Isn't Super Fudge geared towards, like, 2nd and 3rd graders? So 8 year old kids? If your kid still believes in Santa at age 8 you have some problems.

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Anonymous wrote:Judy Blume: Parents worry too much about what children read
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10868544/Judy-Blume-Parents-worry-too-much-about-what-children-read.html

I’m team Judy but you do you!

I agree that problematic material goes over kids' heads if they're not ready for it. I read Jean Auel in grade school and didn't really think anything of some of the content at the time.

Santa Claus is not above kids' heads, though. He is right at the level of 4, 6, 8 year olds.

From the article:
"A lot of people will want to control everything in their children's lives, or everything in other people's children's lives.”

I really feel like other people are trying to control my kids with respect to Santa - that I really have to keep up a lie for other people.

THIS

We're Jewish and DS is 7 and this has been the first holiday season where the Santa thing has proven to be a bit difficult. He is definitely a bit jealous of kids who celebrate Christmas, and he questioned why we do angel tree gifts when Santa already brings presents to everyone who celebrates Christmas. He understands that we're Jewish which is why we don't celebrate Christmas, Honestly, the only reason I don't tell him the truth about Santa is because I don't want him to ruin it for other kids, even accidentally. But how long do I need to keep up this charade? It seems a bit odd to me that I have to have DS believe a lie about something in which we don't even believe or participate. But I do because I don't want DS to be known as the kid who ruined Christmas.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe teach children not to contradict someone else’s beliefs. Santa is no less real than Jesus or G-d.

That’s right. No more contradictions and debates, even about unicorns. We’ll need to slap trigger warnings on the encyclopedias, though. (if they even still have encyclopedias at school?)

Maybe teach children not to contradict someone else’s beliefs. Santa is no less real than Jesus or G-d.

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Anonymous wrote:Since we are talking about outing Santa... I thought I would warn people that Judy Blume's book Super Fudge totally talks about how Santa isn't real and only "babies" believe it is real. The 4 year old in the book say this.

Judy Blume- who was raised Jewish: Said that she can't imagine anyone being upset about the book, because all children know Santa isn't real......sigh.....

The book is narrated by a fifth-grade boy, and is intended for older elementary students. If, by fourth or fifth grade, your child has not ever heard anyone say that Santa isn't real, then you have other issues.

Oooh, like what "issues", exactly? Do tell.

There's a This American Life episode about this -- a grown up having issues with his father who went to extraordinary lengths with the Santa myth in his youth. It's hilarious/sad. Then again, that show is run by a bunch of Jewish folks, so who knows if they handled the whole episode with the requisite amount of sensitivity, amirite?

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Anonymous wrote:Judy Blume: Parents worry too much about what children read
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10868544/Judy-Blume-Parents-worry-too-much-about-what-children-read.html

I’m team Judy but you do you!

I agree that problematic material goes over kids' heads if they're not ready for it. I read Jean Auel in grade school and didn't really think anything of some of the content at the time.

Santa Claus is not above kids' heads, though. He is right at the level of 4, 6, 8 year olds.

From the article:
"A lot of people will want to control everything in their children's lives, or everything in other people's children's lives.”

I really feel like other people are trying to control my kids with respect to Santa - that I really have to keep up a lie for other people.

I'm sorry that a PSA about a book makes you feel so attacked.

I think I get what you're saying, PP. A Jewish friend of mine told me that when he was a kid, his mom got an upset call from the kindergarten teacher because he had told some kids at school that Santa wasn't real. His teacher was hoping his mother would get him to stop talking. I think this was ridiculous. Even though we do Santa in our family, I realize I have no right to control what other kids and people say about Santa. Getting seeds of doubt planted about Santa, even at a young age, is a normal part of childhood.

It apparently never occurred to that Jewish friend that she would have gotten the same phone call from the kindergarten teacher about her kid telling others that Santa wasn't real even if he were not Jewish.

And it never occurred to the teacher that it wasn't her place to help reinforce a religious holiday?

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Anonymous wrote:Judy Blume: Parents worry too much about what children read
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10868544/Judy-Blume-Parents-worry-too-much-about-what-children-read.html

I’m team Judy but you do you!

I agree that problematic material goes over kids' heads if they're not ready for it. I read Jean Auel in grade school and didn't really think anything of some of the content at the time.

Santa Claus is not above kids' heads, though. He is right at the level of 4, 6, 8 year olds.

From the article:
"A lot of people will want to control everything in their children's lives, or everything in other people's children's lives.”

I really feel like other people are trying to control my kids with respect to Santa - that I really have to keep up a lie for other people.

I'm sorry that a PSA about a book makes you feel so attacked.

I think I get what you're saying, PP. A Jewish friend of mine told me that when he was a kid, his mom got an upset call from the kindergarten teacher because he had told some kids at school that Santa wasn't real. His teacher was hoping his mother would get him to stop talking. I think this was ridiculous. Even though we do Santa in our family, I realize I have no right to control what other kids and people say about Santa. Getting seeds of doubt planted about Santa, even at a young age, is a normal part of childhood.

It apparently never occurred to that Jewish friend that she would have gotten the same phone call from the kindergarten teacher about her kid telling others that Santa wasn't real even if he were not Jewish.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judy Blume: Parents worry too much about what children read
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10868544/Judy-Blume-Parents-worry-too-much-about-what-children-read.html

I’m team Judy but you do you!

I agree that problematic material goes over kids' heads if they're not ready for it. I read Jean Auel in grade school and didn't really think anything of some of the content at the time.

Santa Claus is not above kids' heads, though. He is right at the level of 4, 6, 8 year olds.

From the article:
"A lot of people will want to control everything in their children's lives, or everything in other people's children's lives.”

I really feel like other people are trying to control my kids with respect to Santa - that I really have to keep up a lie for other people.

I'm sorry that a PSA about a book makes you feel so attacked.

The OP attacked Judy Blume as a Jewish woman for outing Santa. So yes, those of us who are Jewish feel attacked because we WERE attacked. Stop gaslighting.

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids whatever, but it's not the job of non-Christians to perpetuate your lie.

- Muslim kid who stood arm in arm with my Jewish classmates over this ridiculous Santa stuff

+1!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Judy Blume: Parents worry too much about what children read
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10868544/Judy-Blume-Parents-worry-too-much-about-what-children-read.html

I’m team Judy but you do you!

I agree that problematic material goes over kids' heads if they're not ready for it. I read Jean Auel in grade school and didn't really think anything of some of the content at the time.

Santa Claus is not above kids' heads, though. He is right at the level of 4, 6, 8 year olds.

From the article:
"A lot of people will want to control everything in their children's lives, or everything in other people's children's lives.”

I really feel like other people are trying to control my kids with respect to Santa - that I really have to keep up a lie for other people.

I'm sorry that a PSA about a book makes you feel so attacked.

I think I get what you're saying, PP. A Jewish friend of mine told me that when he was a kid, his mom got an upset call from the kindergarten teacher because he had told some kids at school that Santa wasn't real. His teacher was hoping his mother would get him to stop talking. I think this was ridiculous. Even though we do Santa in our family, I realize I have no right to control what other kids and people say about Santa. Getting seeds of doubt planted about Santa, even at a young age, is a normal part of childhood.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Judy Blume: Parents worry too much about what children read
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10868544/Judy-Blume-Parents-worry-too-much-about-what-children-read.html

I’m team Judy but you do you!

I agree that problematic material goes over kids' heads if they're not ready for it. I read Jean Auel in grade school and didn't really think anything of some of the content at the time.

Santa Claus is not above kids' heads, though. He is right at the level of 4, 6, 8 year olds.

From the article:
"A lot of people will want to control everything in their children's lives, or everything in other people's children's lives.”

I really feel like other people are trying to control my kids with respect to Santa - that I really have to keep up a lie for other people.

I'm sorry that a PSA about a book makes you feel so attacked.

The PSA about the book is fine for those who want it - I am referring to in general.

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Anonymous wrote:Judy Blume: Parents worry too much about what children read
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10868544/Judy-Blume-Parents-worry-too-much-about-what-children-read.html

I’m team Judy but you do you!

I agree that problematic material goes over kids' heads if they're not ready for it. I read Jean Auel in grade school and didn't really think anything of some of the content at the time.

Santa Claus is not above kids' heads, though. He is right at the level of 4, 6, 8 year olds.

From the article:
"A lot of people will want to control everything in their children's lives, or everything in other people's children's lives.”

I really feel like other people are trying to control my kids with respect to Santa - that I really have to keep up a lie for other people.

I'm sorry that a PSA about a book makes you feel so attacked.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judy Blume: Parents worry too much about what children read
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10868544/Judy-Blume-Parents-worry-too-much-about-what-children-read.html

I’m team Judy but you do you!

I agree that problematic material goes over kids' heads if they're not ready for it. I read Jean Auel in grade school and didn't really think anything of some of the content at the time.

Santa Claus is not above kids' heads, though. He is right at the level of 4, 6, 8 year olds.

From the article:
"A lot of people will want to control everything in their children's lives, or everything in other people's children's lives.”

I really feel like other people are trying to control my kids with respect to Santa - that I really have to keep up a lie for other people.

THIS

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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids whatever, but it's not the job of non-Christians to perpetuate your lie.

- Muslim kid who stood arm in arm with my Jewish classmates over this ridiculous Santa stuff

How kindhearted of you.

It was super kindhearted of (some of) the Christian kids to question and harass the Muslim and Jewish kids what we did wrong and why were so naughty so as to never get gifts from Santa.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judy Blume: Parents worry too much about what children read
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10868544/Judy-Blume-Parents-worry-too-much-about-what-children-read.html

I’m team Judy but you do you!

I agree that problematic material goes over kids' heads if they're not ready for it. I read Jean Auel in grade school and didn't really think anything of some of the content at the time.

Santa Claus is not above kids' heads, though. He is right at the level of 4, 6, 8 year olds.

From the article:
"A lot of people will want to control everything in their children's lives, or everything in other people's children's lives.”

I really feel like other people are trying to control my kids with respect to Santa - that I really have to keep up a lie for other people.