Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 21:09     Subject: Re:who drives babysitter home?
I always expected to be able to get myself to and from a job without inconveniencing the family I’m working for. If I couldn’t get myself home from a job, I wouldn’t take it. I didn’t sit in high school (did in college), but worked part time in high school and chose a place that was walkable from home before I could drive. One of the family’s I sat for in college would drive me home, but it was an extra and not expected as a requirement.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 19:58     Subject: Re:who drives babysitter home?
As a teenage babysitter within the last five years, I was usually driven home by the parents of the kids I babysat for, even if I was willing to (usually bike) home with a headlamp. It really varied between dads and moms, and I never really minded either way. I'm from a pretty rural/suburban area, so walking was frequently not practical (30-40 minutes after midnight.) I think that part of what you gain with the commitment to get teenage sitters home is definitely flexibly. I know that I was much more likely to be chill with a varying end time if I wasn't facing a walk/bike ride/ trying to convince my mom/dad to come get me.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 18:30     Subject: who drives babysitter home?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My teen babysitter who does not drive has been babysitting more. I always get her to her jobs, but expect the family who is babysitting to drive her home. One family always seems to expect me to pick her up at the end of the night. I would understand if they ask on occasion if one parent is out of town and the other comes home and does not want to leave young kids alone late at night, but generally if both parents are there shouldn't one of them drive my daughter home?


I've never even thought to have the parents of the sitter pick their kid up.

I, thremom ALWAYS drive home female teen sitters. We also use male sitters and for that it is whomever has not been drinking. My DH won't even take a closed door meeting with a female one on one at work, so there is no way he will ever put himself alone with a teen girl in a car.


Your DH won’t have a meeting with a woman at work unless the door is open? That is extremely unprofessional, and if he has any amount of power could be discrimination/harassment.


I'm a man and have 800 people under me in the org chart. An accusation was found to be false for harrassment on a fellow colleague. This was devastating and traumatic for him and his family. Luckily the claim was dismissed. Along with the blessing and guidance of HR and legal myself and a few other men have implemented this policy. It leaves no room for interpretation or opportunity for a career ending false accusation.

This is the climate we live in. A man in guilty in the court of public opinion without even the facts being presented. Until this changes, I'm not putting myself in any situation that could be her word against mine because there will ne no situation where I'm alone with an opportunist who can destroy my career with words.


Corporate counsel here. Unless you are implementing this policy with the boys as well (no one-on-one meetings with a guy without another person present) then bingo, discrimination. Your internal legal is giving you poor advice. I know HR has blessed it too, but frankly HR is not in a place to identify the legal issue here. By the way - if I worked in your company, what am I supposed to do as a female attorney? When I discuss a sensitive matter with my male CEO, he's going to bring in a third person? When I give a performance review to a male subordinate, the subordinate brings in a third? You guys are being ridiculous.


I will give something even more extreme: I spend a lot of time in a SCIF: a room locked, about 18 square feet. The only people allowed in the room are people read into the program. of the 6, two are female. I have spent many hours with just two of use (I am male) in the room. We can not have someone in there to baby sit.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 17:06     Subject: who drives babysitter home?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My teen babysitter who does not drive has been babysitting more. I always get her to her jobs, but expect the family who is babysitting to drive her home. One family always seems to expect me to pick her up at the end of the night. I would understand if they ask on occasion if one parent is out of town and the other comes home and does not want to leave young kids alone late at night, but generally if both parents are there shouldn't one of them drive my daughter home?


I've never even thought to have the parents of the sitter pick their kid up.

I, thremom ALWAYS drive home female teen sitters. We also use male sitters and for that it is whomever has not been drinking. My DH won't even take a closed door meeting with a female one on one at work, so there is no way he will ever put himself alone with a teen girl in a car.


Your DH won’t have a meeting with a woman at work unless the door is open? That is extremely unprofessional, and if he has any amount of power could be discrimination/harassment.


I'm a man and have 800 people under me in the org chart. An accusation was found to be false for harassment on a fellow colleague. This was devastating and traumatic for him and his family. Luckily the claim was dismissed. Along with the blessing and guidance of HR and legal myself and a few other men have implemented this policy. It leaves no room for interpretation or opportunity for a career ending false accusation.

This is the climate we live in. A man in guilty in the court of public opinion without even the facts being presented. Until this changes, I'm not putting myself in any situation that could be her word against mine because there will ne no situation where I'm alone with an opportunist who can destroy my career with words.


Corporate counsel here. Unless you are implementing this policy with the boys as well (no one-on-one meetings with a guy without another person present) then bingo, discrimination. Your internal legal is giving you poor advice. I know HR has blessed it too, but frankly HR is not in a place to identify the legal issue here. By the way - if I worked in your company, what am I supposed to do as a female attorney? When I discuss a sensitive matter with my male CEO, he's going to bring in a third person? When I give a performance review to a male subordinate, the subordinate brings in a third? You guys are being ridiculous.


My company allows similar conduct. The policy is not gender specific, but ANYONE can request a 3rd person to attend any and all meetings if someone chooses. This can be any gender makeup. Somebody might want this for religious reasons, safety reasons, reasons related to harassment, or reasons related to false claims.

We also have had some claims of misconduct that were found to be baseless, so for the protection of everyone, a broad policy was put in place. This is to protect people who might feel hararred and people who might have ulterior motives and submit a false claim. Unfortunately it is the world we live in.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 14:18     Subject: Re:who drives babysitter home?
Its the teen's job, not the person that hired them. The teen should be expected to have a ride to and from their job. The ride should by from a relative, bus/metro if reasonable distance, or Uber/Lift. You wouldn't expect a restaurant or store to drive your teen home from that job.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 08:23     Subject: Re:who drives babysitter home?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would drive my daughter, simply because when I was a teenager I hated it when the dads would drive me home.


But your daughter is not you. She is her own person. Did you hate having a dad drive you home because he was touching your leg inappropriately, or because you're a tightly-wound paranoid person?


Tightly wound and paranoid. I also don’t want someone who was likely drinking driving my kid home.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 08:11     Subject: who drives babysitter home?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My teen babysitter who does not drive has been babysitting more. I always get her to her jobs, but expect the family who is babysitting to drive her home. One family always seems to expect me to pick her up at the end of the night. I would understand if they ask on occasion if one parent is out of town and the other comes home and does not want to leave young kids alone late at night, but generally if both parents are there shouldn't one of them drive my daughter home?


I've never even thought to have the parents of the sitter pick their kid up.

I, thremom ALWAYS drive home female teen sitters. We also use male sitters and for that it is whomever has not been drinking. My DH won't even take a closed door meeting with a female one on one at work, so there is no way he will ever put himself alone with a teen girl in a car.


Your DH won’t have a meeting with a woman at work unless the door is open? That is extremely unprofessional, and if he has any amount of power could be discrimination/harassment.


I'm a man and have 800 people under me in the org chart. An accusation was found to be false for harrassment on a fellow colleague. This was devastating and traumatic for him and his family. Luckily the claim was dismissed. Along with the blessing and guidance of HR and legal myself and a few other men have implemented this policy. It leaves no room for interpretation or opportunity for a career ending false accusation.

This is the climate we live in. A man in guilty in the court of public opinion without even the facts being presented. Until this changes, I'm not putting myself in any situation that could be her word against mine because there will ne no situation where I'm alone with an opportunist who can destroy my career with words.


Corporate counsel here. Unless you are implementing this policy with the boys as well (no one-on-one meetings with a guy without another person present) then bingo, discrimination. Your internal legal is giving you poor advice. I know HR has blessed it too, but frankly HR is not in a place to identify the legal issue here. By the way - if I worked in your company, what am I supposed to do as a female attorney? When I discuss a sensitive matter with my male CEO, he's going to bring in a third person? When I give a performance review to a male subordinate, the subordinate brings in a third? You guys are being ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 07:28     Subject: Re:who drives babysitter home?
Anonymous wrote:I will drive my DD there, but do expect that she will be driven her home unless there is communication otherwise. Those of you who hire sitters should understand that my DD may consider herself "free" to babysit even though I may have other plans. I am not necessarily at your beckon call to come and retrieve your employee when you happen to return home. I also always drove my sitters home when I hired them. If you want a sitter that you don't have to drive home, make sure they understand that or hire one that can drive. And NOTE once HS kids drive, they usually lose interest in babysitting so your best neighborhood sitters are in the 13-15 yrs old and you should plan on driving them. Otherwise, pay more and hire a college aged person or older.

This and other issues provide a great opportunity for young teens to work on their communication skills. I've had to train my DD to ask what families who hire her how late they expect to be out. Sometimes I give her deadline, "my parents won't allow me to babysit past 11:00." She can also ask, "does my mom need to come and get me or will you drive me home"?


It’s beck and call.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2018 07:16     Subject: Re:who drives babysitter home?
We have always hired college age or older sitters so this hasn’t been an issue, but i kind of surprised that so many people are happy/willing to drive their sitters home at the end of the evening, as it would be a complete deal breaker for me in hiring someone. Out of curiosity how much are those of you who provide rides to your sitters paying per hour?