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Anonymous wrote:Yay! looking forward to future years of spring breaks longer than 3 days! our kids need the rest.

Every other school district in Maryland had a full Spring Break. You just live in an incompetent district.

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Do people truly believe MCPS had their hands tied on a shortened Spring Break? They CHOSE it. Political game. And you are dumb enough to believe it.

Yeah whatever tinfoil hat lady. MCPS has a larger Jewish population than most of Maryland. Hogan’s schedule was overwhelmingly vetoed by our elected representatives because it’s unpopular. Move on.

Howard County closes for Jewish holidays, Eid, and Lunar New Year, and have a full Spring Break.

Hoco has a 180 school year. Moco has 182. It used to have 184.

Well whose problem is that? Not Hogan

Hogan cut MoCo education funding relative to other parts of state. But sure he has nothing todo with anything related to education.

Do you think that is “maybe” because MCPS overbuilds, but overspends. Then demands more $$. We are THE wealthiest county in the state. We build and tax like crazy. MC is on the hold for 70% of all funding. The state only 23%. Do you know how little MC gives to its own county public schools. Why should the state who only covers 33% have to make up the difference on a state who can’t manage its money. Ike is a f’ing idiot. Waste millions and then cuts $25 million from MCPS. But he is a democrat and black. So let’s blame Hogan

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wtop.com/montgomery-county/2018/02/montgomery-council-cuts-53-million/amp/

Anonymous wrote:I am curious. Why do teachers need planning days? Aren’t they supposed to grade and plan before/during/after school. Most high school teachers teach 4-5 max periods in an 8 period day. The school day is only 6.25-6.75 hours long. So that gives you another 1-2 hours on top of your free periods before you even hit a full 8 hour workday.

I can’t remember ever working an 8 hours in one day. Most salaried employees work 8.5-10 hours.

I guess I just don’t see why they should have days off for planning. They literally have every holiday and break and summer off. Plenty of off days to plan if you can’t manage your time weekly. Many people catch up at home and on weekends too.

Speaking as an elementary school teacher, most planning days are (unless they're taken up by professional development/ all staff meetings, give you a chance to actually plan with other professionals (ELL teachers, special education teachers, the rest of the teaching team, literacy coaches, etc.) that is usually incredibly challenging to find during the school day. Yes, you may have 20 minutes from 9:40-10:00 to work on your planning but that's no guarantee that the person who you need to talk to, coordinate with, get ideas from actually has time during that chunk of the day to plan with you. Planning days give you a better shot at the sort of collaboration that is so helpful in actually improving curriculum and instruction.

Regarding the rest of your comment, unless you've lived it its pretty hard to conceptualize the ways in which time disappears during the school day. You may theoretically have time to plan during the day, but in my experience its very easy for IEP meetings, staff meetings, behavior challenges, being pulled to sub, tutoring students, meeting with parents, calling parents, paperwork, and countless other crises to make your 40 minutes (if that) that you theoretically receive in practice be pretty useless in terms of actually making progress on long-term planning.

Also, in a way that is very different from a lot of other professional jobs where you have time in between meetings/presentations to answer emails, practice, do research, drink coffee, discuss issues with coworkers, etc. so much of the school day is spent actively working with children (and pretty much unable to multi-task effectively beyond that) that some time in the building without students to regroup and plan for the future is frankly, essential.

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Anonymous wrote:Yay! looking forward to future years of spring breaks longer than 3 days! our kids need the rest.

Every other school district in Maryland had a full Spring Break. You just live in an incompetent district.

THIS

Do people truly believe MCPS had their hands tied on a shortened Spring Break? They CHOSE it. Political game. And you are dumb enough to believe it.

Yeah whatever tinfoil hat lady. MCPS has a larger Jewish population than most of Maryland. Hogan’s schedule was overwhelmingly vetoed by our elected representatives because it’s unpopular. Move on.

Nope.

Pikesville grad

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Anonymous wrote:Yay! looking forward to future years of spring breaks longer than 3 days! our kids need the rest.

Every other school district in Maryland had a full Spring Break. You just live in an incompetent district.

THIS

Do people truly believe MCPS had their hands tied on a shortened Spring Break? They CHOSE it. Political game. And you are dumb enough to believe it.

But we needed all the various ethnic holidays teacher days and half days. It was spectacular.

Come on peeps, you’re trying to blame Hogan for idiotic MCPS?!? Open your eyes.

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Anonymous wrote:Yay! looking forward to future years of spring breaks longer than 3 days! our kids need the rest.

Every other school district in Maryland had a full Spring Break. You just live in an incompetent district.

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Do people truly believe MCPS had their hands tied on a shortened Spring Break? They CHOSE it. Political game. And you are dumb enough to believe it.

Yeah whatever tinfoil hat lady. MCPS has a larger Jewish population than most of Maryland. Hogan’s schedule was overwhelmingly vetoed by our elected representatives because it’s unpopular. Move on.

Howard County closes for Jewish holidays, Eid, and Lunar New Year, and have a full Spring Break.

Hoco has a 180 school year. Moco has 182. It used to have 184.

Well whose problem is that? Not Hogan

Hogan cut MoCo education funding relative to other parts of state. But sure he has nothing todo with anything related to education.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yay! looking forward to future years of spring breaks longer than 3 days! our kids need the rest.

Every other school district in Maryland had a full Spring Break. You just live in an incompetent district.

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Do people truly believe MCPS had their hands tied on a shortened Spring Break? They CHOSE it. Political game. And you are dumb enough to believe it.

Yeah whatever tinfoil hat lady. MCPS has a larger Jewish population than most of Maryland. Hogan’s schedule was overwhelmingly vetoed by our elected representatives because it’s unpopular. Move on.

Howard County closes for Jewish holidays, Eid, and Lunar New Year, and have a full Spring Break.

Hoco has a 180 school year. Moco has 182. It used to have 184.

Well whose problem is that? Not Hogan

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yay! looking forward to future years of spring breaks longer than 3 days! our kids need the rest.

Every other school district in Maryland had a full Spring Break. You just live in an incompetent district.

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Do people truly believe MCPS had their hands tied on a shortened Spring Break? They CHOSE it. Political game. And you are dumb enough to believe it.

Yeah whatever tinfoil hat lady. MCPS has a larger Jewish population than most of Maryland. Hogan’s schedule was overwhelmingly vetoed by our elected representatives because it’s unpopular. Move on.

Howard County closes for Jewish holidays, Eid, and Lunar New Year, and have a full Spring Break.

Hoco has a 180 school year. Moco has 182. It used to have 184.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yay! looking forward to future years of spring breaks longer than 3 days! our kids need the rest.

Every other school district in Maryland had a full Spring Break. You just live in an incompetent district.

THIS

Do people truly believe MCPS had their hands tied on a shortened Spring Break? They CHOSE it. Political game. And you are dumb enough to believe it.

Yeah whatever tinfoil hat lady. MCPS has a larger Jewish population than most of Maryland. Hogan’s schedule was overwhelmingly vetoed by our elected representatives because it’s unpopular. Move on.

Howard County closes for Jewish holidays, Eid, and Lunar New Year, and have a full Spring Break.

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Anonymous wrote:The veto has been overturned! Hooray!

66-70% of the state in every single poll posted in the past year wanted school to start after Labor Day. 68% of all MCPS families wanted after Labor Day. This was a win for one school district that hasn't got a clue how to make a schedule or ask for a state waiver to go past June 15th. They have always had a power issue. The majority of families do not agree with you or MCPS.

It will be okay. The state will just use the revenue lost in small business taxes from tourist areas that week and not increase funding for MCPS. Just wait and see...

Hogan is going to torch their funding to MCPS. The board are a bunch of idiots. It is embarrassing how much money they waste fighting useless things and how little time they make for better the system.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Yay! looking forward to future years of spring breaks longer than 3 days! our kids need the rest.

Every other school district in Maryland had a full Spring Break. You just live in an incompetent district.

THIS

Do people truly believe MCPS had their hands tied on a shortened Spring Break? They CHOSE it. Political game. And you are dumb enough to believe it.

Yeah whatever tinfoil hat lady. MCPS has a larger Jewish population than most of Maryland. Hogan’s schedule was overwhelmingly vetoed by our elected representatives because it’s unpopular. Move on.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The veto has been overturned! Hooray!

66-70% of the state in every single poll posted in the past year wanted school to start after Labor Day. 68% of all MCPS families wanted after Labor Day. This was a win for one school district that hasn't got a clue how to make a schedule or ask for a state waiver to go past June 15th. They have always had a power issue. The majority of families do not agree with you or MCPS.

It will be okay. The state will just use the revenue lost in small business taxes from tourist areas that week and not increase funding for MCPS. Just wait and see...

Hogan is going to torch their funding to MCPS. The board are a bunch of idiots. It is embarrassing how much money they waste fighting useless things and how little time they make for better the system.

How very Presidential of him. He had already cut funding to MoCo anyway but that’s because he’s a Republican and he likes to appease his rural and eastern shore voters and that’s how we ended up with stupid rule about Labor Day in the first place. So glad our schedule will return to sanity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yay! looking forward to future years of spring breaks longer than 3 days! our kids need the rest.

Every other school district in Maryland had a full Spring Break. You just live in an incompetent district.

THIS

Do people truly believe MCPS had their hands tied on a shortened Spring Break? They CHOSE it. Political game. And you are dumb enough to believe it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The veto has been overturned! Hooray!

66-70% of the state in every single poll posted in the past year wanted school to start after Labor Day. 68% of all MCPS families wanted after Labor Day. This was a win for one school district that hasn't got a clue how to make a schedule or ask for a state waiver to go past June 15th. They have always had a power issue. The majority of families do not agree with you or MCPS.

It will be okay. The state will just use the revenue lost in small business taxes from tourist areas that week and not increase funding for MCPS. Just wait and see...

Hogan is going to torch their funding to MCPS. The board are a bunch of idiots. It is embarrassing how much money they waste fighting useless things and how little time they make for better the system.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, there are so many things wrong with your post, I don't even know where to begin. Do you have any evidence that the post-Labor day start time is improving the Maryland economy? My impression is that it's simply lining the pockets of a tiny set of businesses who are reliable Hogan donors. Why are those businesses so much more important than other Maryland businesses that the school calendar is designed around them? How do you balance any potential benefit to the Maryland economy (for which there is no evidence that I've seen) against the lack of instructional time high school students get relative to their peers across the country who start school in August, yet take the same AP exams in May (and roughly 75% of high school students in MoCo do take at least 1 AP exam?) Why don't you provide some actual proof that the schedule constraints that Hogan places that you're so passionate about are actually beneficial?

they are beneficial. it forces teachers to maximize instructional time instead of having kids do busy work and watch videos. oh wait, that still happens. I just want my summer. extend the year into June and offer ap prep classes to high schoolers in August, but dont penalize everyone else

We aren’t going to have two segments of the school system on different schedules. And I’m an elementary school parent and I’m happy to have local control over the school schedule again so we don’t have this hideous Hogan induced 3 day spring break again. And when my kids get older they won’t be at a disadvantage by having less instructional time than kids in other states taking AP exams who started in August. This is a victory for good public policy. Ocean City can run a groupon if they’re lacking in tourists.

BY MAY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF DAYS ATTENDED WHETHER THEY START BEFORE LABOR DAY WITH TONS OF DAYS OFF OR AFTER LABOR DAY WITH MORE 5 DAY WEEKS.

THERE IS ZERO DIFFERENCE TO AP’s.

The top districts scoring the highest AP scores and standardized test scores, are all northeast/mid Atlantic. Almost all which start after Labor Day. Heck, most NE top boarding schools start the week after Labor Day. They are sure aren’t failing the AP’s. Florida starts in early August and they are idiots down there.

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this is how it is supposed to work. with almost 70% of marylanders in favor of post labor day start, this clearly did not happen. now that each district can decide what to do, hopefully they will listen to the families that have kids in school. most counties will probably do a decent job. mcps wont.

Yes, now each district can decide what to do. So if you want MCPS to start after Labor Day, you should tell the Montgomery County Board of Education. That's the beauty of local control. MCPS can start when MCPS decides, and WCPS can start when WCPS decides.

MCPS wanted to start 2 weeks before Labor Day right before the Hogan law. That is exactly what it will go back to. They don’t care what the public wants