Anonymous
02/20/2019 10:48
Subject: Teachers: why aren’t you weighing in on the redshirt debates?
Anonymous wrote:My teacher spouse believes it creates fake "gifted" kids. They are accelerated in the early years in school because they start ahead of the other kids having gone through preschool twice (and often in a Preschool 1 then Preschool 2 program). They get easily bored in class and are then pushed into the gifted programs or at the very least given different work.
She says it all catches up with them in HS where she's a teacher (9th grade honors science course). Gifted in ES means they get in the advanced classes in MS and usually do okay, however, they flounder when funneled into the advanced/honors and AP tracks in HS.
Says she gets lots of parents who are very "my kid has NEVER had an issue until now so it is clearly not HIM that is the cause" and refuse to see that their kid isn't actually gifted like they thought.
Definitely a troll.
Anonymous
02/20/2019 10:36
Subject: Teachers: why aren’t you weighing in on the redshirt debates?
Anonymous wrote:Retention doesn't give a year. It steals a year. It delays workforce entry by a year. (Retention also increases dropout risk, but setting that aside.)
OMG sometimes the kids are a month older than some of their peers, that’s it! How is that going to affect anything so much?! So melodramatic some of you are. People redshirt for a ton of reasons, very few do it to get their kids ahead.
Anonymous
02/20/2019 01:30
Subject: Teachers: why aren’t you weighing in on the redshirt debates?
Retention doesn't give a year. It steals a year. It delays workforce entry by a year. (Retention also increases dropout risk, but setting that aside.)
Anonymous
02/19/2019 15:39
Subject: Teachers: why aren’t you weighing in on the redshirt debates?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably because they are done with DCUM teacher haters and don’t want to be accused of being “lazy” for being in favor of redshirting. Surely they would only be in favor to make their jobs easier.
FWIW every teacher I know was in favor of redshirting. I asked probably ten teacher friends when we were considering our son with a late July birthday. Only one said not to.
So if they are saying yes to late July, what do you think theyd say for mid June?! I am so confused by all this and have a mid June kid.
I can’t believe that your child’s teachers haven’t given you their opinion.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 15:23
Subject: Teachers: why aren’t you weighing in on the redshirt debates?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably because they are done with DCUM teacher haters and don’t want to be accused of being “lazy” for being in favor of redshirting. Surely they would only be in favor to make their jobs easier.
FWIW every teacher I know was in favor of redshirting. I asked probably ten teacher friends when we were considering our son with a late July birthday. Only one said not to.
So if they are saying yes to late July, what do you think theyd say for mid June?! I am so confused by all this and have a mid June kid.
TeAchers at a parochial school (which I think are less likely to be in favor of redshirting than independent school teachers) told me that it’s good to give an extra year of childhood especially to August birthday kids (DD was born on august 23rd). I don’t know how the would feel about june biryhday, but my feeling is that it’s all relative to the child. Your kid could be more mature than a March birthday child and less mature than an August birthday one... if you are going tonpuvlic or parochial schools, there may be several kids more than one year younger than your kid. In my DD’s case it’s less likely
Anonymous
02/19/2019 14:53
Subject: Teachers: why aren’t you weighing in on the redshirt debates?
Anonymous wrote:Probably because they are done with DCUM teacher haters and don’t want to be accused of being “lazy” for being in favor of redshirting. Surely they would only be in favor to make their jobs easier.
FWIW every teacher I know was in favor of redshirting. I asked probably ten teacher friends when we were considering our son with a late July birthday. Only one said not to.
So if they are saying yes to late July, what do you think theyd say for mid June?! I am so confused by all this and have a mid June kid.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 10:29
Subject: Teachers: why aren’t you weighing in on the redshirt debates?
Developmental pediatrician and/or a psychologist. An LCSW is practicing outside of their profession's scope if they are doing formalized assessments.
Re: the "fake gifted" kids: IQ, achievement, and other skill-specific tests are normed by age, meaning your kids' scores are compared to other students their age (often down to the month e.g., 5yrs10months), so this is simply untrue. If they qualify for gifted (requires an IQ test) its because they qualify compared to same-aged peers, not based on grade level. Of course, there are ways to analyze the tests compared to grade level, but anyone who knows what they're doing will not do that unless there is a specific part of the referral question that needs to be addressed by that specific comparison (e.g., "Is Larlo reading on grade level?"),
Re: the "fake gifted" kids: IQ, achievement, and other skill-specific tests are normed by age, meaning your kids' scores are compared to other students their age (often down to the month e.g., 5yrs10months), so this is simply untrue. If they qualify for gifted (requires an IQ test) its because they qualify compared to same-aged peers, not based on grade level. Of course, there are ways to analyze the tests compared to grade level, but anyone who knows what they're doing will not do that unless there is a specific part of the referral question that needs to be addressed by that specific comparison (e.g., "Is Larlo reading on grade level?"),