Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:23
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP: this is just America all over. People with two-earner household incomes over $200,000 think "we don't drive limousines and swim in champagne and party like rappers so we aren't rich." Meanwhile, they're in the top quintile of income in the U.S. I mean, just read this board: there's a slang term here for "upper middle class" people because of the way Americans define themselves.
It's not America all over. It's America here. And I keep pointing it out because it's so crazy to me, coming from another region.
Not top quintile. If not 1%, then top 5%.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:22
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:PP: this is just America all over. People with two-earner household incomes over $200,000 think "we don't drive limousines and swim in champagne and party like rappers so we aren't rich." Meanwhile, they're in the top quintile of income in the U.S. I mean, just read this board: there's a slang term here for "upper middle class" people because of the way Americans define themselves.
It's not America all over. It's America here. And I keep pointing it out because it's so crazy to me, coming from another region.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:21
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:This fight over what constitutes UMC and rich is not relevant to the point of this thread.
A PP made a statement that the Lafayette was "a palace" because the rich families (all in their 2.5M houses) control the PTA, which apparently controls DCPS facilities management. None of that is true.
No one is claiming that Lafayette kids are poor kids. It is an UMC neighborhood.
What it is not is a neighborhood full of 2.5 Million houses.
And the state of the Lafayette facilities are great after a long wait and extensive renovation that is on par with the renovations of schools happening all over the city.
That is all. Go over the money forum to debate what is UMC and what is rich.
I am not a Lafayette parent or neighbor, but this finger pointing started by an inflammatory post is ridiculous.
This is funny. You do realize that most of us don't make much of a distinction? Once it's over a million, it's so far out of bounds for the vast majority of DC that you're splitting hairs.
The grounds are amazing. Do you really think there are no advantages conferred on a school WOTP which are not received by the poorer schools? And do you really think none of those advantages have anything to do with the parents at said school, whatever mechanism is used?
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:19
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This fight over what constitutes UMC and rich is not relevant to the point of this thread.
A PP made a statement that the Lafayette was "a palace" because the rich families (all in their 2.5M houses) control the PTA, which apparently controls DCPS facilities management. None of that is true.
No one is claiming that Lafayette kids are poor kids. It is an UMC neighborhood.
What it is not is a neighborhood full of 2.5 Million houses.
And the state of the Lafayette facilities are great after a long wait and extensive renovation that is on par with the renovations of schools happening all over the city.
That is all. Go over the money forum to debate what is UMC and what is rich.
I am not a Lafayette parent or neighbor, but this finger pointing started by an inflammatory post is ridiculous.
If you want to see a neighborhood of 2.5 million dollar homes, you'll need to head west to Mann territory.
Or Oyster or Eaton ES boundary areas.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:18
Subject: Re:How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:Brookland MS has a terrific playground. Hands down the best of the city.
Sorry, no it isn't. We are five blocks from there. It's great; Lafayette is better. Have you been? There are trees.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:18
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is a list of current DCPS modernization:
Bancroft Elementary
Banneker High School
Bruce-Monroe ES at Park View
C.W. Harris Elementary School
Capitol Hill Montessori @ Logan
Coolidge High School
Eaton Elementary School
Eliot-Hine Middle School
Garrison Elementary School
Houston Elementary School
Hyde-Addison Elementary School
Jefferson Academy
Kimball Elementary School
Lawrence E. Boone Elementary (Formerly Orr)
MacFarland Dual Language Middle School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Recently Completed Projects
Shepherd Elementary
Thaddeus Stevens School
West Education Campus
Is this list supposed to reflect full modernization? If so, then Shepherd should not be on the list, since to date it has only received a partial renovation.
Not sure what this list is. Eaton is slated for reno but hasn’t started. Murch is done. What is this list?
It's the group currently being renovated. So that can be in the planning phases etc.
Here's a list of the completed ones. Only 3 of the 35 are in ward 3.
https://dgs.dc.gov/node/843682
As far as I can tell, Murch is done. Any other updates needed for this list?
Right. Hence it's a list of COMPLETED schools.
Is the list above - in this thread - completed or “currently being renovated.” Because Eaton is in planning but Murch is done. The list found
at the url above is supposedly those schools that have been renovated but a Murch isn’t on it. So which list is which? Losing credibility fast here.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:17
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:This fight over what constitutes UMC and rich is not relevant to the point of this thread.
A PP made a statement that the Lafayette was "a palace" because the rich families (all in their 2.5M houses) control the PTA, which apparently controls DCPS facilities management. None of that is true.
No one is claiming that Lafayette kids are poor kids. It is an UMC neighborhood.
What it is not is a neighborhood full of 2.5 Million houses.
And the state of the Lafayette facilities are great after a long wait and extensive renovation that is on par with the renovations of schools happening all over the city.
That is all. Go over the money forum to debate what is UMC and what is rich.
I am not a Lafayette parent or neighbor, but this finger pointing started by an inflammatory post is ridiculous.
If you want to see a neighborhood of 2.5 million dollar homes, you'll need to head west to Mann territory.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:16
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
This fight over what constitutes UMC and rich is not relevant to the point of this thread.
A PP made a statement that the Lafayette was "a palace" because the rich families (all in their 2.5M houses) control the PTA, which apparently controls DCPS facilities management. None of that is true.
No one is claiming that Lafayette kids are poor kids. It is an UMC neighborhood.
What it is not is a neighborhood full of 2.5 Million houses.
And the state of the Lafayette facilities are great after a long wait and extensive renovation that is on par with the renovations of schools happening all over the city.
That is all. Go over the money forum to debate what is UMC and what is rich.
I am not a Lafayette parent or neighbor, but this finger pointing started by an inflammatory post is ridiculous.
A PP made a statement that the Lafayette was "a palace" because the rich families (all in their 2.5M houses) control the PTA, which apparently controls DCPS facilities management. None of that is true.
No one is claiming that Lafayette kids are poor kids. It is an UMC neighborhood.
What it is not is a neighborhood full of 2.5 Million houses.
And the state of the Lafayette facilities are great after a long wait and extensive renovation that is on par with the renovations of schools happening all over the city.
That is all. Go over the money forum to debate what is UMC and what is rich.
I am not a Lafayette parent or neighbor, but this finger pointing started by an inflammatory post is ridiculous.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:12
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is a list of current DCPS modernization:
Bancroft Elementary
Banneker High School
Bruce-Monroe ES at Park View
C.W. Harris Elementary School
Capitol Hill Montessori @ Logan
Coolidge High School
Eaton Elementary School
Eliot-Hine Middle School
Garrison Elementary School
Houston Elementary School
Hyde-Addison Elementary School
Jefferson Academy
Kimball Elementary School
Lawrence E. Boone Elementary (Formerly Orr)
MacFarland Dual Language Middle School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Recently Completed Projects
Shepherd Elementary
Thaddeus Stevens School
West Education Campus
Is this list supposed to reflect full modernization? If so, then Shepherd should not be on the list, since to date it has only received a partial renovation.
Not sure what this list is. Eaton is slated for reno but hasn’t started. Murch is done. What is this list?
It's the group currently being renovated. So that can be in the planning phases etc.
Here's a list of the completed ones. Only 3 of the 35 are in ward 3.
https://dgs.dc.gov/node/843682
As far as I can tell, Murch is done. Any other updates needed for this list?
Right. Hence it's a list of COMPLETED schools.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:12
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:PP: this is just America all over. People with two-earner household incomes over $200,000 think "we don't drive limousines and swim in champagne and party like rappers so we aren't rich." Meanwhile, they're in the top quintile of income in the U.S. I mean, just read this board: there's a slang term here for "upper middle class" people because of the way Americans define themselves.
I agree with this but it’s also true that this fact is not related to whether and in what order the DCPS facility was renovated, as was already discussed upthread.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:11
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is a list of current DCPS modernization:
Bancroft Elementary
Banneker High School
Bruce-Monroe ES at Park View
C.W. Harris Elementary School
Capitol Hill Montessori @ Logan
Coolidge High School
Eaton Elementary School
Eliot-Hine Middle School
Garrison Elementary School
Houston Elementary School
Hyde-Addison Elementary School
Jefferson Academy
Kimball Elementary School
Lawrence E. Boone Elementary (Formerly Orr)
MacFarland Dual Language Middle School
Maury Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Recently Completed Projects
Shepherd Elementary
Thaddeus Stevens School
West Education Campus
Is this list supposed to reflect full modernization? If so, then Shepherd should not be on the list, since to date it has only received a partial renovation.
Not sure what this list is. Eaton is slated for reno but hasn’t started. Murch is done. What is this list?
It's the group currently being renovated. So that can be in the planning phases etc.
Here's a list of the completed ones. Only 3 of the 35 are in ward 3.
https://dgs.dc.gov/node/843682
As far as I can tell, Murch is done. Any other updates needed for this list?
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:08
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
PP: this is just America all over. People with two-earner household incomes over $200,000 think "we don't drive limousines and swim in champagne and party like rappers so we aren't rich." Meanwhile, they're in the top quintile of income in the U.S. I mean, just read this board: there's a slang term here for "upper middle class" people because of the way Americans define themselves.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 14:06
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Also- the Lafayette school playground is on par with other renovated DCPS playgrounds. The EOTP poster is likely thinking of the adjoining DCPR playground, which is not part of the elementary school.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 13:55
Subject: Re:How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP you’re understanding of inequality is lacking. The inequality is not because of PTA funding. Sure PTA funding helps with some more resources but you take PTA fundraising out of the picture and you still would get inequality.
Really?! Because I don’t hear about Janet parents doing mold and rat abatement. There is a funding problem!
Mold and rats are problems all over DC.
OK I'm sorry, have you been to Lafayette campus? It's a palace with a massive park. It's got a digital sign. I went there and gasped (from EOTP, clearly). Not sure if it's the PTA, but please, understand what you have is NOT typical. Also understand that YES the kids who attend those schools are RICH. Just be ok with being RICH people, when your house is worth 2.5 million (oh, right, you're just upper middle class...get a grip on reality).
I was a Lafayette parent, currently Deal and Wilson. Sorry but I am not rich and many other families I know in the neighborhood are not rich. I spend a crazy percentage of my take home pay on the mortgage on my crappy house, vacation in places that most would look down on (Ocean City), and my dc's don't have the trappings you would associate with rich kids. There are certainly "rich" kids at those schools but it simply is not the case for all of us. A good number are Government and non-profit workers with advanced degrees that value education and spread ourselves thin so we can be guaranteed a spot in one of these schools.
You do know many people can’t afford a vacation at all, right?! And if they spent their entire paycheck could still not afford a house there. But please school us on your vow of poverty... jeeeeeez. WotP are clueless.
Anonymous
03/13/2019 13:25
Subject: How can DCPS improve *all* its schools when Wilson and feeders raise big PTA money for enrichment?
Also: Anacostia Park comes up as number 1 in the DMV in at least one list of the best plagrounds.