Anonymous wrote:Adnan killed her and was going to flee the country. They found passport photos in his car. The family also sent a younger child back to Pakistan for education after he was bullied here.

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Anonymous wrote:I have always thought that Adnan was innocent. It's surprises me when people who have listened to Serial and watch this show disagree. After watching last night's show, March 24th, I find it really, really hard to believe that he's guilty. Would love to hear from someone who disagrees, and why?

Who do you think did it, and how did Jay know everything?

I used to think he was innocent after listening to Serial. Now I'm leaning towards guilty, but not 100%. I think the idea cited earlier in this thread - that he was going to pay Jay to do it and it got messed up, so he did it or they did it together - is very likely. He can't say that now, because he's still holding out hope he will be found innocent, but is furious that Jay went free. There are just too many inconsistencies in Adnan's story (that he and Jay didn't know each other well when they obviously did, asking Hae for a ride, whether he was actually at track / the mosque that day, the cell records) for him to have not been involved. And Jay knew too much - but had no motive without Adnan.

The only other possibility to me seems like Don, her current boyfriend - but he had no motive.

I don't even see how Adnan had much of a motive. I'm leaning towards either a larger conspiracy over something else with Adnan, Jay, Stephanie, Jen, etc. all having some role, Don or a stranger.

I used to think he didn't have a motive but reddit has a lot of her diary where she talks about how he was so freaked out about the breakup "people break up, you'll survive, stop being possessive etc. By all accounts he was a pretty gentle and well liked guy so it does seem out of character... that's why this is so puzzling. I think if he wasn't involved, it'd be surprising.

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Anonymous wrote:I have always thought that Adnan was innocent. It's surprises me when people who have listened to Serial and watch this show disagree. After watching last night's show, March 24th, I find it really, really hard to believe that he's guilty. Would love to hear from someone who disagrees, and why?

Who do you think did it, and how did Jay know everything?

I used to think he was innocent after listening to Serial. Now I'm leaning towards guilty, but not 100%. I think the idea cited earlier in this thread - that he was going to pay Jay to do it and it got messed up, so he did it or they did it together - is very likely. He can't say that now, because he's still holding out hope he will be found innocent, but is furious that Jay went free. There are just too many inconsistencies in Adnan's story (that he and Jay didn't know each other well when they obviously did, asking Hae for a ride, whether he was actually at track / the mosque that day, the cell records) for him to have not been involved. And Jay knew too much - but had no motive without Adnan.

The only other possibility to me seems like Don, her current boyfriend - but he had no motive.

I don't even see how Adnan had much of a motive. I'm leaning towards either a larger conspiracy over something else with Adnan, Jay, Stephanie, Jen, etc. all having some role, Don or a stranger.

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Anonymous wrote:I have always thought that Adnan was innocent. It's surprises me when people who have listened to Serial and watch this show disagree. After watching last night's show, March 24th, I find it really, really hard to believe that he's guilty. Would love to hear from someone who disagrees, and why?

Who do you think did it, and how did Jay know everything?

I used to think he was innocent after listening to Serial. Now I'm leaning towards guilty, but not 100%. I think the idea cited earlier in this thread - that he was going to pay Jay to do it and it got messed up, so he did it or they did it together - is very likely. He can't say that now, because he's still holding out hope he will be found innocent, but is furious that Jay went free. There are just too many inconsistencies in Adnan's story (that he and Jay didn't know each other well when they obviously did, asking Hae for a ride, whether he was actually at track / the mosque that day, the cell records) for him to have not been involved. And Jay knew too much - but had no motive without Adnan.

The only other possibility to me seems like Don, her current boyfriend - but he had no motive.

Anonymous wrote:I have always thought that Adnan was innocent. It's surprises me when people who have listened to Serial and watch this show disagree. After watching last night's show, March 24th, I find it really, really hard to believe that he's guilty. Would love to hear from someone who disagrees, and why?

Anonymous wrote:I have always thought that Adnan was innocent. It's surprises me when people who have listened to Serial and watch this show disagree. After watching last night's show, March 24th, I find it really, really hard to believe that he's guilty. Would love to hear from someone who disagrees, and why?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so is this real name not Kathy school schedule a new reveal? I didn't recall that from any of the podcasts. That's the first time I actually thought he might be innocent after seeing that.

It is a new reveal. It wasn't in any of the podcasts.

When did the snow start that made school shut down the next 2 (?) days? Was that overnight or the next morning? I wonder about all of them driving around so late when huge inclement weather was approaching.

Anonymous wrote:Wait so is this real name not Kathy school schedule a new reveal? I didn't recall that from any of the podcasts. That's the first time I actually thought he might be innocent after seeing that.

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Anonymous wrote:This HBO show is based off of Rabias book so it has to be biased right?

Of course... Serial was balanced I would say. Rabia wanted her own spin so she helped launch Undisclosed. It was great to hear another perspective but clearly she's the most biased of the three lawyers on the project.

I'm not sure if Adnan did it but if he's in jail I think Jay also needs to be in jail.

I think that the HBO show, if anything, adds much more context to Hae herself. I found that Serial focused on the crime itself more than the people caught up in it. I think that Hae has largely been forgotten due to the hullabaloo about the case developments. I think HBO did a good job of bringing her to the forefront.

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Anonymous wrote:I've listed to various podcasts on the case, read articles, and now seen this documentary and my belief still hasn't changed: Jay did it. He did it either on his own or with someone else, but he did it.

I believe he did it because Hae had some dirt on him (perhaps saw him cheating) and was going to tell his girlfriend Stephanie. His girlfriend was waaaaay out of his league (good MC to UMC family vs. his LC upbringing) and he didn't want to lose her.

If Hae had dirt, I'm pretty sure it would've been in the diary. I don't buy your theory...

FYI Hae had a diary on a floppy disk that was found in her car and never investigated. We don't know what was on that and it's missing. She started writing her more private information on that after her brother read her paper diary.

source?

Website: https://lawprofessors.typepad.com/evidenceprof/2015/07/acommenteronyesterdays-postadds-additional-context-to-myprior-postabout-hae-min-lees-computer-in-that-prior-post-my-tenuous.html

Relevant comment: Jane: I really don’t want to post portions of Hae’s diary. We have the comment about the entry from the Serial website and our discussion on Undisclosed about Hae putting diary entries on her computer/floppy disk so that her brother wouldn’t see them. I will leave it at that.

Interesting.