I'm so thankful the GOP can't force charters down our throats here like they did in DC. It hurts the quality of public education by siphoning off funds to groups that are far less reputable.

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Anonymous wrote:We have largely been very happy with our MCPS public education experience. We left DC because we refuse to get involved with the degradation of public education. Could MCPS be better? Sure! But communities make up schools and families make-up communities and individuals make up families. I'd rather focus on building healthy individuals, families, and communities! By focusing on those areas then schools can improve. I can see on this board charter school proponents are trying to rally for the support of Hogan's charter school cronies.

You're fooling yourself. There is no such a thing as community when many leaders are inexperienced (Peter Principle) and as a result, micromanaged through fear-based tactics.

I'm sorry that you don't feel a part of your community. People do better and are happier when they are part of a community.

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It hasnt, only when taxes are raised on property or income.

MoCo adjusted-for-inflation MEDIAN income has been STAGNANT for 20 years. Why? Because low income (or no income cuz all cash jobs and remittances to the homeland) people vastly outweighed any income or quantity increase from highly skilled, educated people.

Read the study for yourself, it is a link in the WaPo article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/transportation/2019/01/24/study-montgomery-county-has-grown-older-more-diverse-pricier/

Why would you expect adjusted-for-inflation median income to increase? Serious question. I mean, that's the whole point of adjusting for inflation.

If anything, this shows that the MCPS-IS-DOOMED posters are Chicken-Little-ing. Floods of poor brown and black people (who wash your dishes, mow your grass, clean your offices, and take care of your parents), but the county's median household income has stayed the same.

https://montgomeryplanning.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/MP_TrendsReport_final.pdf

This is the recent study they put out- pp and waPo cite it.

Looks like MCPS is the global magnet county of choice for El Salvadorians!

Anonymous wrote:Are charter schools the reason?

Charter schools plus what Rhee put in place, yes. Individual schools have more autonomy than MCPS, plus a real curriculum, plus don’t limit what the pta can do. Just like MCPS the poorly performing schools get more dollars per pupil, but no results improvement.

Parents don’t have the time to run experiments in their kids k-12 education. 9-23 is a bit more standardized with things like AP and IB- you can always teach yourself and take an aP test, SAT or act test. But k-8 in docs is considbaly better than MCPS. Unless of course you are talking abut ces or magnet programs, which are now a statistically diverse, social engineered mini-program by MCPS admin.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank god there aren't any charters here. This death knell of public education is a long time GOP fantasy to harm the public by cutting taxes which benefit the common good. There are however a couple of for-profit prison companies dying to break into this arena.

No. Public education in MCPS has been killed by the inept leadership and crappy County Council that insists on over developing the County leading to overcrowded and underfunded schools.

You would think more people meant more taxes.

You would think that, right? And yet, the class sizes just keep getting bigger. The money certainly hasn't been going to smaller class sizes in MCPS.

It hasnt, only when taxes are raised on property or income.

MoCo adjusted-for-inflation MEDIAN income has been STAGNANT for 20 years. Why? Because low income (or no income cuz all cash jobs and remittances to the homeland) people vastly outweighed any income or quantity increase from highly skilled, educated people.

Read the study for yourself, it is a link in the WaPo article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/transportation/2019/01/24/study-montgomery-county-has-grown-older-more-diverse-pricier/

Anonymous wrote:We have largely been very happy with our MCPS public education experience. We left DC because we refuse to get involved with the degradation of public education. Could MCPS be better? Sure! But communities make up schools and families make-up communities and individuals make up families. I'd rather focus on building healthy individuals, families, and communities! By focusing on those areas then schools can improve. I can see on this board charter school proponents are trying to rally for the support of Hogan's charter school cronies.

You're fooling yourself. There is no such a thing as community when many leaders are inexperienced (Peter Principle) and as a result, micromanaged through fear-based tactics.

Anonymous wrote:Nope, no Charter Schools in MCPS unfortunately. Parents have no choice for their kids.

There's the DCC and NEC.

of course there's choice . . .

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Anonymous wrote:Thank god there aren't any charters here. This death knell of public education is a long time GOP fantasy to harm the public by cutting taxes which benefit the common good. There are however a couple of for-profit prison companies dying to break into this arena.

No. Public education in MCPS has been killed by the inept leadership and crappy County Council that insists on over developing the County leading to overcrowded and underfunded schools.

You would think more people meant more taxes.

You would think that, right? And yet, the class sizes just keep getting bigger. The money certainly hasn't been going to smaller class sizes in MCPS.

No, they don't. This is factually incorrect.

https://news.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/mcps-board-of-education/investing-to-reduce-class-size-and-close-the-achievement-gap/

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Anonymous wrote:Thank god there aren't any charters here. This death knell of public education is a long time GOP fantasy to harm the public by cutting taxes which benefit the common good. There are however a couple of for-profit prison companies dying to break into this arena.

No. Public education in MCPS has been killed by the inept leadership and crappy County Council that insists on over developing the County leading to overcrowded and underfunded schools.

You would think more people meant more taxes.

You would think that, right? And yet, the class sizes just keep getting bigger. The money certainly hasn't been going to smaller class sizes in MCPS.

because all that ph4t tax loot is being funneled into public employee pension slush funds instead of to education

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Anonymous wrote:Thank god there aren't any charters here. This death knell of public education is a long time GOP fantasy to harm the public by cutting taxes which benefit the common good. There are however a couple of for-profit prison companies dying to break into this arena.

No. Public education in MCPS has been killed by the inept leadership and crappy County Council that insists on over developing the County leading to overcrowded and underfunded schools.

You would think more people meant more taxes.

You would think that, right? And yet, the class sizes just keep getting bigger. The money certainly hasn't been going to smaller class sizes in MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Dcps in nw DC Is kicking mcps Bethesda butt. Go take a tour and compare schedules, pe, class sizes, aides, tests per yr.

It must be the lead in DC water. DC folks cannot be that delusional. It must be!

DCPS > MCPS!!!@ We rulez u!

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Anonymous wrote:Thank god there aren't any charters here. This death knell of public education is a long time GOP fantasy to harm the public by cutting taxes which benefit the common good. There are however a couple of for-profit prison companies dying to break into this arena.

No. Public education in MCPS has been killed by the inept leadership and crappy County Council that insists on over developing the County leading to overcrowded and underfunded schools.

You would think more people meant more taxes.

Anonymous wrote:Dcps in nw DC Is kicking mcps Bethesda butt. Go take a tour and compare schedules, pe, class sizes, aides, tests per yr.

It must be the lead in DC water. DC folks cannot be that delusional. It must be!

Anonymous wrote:Dcps in nw DC Is kicking mcps Bethesda butt. Go take a tour and compare schedules, pe, class sizes, aides, tests per yr.

This is a bit of a non sequitur in a discussion about charters, since literally every school you are describing is a local public rather than a charter school. Unless you are ready to show the test scores for a Ward 3 charter that outperforms a Bethesda school.