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As a PBES parent. I'm aware of how my DC and several of their friends score on their MAPs and at least in their circle of friends, high 90s is fairly common.

Well unfortunately this confirms the previous posts that Piney Branch is just not as high as other CES schools. High 90s isn't very high. A 98% is at the lower end of the grade in some schools. CES kids should be 99% across the board on MAP and they are at some other schools.

What you need to compare is the scores not the percentile because its normed across the country so even 99% in and of itself is not a high enough indicator. However, if the kids that you know at PBES are just in the high 90s you should know that they would not get into the CES programs in some other schools.

I believe you, and also believe MCPS is moving away from this model. The PBES model is the future of the CES program.

Sure, it's likely the top 25% of students at PBES isn't comparable to the top 2%-3% at a regional center, it's more like the top 15% PBES.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
As a PBES parent. I'm aware of how my DC and several of their friends score on their MAPs and at least in their circle of friends, high 90s is fairly common.


Well unfortunately this confirms the previous posts that Piney Branch is just not as high as other CES schools. High 90s isn't very high. A 98% is at the lower end of the grade in some schools. CES kids should be 99% across the board on MAP and they are at some other schools.

What you need to compare is the scores not the percentile because its normed across the country so even 99% in and of itself is not a high enough indicator. However, if the kids that you know at PBES are just in the high 90s you should know that they would not get into the CES programs in some other schools.

I believe you, and also believe MCPS is moving away from this model. The PBES model is the future of the CES program.

So now vanity sizing is en vogue for gifted programs. What is the point of a CES program if it isn't very rigorous and isn't made up of the kids at the very top?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

As a PBES parent. I'm aware of how my DC and several of their friends score on their MAPs and at least in their circle of friends, high 90s is fairly common.

Well unfortunately this confirms the previous posts that Piney Branch is just not as high as other CES schools. High 90s isn't very high. A 98% is at the lower end of the grade in some schools. CES kids should be 99% across the board on MAP and they are at some other schools.

What you need to compare is the scores not the percentile because its normed across the country so even 99% in and of itself is not a high enough indicator. However, if the kids that you know at PBES are just in the high 90s you should know that they would not get into the CES programs in some other schools.

I believe you, and also believe MCPS is moving away from this model. The PBES model is the future of the CES program.

Anonymous wrote:
As a PBES parent. I'm aware of how my DC and several of their friends score on their MAPs and at least in their circle of friends, high 90s is fairly common.


Well unfortunately this confirms the previous posts that Piney Branch is just not as high as other CES schools. High 90s isn't very high. A 98% is at the lower end of the grade in some schools. CES kids should be 99% across the board on MAP and they are at some other schools.

What you need to compare is the scores not the percentile because its normed across the country so even 99% in and of itself is not a high enough indicator. However, if the kids that you know at PBES are just in the high 90s you should know that they would not get into the CES programs in some other schools.

I believe you, and also believe MCPS is moving away from this model. The PBES model is the future of the CES program.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The 4th grade CES curriculum is extremely challenging at PBES. The 5th grade teacher this year seems less set on pushing the CES curriculum and appears to pick and choose what he teaches in contrast to last year where the students were challenged to a very high level. Our 5th grader has much less classwork and homework than last year - by leaps and bounds....He's happy, but it is hard to get over the idea that 5th should be more challenging than 4th....

The CES programs really vary across the county. They have the flexibility to teach up to but also below what is in the CES curriculum based on the capabilities of the class. Some CES programs have very high flyers and other CES programs are filled with kids who are smart but would never make the cut in the other programs. The MAP scores at PBES are not very good in comparison to other CES programs so going slower in 5th grade here is good practice.

How can you possibly know this? MAP scores aren't reported.

!!!!!! You can't know this, overzealous parent. Please.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

As a PBES parent. I'm aware of how my DC and several of their friends score on their MAPs and at least in their circle of friends, high 90s is fairly common.

Well unfortunately this confirms the previous posts that Piney Branch is just not as high as other CES schools. High 90s isn't very high. A 98% is at the lower end of the grade in some schools. CES kids should be 99% across the board on MAP and they are at some other schools.

What you need to compare is the scores not the percentile because its normed across the country so even 99% in and of itself is not a high enough indicator. However, if the kids that you know at PBES are just in the high 90s you should know that they would not get into the CES programs in some other schools.

I didn't want to be specific, but if you insist on being a jackass, I can spell it out. DC typically scores 10 points over the 99% and they're not even the highest of their friends.

Anonymous wrote:

As a PBES parent. I'm aware of how my DC and several of their friends score on their MAPs and at least in their circle of friends, high 90s is fairly common.

Well unfortunately this confirms the previous posts that Piney Branch is just not as high as other CES schools. High 90s isn't very high. A 98% is at the lower end of the grade in some schools. CES kids should be 99% across the board on MAP and they are at some other schools.

What you need to compare is the scores not the percentile because its normed across the country so even 99% in and of itself is not a high enough indicator. However, if the kids that you know at PBES are just in the high 90s you should know that they would not get into the CES programs in some other schools.

Anonymous wrote:

As a PBES parent. I'm aware of how my DC and several of their friends score on their MAPs and at least in their circle of friends, high 90s is fairly common.

Well unfortunately this confirms the previous posts that Piney Branch is just not as high as other CES schools. High 90s isn't very high. A 98% is at the lower end of the grade in some schools. CES kids should be 99% across the board on MAP and they are at some other schools.

What you need to compare is the scores not the percentile because its normed across the country so even 99% in and of itself is not a high enough indicator. However, if the kids that you know at PBES are just in the high 90s you should know that they would not get into the CES programs in some other schools.

Anonymous wrote:Parents with kids in the PBES CES program, DC's experience has been fantastic both years.


Parents without kids at PBES, you really do not have a stake in this. So stop conjecturing about what is wrong with PBES and how it should be fixed.

As a PBES parent. I'm aware of how my DC and several of their friends score on their MAPs and at least in their circle of friends, high 90s is fairly common.