Anonymous
04/12/2019 18:11
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
This is what we get by allowing high schoolers to participate. They are eager and vocal and can get carried away.
Allowing? Do you think MCPS should invite community input and then exclude the members of the community who are students?
Surrounding a person for having a different view is not the best way to participate in community input. Man was wrong to talk for a minute because it was not a forum to talk like that, but students were even more wrong to surround him because students didn't like whatever he said.
Some posters indicated that students joined many tables and started arguing. This kind of behavior will simply discourage parent to come and give their input.
Looking at the photo, it doesn't appear that there's an angry mob surrounding him. He's talking to a couple of kids; the rest seem like they're listening or not even paying attention.
I never said angry mob, but there was no reason to have such situations where anyone voicing different opinion get surrounded by students.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 17:59
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
This is what we get by allowing high schoolers to participate. They are eager and vocal and can get carried away.
Allowing? Do you think MCPS should invite community input and then exclude the members of the community who are students?
Surrounding a person for having a different view is not the best way to participate in community input. Man was wrong to talk for a minute because it was not a forum to talk like that, but students were even more wrong to surround him because students didn't like whatever he said.
Some posters indicated that students joined many tables and started arguing. This kind of behavior will simply discourage parent to come and give their input.
Looking at the photo, it doesn't appear that there's an angry mob surrounding him. He's talking to a couple of kids; the rest seem like they're listening or not even paying attention.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 17:25
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
This is what we get by allowing high schoolers to participate. They are eager and vocal and can get carried away.
Allowing? Do you think MCPS should invite community input and then exclude the members of the community who are students?
Surrounding a person for having a different view is not the best way to participate in community input. Man was wrong to talk for a minute because it was not a forum to talk like that, but students were even more wrong to surround him because students didn't like whatever he said.
Some posters indicated that students joined many tables and started arguing. This kind of behavior will simply discourage parent to come and give their input.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 17:21
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
Apparently it was the man described here:
"At the beginning of the event, the facilitator instructed the groups to take 30 minutes to write down the answers to these discussion questions on a large poster.
After the facilitator asked the group if anyone had any questions a man stood up talked about how he also attended the first meeting and there was “nothing substantive” that came out of the meeting. Since the meeting was in a cafeteria, a lot of what the man said was inaudible, but he spoke for about a minute as the crowd shouted back at him to “stop lobbying,” “just write it down,” and others wondered why a moderator wasn’t preventing this."
The problem in this day and age is that we've lost the ability to respectfully disagree. We can have different view points but no need to gang up or criticize people who disagree with you or to call them names.
We've also lost the ability to listen and follow directions. It sounds like the facilitator asked everyone to start small group discussions and write their thoughts on the posters, but then this man decided to lobby for his points of view instead.
That resulted in the man getting surrounded by 20 students?
Since his voice was not audible to reporter and there is nothing in article about what he said, I was asking what did he say exactly in 1 minute that 20 kids surrounded him?
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:46
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
This is what we get by allowing high schoolers to participate. They are eager and vocal and can get carried away.
Allowing? Do you think MCPS should invite community input and then exclude the members of the community who are students?
Perhaps, or the hosts could implement and enforce rules of participation so that the incident doesn't happen again. There are many people who would love to contribute but don't because they are afraid of conflict. The aggressive minority is keeping the majority from expressing their opinions.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:35
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
This is what we get by allowing high schoolers to participate. They are eager and vocal and can get carried away.
Allowing? Do you think MCPS should invite community input and then exclude the members of the community who are students?
They can choose to do that or not to do that. Nothing wrong either way. I don't see this as must-do.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:16
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
Apparently it was the man described here:
"At the beginning of the event, the facilitator instructed the groups to take 30 minutes to write down the answers to these discussion questions on a large poster.
After the facilitator asked the group if anyone had any questions a man stood up talked about how he also attended the first meeting and there was “nothing substantive” that came out of the meeting. Since the meeting was in a cafeteria, a lot of what the man said was inaudible, but he spoke for about a minute as the crowd shouted back at him to “stop lobbying,” “just write it down,” and others wondered why a moderator wasn’t preventing this."
The problem in this day and age is that we've lost the ability to respectfully disagree. We can have different view points but no need to gang up or criticize people who disagree with you or to call them names.
We've also lost the ability to listen and follow directions. It sounds like the facilitator asked everyone to start small group discussions and write their thoughts on the posters, but then this man decided to lobby for his points of view instead.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:14
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:This what happens with liberals conflate advocating with explaining. Such a pity that none of those kids could EXPLAIN a logical buildup to what they were advocating/asking for. DOA.
Why are you assuming that's the case?
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:12
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
This is what we get by allowing high schoolers to participate. They are eager and vocal and can get carried away.
Allowing? Do you think MCPS should invite community input and then exclude the members of the community who are students?
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:11
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:This what happens with liberals conflate advocating with explaining. Such a pity that none of those kids could EXPLAIN a logical buildup to what they were advocating/asking for. DOA.
Are you the man who was surrounded by the high school students?
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:09
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
This what happens with liberals conflate advocating with explaining. Such a pity that none of those kids could EXPLAIN a logical buildup to what they were advocating/asking for. DOA.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:06
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
This is what we get by allowing high schoolers to participate. They are eager and vocal and can get carried away.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:03
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
Apparently it was the man described here:
"At the beginning of the event, the facilitator instructed the groups to take 30 minutes to write down the answers to these discussion questions on a large poster.
After the facilitator asked the group if anyone had any questions a man stood up talked about how he also attended the first meeting and there was “nothing substantive” that came out of the meeting. Since the meeting was in a cafeteria, a lot of what the man said was inaudible, but he spoke for about a minute as the crowd shouted back at him to “stop lobbying,” “just write it down,” and others wondered why a moderator wasn’t preventing this."
The problem in this day and age is that we've lost the ability to respectfully disagree. We can have different view points but no need to gang up or criticize people who disagree with you or to call them names.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 15:42
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Look at the man surrounded by 20 students just because he had a different view. Sorry for saying this, but if you start surrounding parents for having different opinions , it will come like being hostile. May not be intention of students, but it looks that way.
Not "just because he had a different view," presumably. But rather because he had the specific view that he had.
Also, whom are you addressing in your post?
Why don't you share whatever he said it so we can see why 20 students are surrounding a man? I am simply going by details in link here. I was addressing the PP who said teens can argue. Well, 2 kids arguing over some point is different than 20 students surrounding some one.
Apparently it was the man described here:
"At the beginning of the event, the facilitator instructed the groups to take 30 minutes to write down the answers to these discussion questions on a large poster.
After the facilitator asked the group if anyone had any questions a man stood up talked about how he also attended the first meeting and there was “nothing substantive” that came out of the meeting. Since the meeting was in a cafeteria, a lot of what the man said was inaudible, but he spoke for about a minute as the crowd shouted back at him to “stop lobbying,” “just write it down,” and others wondered why a moderator wasn’t preventing this."
Anonymous
04/12/2019 15:38
Subject: New reporting dashboard shows that Einstein HS doing very well in a bunch of metrics.
Anonymous wrote:Not a good look.....
Next you'll start lamenting the disrespectfulness of today's youth.