Anonymous wrote:"Looks like" is not equivalent to "comes across as."

You can look younger than the typical person your age and act younger, typical for your age, or more mature. I certainly hope you aren't criticizing people for having good skin or staying fit.

Of course not. But a fit 48-year old with good skin is still a 48-year old. Not to be confused for a 38-year old. I am not exactly sure what I am criticizing - perhaps the idea that aiming "younger" is a good thing. Looks and image are holistic, they are not defined by your fitness level or quality of your skin. If you are 48, the totality of your 48 years of experience and thoughts should be evident in your manner, style and conversation. It should shine through your eyes. That's an asset, not a drawback. If they don't, then I'd think you missed on the life experience that a 48-year old should have. When a 48-year old woman says she's routinely taken for a 35-year old, I ask myself - what part of your brain are you hiding to conceal your experience? Or were you in a coma for the last 13 years of your life? Because if you're 48, you should sound 13 years smarter than a 35-year old. I mean you should BE 13 years smarter than a 35-year old. And that should be evident despite the quality of your skin or fitness level.

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OP, I would stick with the younger guys. There is a sharp decline in, um, performance among the age range you seek.

Or men should stick with younger women as there is a sharp decline in, um, attractiveness in the age range noted.

It might be that the decline in performance is related to older women's decline in attractiveness.

As a mid-50s man, that has been my experience. With younger women--I'm better than ever. With older women, I need 50mg of Viagra, and prayers.

Hahaha. No young woman would touch your d with a 10 foot pole. It’s fun to pretend things on the Internet though. So easy to create a false image of yourself and try to make women feel bad. Sorry it won’t work, women have no trouble finding sex at any age. They have lower drives, and therefore more demand, always. Sorry you don’t like it.

I have dated three women in their 20s since being divorced five year ago (slept with two), and had a long-term fwb who was in her late 30s and dated several other women who were in their 30s. Current gf is in her 40s. I also date women near my age.

Of my divorced friends: one had a long-term gf who was 15 years younger, another married a woman who is 10 years younger, and a third will soon marry a woman who is about 10 years younger. Ten years younger seems to be the sweet spot.

"Looks like" is not equivalent to "comes across as."

You can look younger than the typical person your age and act younger, typical for your age, or more mature. I certainly hope you aren't criticizing people for having good skin or staying fit.

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Anonymous wrote:There is really no such thing as a 48-year old who doesn't look 48. Man or woman. And if there is, it doesn't say nice things about them.

Here's the picture from a prior page. If the younger-looking women from this "look 48," then that's no insult.

Any age has a range of youthfulness or aging appearance.



Which ones are 48? All of them, and no celebrities.

It's not meant to be an insult. On the contrary, as I said, a 48-year old that comes across as a younger person is not a good thing for that person.

jeez, who is the old crusty pants, now? I am an old soul with a young heart.

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Anonymous wrote:There is really no such thing as a 48-year old who doesn't look 48. Man or woman. And if there is, it doesn't say nice things about them.

Here's the picture from a prior page. If the younger-looking women from this "look 48," then that's no insult.

Any age has a range of youthfulness or aging appearance.



Which ones are 48? All of them, and no celebrities.

It's not meant to be an insult. On the contrary, as I said, a 48-year old that comes across as a younger person is not a good thing for that person.

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Are there some men out there in the range looking for this similar age appropriate mate? Seems like it although the sheer numbers of how many of these men are out there appears to be low. The OP says she looks younger and gets hit on by younger men i don't doubt the claim. Maybe appear or "position" ( thats code for lie) about the age so you seem to be 37-40 ish and go after men that are 47- ? which would be looking in your fake age range. Not the best advice but not uncommon either. Bottom line a close to 50 age man who has his act together is rarely looking at women close to his own age.

Early 50s divorced man. I am looking for an interesting, physically attractive woman. I'd certainly be open to 48 through early 50s if she was in great shape (because I am in great shape). My concern would be her level of sexual enthusiasm, which I am told starts diminishing at that age.

I'm 56 and my sexual enthusiasm disappeared in my late 40's as I had no interest in sleeping with my now ex husband. Once free of him my enthusiasm returned and I get no complaints from my SO. Keep in mind that men of a certain age can experience diminished skills as well even if they have the enthusiasm.

Anonymous wrote:You really love that graph, don't you? How was it constructed? (Lies, damn lies, and statistics.) It matters how questions were asked and what groups were targeted to get the information.

LOL it is better than the usual "scientific" refutation on DCUM, which is along the lines of "I don't know any women who..."

Anonymous wrote:There is really no such thing as a 48-year old who doesn't look 48. Man or woman. And if there is, it doesn't say nice things about them.

Here's the picture from a prior page. If the younger-looking women from this "look 48," then that's no insult.

Any age has a range of youthfulness or aging appearance.



Which ones are 48? All of them, and no celebrities.

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Anonymous wrote:Mid 30s guys shouldn't be going after women approaching menopause, ok. I thought all guys knew this, but apparently the younger schleps weren't trained properly. Ideal age for mid 30s guy seeking a relatoonship is around 26.

Depends what you want.

Marriage and children = date a girl who is 26

Easy no-commitment sex = pump and dump a desperate 40-something divorcée

There's the lived experience of several women on this thread, and then there's the stark bitterness of your misogyny. Hmmm, what to believe, who to trust.

Life is so complicated.

(Sorry she left you.)

Apparently the "lived experience" of men should be dismissed as "misogyny".

Well, yours is, based on the contemptuous language.

You can certainly speak to how often you and the guys you know approach certain women. You can't authoritatively speak to how often those women are approached by guys in general. How would you know? Are we supposed to believe the guys we have gone out with are, like, simulacrum robots or something?

"You don't have a chance at being desired because I don't desire you."

Okay, dude. Sure thing.

"Desired" -- the question is, desired for what.

It is really not a secret, and should not be controversial, that a man in his mid 30s who wants a wife with whom to have children will seek out a woman in her late 20s. If he approaches a woman in her late 40s, it is not for that purpose. What other purpose could he have in mind? Hmmmm, let me think. And that purpose - a short term sexual relationship - does not even constitute misogyny, since we know that in our advanced progressive times, plenty of women are open to such relationships.

So you (or the guy above) call it "pump and dump" and characterize divorcees as "desperate" NOT because you (are he) are bitter and angry, and still carrying shame and rage? Right.

Sorry, friend. Childless by choice is a popular option, and about 1/3 of millennials are making that choice, by recent studies. Your "man in his mid 30s who wants a wife with whom to have children" is not the only option. And that or "pump and dump" are not the only options.

I do not have any interest in telling you whom to pursue. Go make yourself happy. But don't try to shame or belittle women because you think you are the only game in town, and that gives you some kind of power over them. It just makes you look small and desperate.

There is really no such thing as a 48-year old who doesn't look 48. Man or woman. And if there is, it doesn't say nice things about them.

You really love that graph, don't you? How was it constructed? (Lies, damn lies, and statistics.) It matters how questions were asked and what groups were targeted to get the information.

A reverse image search shows it turns up on Redditt's Red Pill. Also Wordpress and Twitter sites, as well as others, like magazines. It looks like it may come from OKCupid data? ( https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/christian-rudder-dataclysm-okcupid/ )

My friend, that does not mean women in the 3D world aren't getting approached by men their own age. "Keep in mind that before you get skeeved out thinking that even your grandpa ideally wants a partner that couldn't even get into bars, this was pulled off a dating site, so it's really just about kneejerk reactions to physical appearance when scrolling through profiles."

Your endpoint is "what do guys on OK Cupid rank as most physically attractive on first pass, scrolling through pictures." That's not the real world endpoint.

But if you need to keep reposting it to feel better about what happened, you do you, bro.

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Anonymous wrote:Mid 30s guys shouldn't be going after women approaching menopause, ok. I thought all guys knew this, but apparently the younger schleps weren't trained properly. Ideal age for mid 30s guy seeking a relatoonship is around 26.

Depends what you want.

Marriage and children = date a girl who is 26

Easy no-commitment sex = pump and dump a desperate 40-something divorcée

There's the lived experience of several women on this thread, and then there's the stark bitterness of your misogyny. Hmmm, what to believe, who to trust.

Life is so complicated.

(Sorry she left you.)

Apparently the "lived experience" of men should be dismissed as "misogyny".

Well, yours is, based on the contemptuous language.

You can certainly speak to how often you and the guys you know approach certain women. You can't authoritatively speak to how often those women are approached by guys in general. How would you know? Are we supposed to believe the guys we have gone out with are, like, simulacrum robots or something?

"You don't have a chance at being desired because I don't desire you."

Okay, dude. Sure thing.

"Desired" -- the question is, desired for what.

It is really not a secret, and should not be controversial, that a man in his mid 30s who wants a wife with whom to have children will seek out a woman in her late 20s. If he approaches a woman in her late 40s, it is not for that purpose. What other purpose could he have in mind? Hmmmm, let me think. And that purpose - a short term sexual relationship - does not even constitute misogyny, since we know that in our advanced progressive times, plenty of women are open to such relationships.

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Anonymous wrote:Mid 30s guys shouldn't be going after women approaching menopause, ok. I thought all guys knew this, but apparently the younger schleps weren't trained properly. Ideal age for mid 30s guy seeking a relatoonship is around 26. But regarding OP, I don't know many guys below 55 who would date a 48 year old woman.

I mean, thanks for your thoughts on what people “should” do or find attractive. Sorry your narrative doesn’t play out in real life.

Ha. There are many, many posts on DCUM in which women scold men for wanting to date "age inappropriate" women and tell them what age they should be dating.

No, most are just calling men out on their hilarious lies about how all the 35 year old women are lining up for 50 year old guys.

"Anything that makes me feel bad can't possibly be true."

Sorry buddy. There is actually data about this, and it doesn’t line up with the claims of the DCUM woman haters.

Uh huh. Tell me all about that "data".

And to contend that you are a "woman hater" if you say 50-something men prefer to date much younger women is hilariously stupid. Older men don't hate women -- they love them! Especially the younger women. And it's just a fact that men are attracted to younger women. Sorry if this gives you the sadz.

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Anonymous wrote:Mid 30s guys shouldn't be going after women approaching menopause, ok. I thought all guys knew this, but apparently the younger schleps weren't trained properly. Ideal age for mid 30s guy seeking a relatoonship is around 26.

Depends what you want.

Marriage and children = date a girl who is 26

Easy no-commitment sex = pump and dump a desperate 40-something divorcée

There's the lived experience of several women on this thread, and then there's the stark bitterness of your misogyny. Hmmm, what to believe, who to trust.

Life is so complicated.

(Sorry she left you.)

Apparently the "lived experience" of men should be dismissed as "misogyny".

Well, yours is, based on the contemptuous language.

You can certainly speak to how often you and the guys you know approach certain women. You can't authoritatively speak to how often those women are approached by guys in general. How would you know? Are we supposed to believe the guys we have gone out with are, like, simulacrum robots or something?

"You don't have a chance at being desired because I don't desire you."

Okay, dude. Sure thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Mid 30s guys shouldn't be going after women approaching menopause, ok. I thought all guys knew this, but apparently the younger schleps weren't trained properly. Ideal age for mid 30s guy seeking a relatoonship is around 26. But regarding OP, I don't know many guys below 55 who would date a 48 year old woman.

I mean, thanks for your thoughts on what people “should” do or find attractive. Sorry your narrative doesn’t play out in real life.

Ha. There are many, many posts on DCUM in which women scold men for wanting to date "age inappropriate" women and tell them what age they should be dating.

No, most are just calling men out on their hilarious lies about how all the 35 year old women are lining up for 50 year old guys.

"Anything that makes me feel bad can't possibly be true."

Sorry buddy. There is actually data about this, and it doesn’t line up with the claims of the DCUM woman haters.