Anonymous wrote:Guaranteed holidays, weekends and summers off. At least one hour per day of "planning" time, generous sick leave which is often used as personal leave, absolute job security after tenure and good pension plans. I think a lot of teachers have a pretty good deal compared to the average working stiff, which is why there is fierce competition for many teaching jobs in the suburbs.

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Anonymous wrote:In literally every other job, if you need to go to the bathroom, you get up and go. Have you ever considered that? If a teacher has to go to the restroom, they have to wait a few hours for lunch, or somehow magically find an extra adult that is certified to be alone with the children in the classroom, without leaving the room or using a phone.

Someone pointed that out to me, and that is tortuous.

Wait a few hours for lunch... what about recess. That's an opportunity twice/day to go to the bathroom.

So nurses just leave the room to pee whenever they need to?

I had a desk job for awhile in an office where we could only leave our desk for breaks.

That one doesn't fly.

Anonymous wrote:Aww...the underpaid teachers who enjoy their trips to Switzerland, Portugal, Ireland, Australia, France, Hawaii...

Anonymous wrote:In response to the OP, this isn't really about a profession or about the complaints from your 2 friends who happen to be a part of that profession. What I hear is that you are unable to set boundaries or communicate your needs with those 2 friends. My recommendation is this: Tell your friends you love them but you don't want to hear them complain about their job. Period. Be a grown up and communicate. Set a boundary and if your friends don't respect that boundary, find different friends. This is what adults do. If you are unable to do this, there are therapists available who might be able to help you learn this skill.

Anonymous wrote:In literally every other job, if you need to go to the bathroom, you get up and go. Have you ever considered that? If a teacher has to go to the restroom, they have to wait a few hours for lunch, or somehow magically find an extra adult that is certified to be alone with the children in the classroom, without leaving the room or using a phone.

Someone pointed that out to me, and that is tortuous.

Anonymous wrote:My two teacher friends constantly complain about how much work they have & how little they get paid when ever we get together. They act as if teaching is the hardest job & that anyone who works any other job doesn't work as hard as them when school is in session. But most jobs are difficult in certain ways & a lot of jobs pay the same range but without the added benefits. And I can't understand why they complain about pay when they chose to go into the field knowing the pay range. Is this normal for teachers or is this just an isolated occurrence?

Anonymous wrote:Imagine you had to run a meeting 6-7 hours a day. You had to lead the meeting--agenda, content, presentations, discussions, work output, materials, everything. During that meeting, you can't check email or make a phone call. And in between the 6-7 hour meeting, you have smaller 20-1 hour meetings.

Imagine 25 of the 30 participants do not want to be there and don't have the ability to pay attention or follow directions. And you have to keep them on track.

Imagine you had to give immediate feedback/evaluations from today's meeting to every participant.

Imagine after running that meeting, you have to plan and prepare for tomorrow's 6-7 hour meeting.

Imagine if your participants fail to perform or have substandard work product, you are blamed.

Imagine never having an off day. Never spending a day just dealing with the little things.

Imagine it keeps going, day after day. It's exhausting to have to plan and manage every minute of every day for 30-150 participants.

I used to be a teacher. I miss it every day. But I'd never go back. The daily grind with no support staff to handle things was just too much. If I got a secretary, Id totally go back.

Until you've done it, you just don't understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Normal for many teachers. They don't realize that they get paid more than other professions like social workers as they get summers off if they choose. They have a cushy deal.

A cushy job, LOL! I have a cushy job. Im paid 298k to do it, get to work from home whenever I want, get to expense so many nice meals, get to take time off whenever i want to see my kids events at school or volunteer in the classroom. Can work out at lunch if i have the time, I'm respected by the people around me, I get really nice gifts from vendors around the holidays, very frequently get box seats at all sporting events and many big name concerts. My kids have never been to a sporting event that hasn't been in a catered box, all curteousy of vendors or my company, and my employer pays 3k per quarter towards any continuing education I would like and it doesnt even have to be applicable to my job.

Teachers are horribly underpaid and over worked. It's really awful how they are treated. I've spent enough time in the classroom to see exactly why the tune over and burn out of so high. I couldn't be half as good as my kids best teachers.

Anonymous wrote:Normal for many teachers. They don't realize that they get paid more than other professions like social workers as they get summers off if they choose. They have a cushy deal.