Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 18:44     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Low test scores can be a problem. Ds has a 3.5 uw gpa (4.2 w)and 1500 SAT and was accepted at Villanova, Lehigh, Bucknell, URochester, etc. His best friend has a 3.7 uw (4.2w) and an 1190 SAT and is a URM. He was rejected from a similar spread of schools, and only accepted at a state school with an 80% acceptance rate and Penn State. It doesn’t seem fair.


Which is why some schools are now moving towards a test-optional policy - if your kid has otherwise excellent stats but doesn't test well, but can interview and write well, they should think about applying to these schools:

https://blog.prepscholar.com/the-complete-guide-to-sat-optional-colleges



I can't let this go. I heard a similar comment from a parent at a Commited Students event recently. Schools are moving towards optional test reporting because it raises their reported avg SAT/ACT scores. The parent also told me that the schools that are test optional often are geared towards kids with disabilities. This should not be assumed.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 17:15     Subject: Re:Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:I think one reason the admissions patterns are so strange is families’ sudden refusal to max out on student loans.

That’s probably done strange, bad things to admissions at a lot of private schools and increased competition for slots at places like William and Mary.



Thanks Betsy D. for making this a huge mess.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 17:15     Subject: Re:Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:I think one reason the admissions patterns are so strange is families’ sudden refusal to max out on student loans.

That’s probably done strange, bad things to admissions at a lot of private schools and increased competition for slots at places like William and Mary.



Probably be a good thing. The U.S. has the highest cost higher education system in the world, yet, among developed countries, we are lower middle of the pack in the percentage of college age people who actually graduate. 45 consecutive years of cost growth far in excess of the cost of inflation is ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 15:27     Subject: Re:Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
I think one reason the admissions patterns are so strange is families’ sudden refusal to max out on student loans.

That’s probably done strange, bad things to admissions at a lot of private schools and increased competition for slots at places like William and Mary.

Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 11:05     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Mine has a 4.0 uw, all honors and AP classes, student government plus other EC clubs, and was terrible at SAT but slightly better at ACT (1190 vs 33).

She’s in at JMU, Penn State, Amherst, Williams, and Boston College.

Was a no at UVA and W&M.


That seems crazy - in at Williams but not W&M?


SLACs love that 4.0 GPA.


Still bit making sense. My DD had 4.0 uw plus 1550 and was wl and rejected at all top 10 SLACs save one.



But all you need is one!


Exactly.

This year my DS (3.6 UW/4.4W and 1570 SAT) applied to 2 "top 10" SLACs (admitted to 1, WL at 1). Also applied to 4 other SLACs ranked between 11 and 22 -- admitted to 1, WL at 2, rejected at 1.

It is rare to run the tables anymore and stats are a small piece of it.

Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 11:05     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:Why are you fighting about whether someone you don't know, said something that wasn't true. You realize you will never find out the answer. Get a better life.


Because some people actually come to this board for real information.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 11:03     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mine has a 4.0 uw, all honors and AP classes, student government plus other EC clubs, and was terrible at SAT but slightly better at ACT (1190 vs 33).

She’s in at JMU, Penn State, Amherst, Williams, and Boston College.

Was a no at UVA and W&M.


That seems crazy - in at Williams but not W&M?


SLACs love that 4.0 GPA.


Still bit making sense. My DD had 4.0 uw plus 1550 and was wl and rejected at all top 10 SLACs save one.


Let me guess.......she got into Wellesley.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 10:52     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mine has a 4.0 uw, all honors and AP classes, student government plus other EC clubs, and was terrible at SAT but slightly better at ACT (1190 vs 33).

She’s in at JMU, Penn State, Amherst, Williams, and Boston College.

Was a no at UVA and W&M.


That seems crazy - in at Williams but not W&M?


SLACs love that 4.0 GPA.


Still bit making sense. My DD had 4.0 uw plus 1550 and was wl and rejected at all top 10 SLACs save one.



But all you need is one!
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 10:26     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
I agree with PP.....never happened.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 09:18     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Why are you fighting about whether someone you don't know, said something that wasn't true. You realize you will never find out the answer. Get a better life.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 08:51     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mine has a 4.0 uw, all honors and AP classes, student government plus other EC clubs, and was terrible at SAT but slightly better at ACT (1190 vs 33).

She’s in at JMU, Penn State, Amherst, Williams, and Boston College.

Was a no at UVA and W&M.


That seems crazy - in at Williams but not W&M?


SLACs love that 4.0 GPA.


Still bit making sense. My DD had 4.0 uw plus 1550 and was wl and rejected at all top 10 SLACs save one.


Should read still not making sense


I'm not sure how someone got into Amherst and Williams, and rejected at UVA and W&M. Really surprised your dc got into those two schools with that SAT, but hey, congrats!


Because it didn't happen.



Check college Confidential. This kind of result is not uncommon. Too many qualified kids, not enough seats. Why is this so difficult to understand?


Yes, it's completely uncommon, first, for a kid to get into both Amherst and Williams. And, then to get into all those other schools too and be flat out rejected at W&M and UVA? It didn't happen. PP says SLACs love that 4.0 - actually it's W&M/UVA which place greater value on the 4.0 than the ACT score (which is a good score but not spectacular).

Now if the PP were a better troll, they would've said their kid had a 35 or 36 ACT - that would actually be more believable as far as getting into Amherst/Williams since schools with small classes tend to be more likely to let in a kid with exceptional SAT/ACT scores because of the large effect it has on their overall standardized testing score average.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 08:23     Subject: Re:Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
My kid was rejected from Tampa and admitted to Purdue. It happens. Tampa was a super safety and Purdue was a reach.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 07:57     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mine has a 4.0 uw, all honors and AP classes, student government plus other EC clubs, and was terrible at SAT but slightly better at ACT (1190 vs 33).

She’s in at JMU, Penn State, Amherst, Williams, and Boston College.

Was a no at UVA and W&M.


That seems crazy - in at Williams but not W&M?


SLACs love that 4.0 GPA.


Still bit making sense. My DD had 4.0 uw plus 1550 and was wl and rejected at all top 10 SLACs save one.


Should read still not making sense


I'm not sure how someone got into Amherst and Williams, and rejected at UVA and W&M. Really surprised your dc got into those two schools with that SAT, but hey, congrats!


Because it didn't happen.



Check college Confidential. This kind of result is not uncommon. Too many qualified kids, not enough seats. Why is this so difficult to understand?
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 06:01     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What could be a nice and informative thread takes a weird turn, as always happens on DCUM. Why does anyone care what you did in the 90s? Tell me one thing that dominated in the 90s that does today? Also true with college admissions, things change, and just not what this thread started out as, but also so true of DCUM where so many people have a hard time understanding that . . . times have changed. And the person who said their kid was denied at W&M but admitted to Williams and Amherst, I doubt that is true and never understand why people lie about things on this anonymous blog. But if it is true, you should be high-fiving all around assuming you can afford it, but then again, if you can't Williams and Amherst with their financial aid policies would probably be cheaper so not only are they better schools (not for all kids but for most) but cheaper, how is that not a major win? Anyway be kind and most of all, be honest.


Holy ****! What a F&&&A$$ you are! What a pontification to others! And what did you contribute to the thread in the direction OP was seeking? Nothing, other than insulting others (see bold and underline segments above). You even insulted the kid who didn't even post by writing "not for all kids but most", implying that Williams and Amherst may not be good for that kid (i.e. may be he isn't good enough for those schools). You insulted the poster saying she lied about her kid getting admission at Williams and Amherst. What proof do you have she is lying? You even wrote, "But if it is true". And you end with "Anyway be kind and most of all, be honest". Again implying the PP wasn't honest! Does your medicine of "be kind" applies only to others? Were you kind in what you posted? Is this how you make your life happy?


You seem a bit crazy and your diction is atrocious.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 17:23     Subject: Now that decisions are out.....where are the non-perfect kids getting accepted
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mine has a 4.0 uw, all honors and AP classes, student government plus other EC clubs, and was terrible at SAT but slightly better at ACT (1190 vs 33).

She’s in at JMU, Penn State, Amherst, Williams, and Boston College.

Was a no at UVA and W&M.


That seems crazy - in at Williams but not W&M?


SLACs love that 4.0 GPA.


Still bit making sense. My DD had 4.0 uw plus 1550 and was wl and rejected at all top 10 SLACs save one.


Should read still not making sense


I'm not sure how someone got into Amherst and Williams, and rejected at UVA and W&M. Really surprised your dc got into those two schools with that SAT, but hey, congrats!


Because it didn't happen.