Anonymous
11/13/2018 12:43
Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:A clear example of groups who RUIN the sport.
BSC are a group of thieves!
Trump would be proud.
Can you not bring freaking Trump into youth soccer? Goddamnit, can you just not?
Anonymous
11/13/2018 11:30
Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
We enjoyed the Columbia Fall Classic for boys this past weekend - fields were adequate at Western Regional Park, not too far away.
Anonymous
11/13/2018 11:26
Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I don't know what the rationale was for including so many teams but development was not a major part of the discussion.
Tournaments have nothing to do with development. They are huge fundraising events for the hosting clubs. That's it. The motivation to provide a good experience is only because it's a competitive market. With the sheer number of tournaments being offered now, teams have many options. But it is all about making money, and there's nothing wrong with that. The clubs are non-profits, so after paying the operating expenses (including sometimes professional tournament directors), they have to pour that $$ back into the clubs.
Where does it go? Some goes for training and equipment, which offsets costs for the players. A lot of it also goes into field improvement, including providing funding for more turf fields, many of which have been paid for by public-private partnerships between soccer clubs and local governments.
It would take a lot of bake sales and car washes to come close to the amount of money that can be raised from a tournament with hundreds of teams playing $900-1200 each.
And yet Bethesda has been having this tournament at Muldoon's for years. Exactly what field improvements have been made form the money?
Anonymous
11/13/2018 11:10
Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:
I don't know what the rationale was for including so many teams but development was not a major part of the discussion.
Tournaments have nothing to do with development. They are huge fundraising events for the hosting clubs. That's it. The motivation to provide a good experience is only because it's a competitive market. With the sheer number of tournaments being offered now, teams have many options. But it is all about making money, and there's nothing wrong with that. The clubs are non-profits, so after paying the operating expenses (including sometimes professional tournament directors), they have to pour that $$ back into the clubs.
Where does it go? Some goes for training and equipment, which offsets costs for the players. A lot of it also goes into field improvement, including providing funding for more turf fields, many of which have been paid for by public-private partnerships between soccer clubs and local governments.
It would take a lot of bake sales and car washes to come close to the amount of money that can be raised from a tournament with hundreds of teams playing $900-1200 each.
Anonymous
11/13/2018 09:11
Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For younger ages stick with the local VA tournaments who tend to do a nice job even if they don't have the same name cache as a tournament (i.e. Arlington, McLean etc).
They operate on nice fields (many turf, and/or maintained grass), and the younger crowd is the primary focus vs. getting gross fields that they can't put older kids on.
I will have to ask our coach to consider playing in these VA tournaments instead of the pathetic BSC tournament. The only thing that’s “premier” for the BSC tournament is in the name.
There's no "instead of". Both of those are spring tournaments.
Our coach chose these ‘instead’—so we did not do a Nov tournament (we did do other earlier fall ones though) and will do multiple tournaments in March at start of spring season.
We do not have an unlimited budget for tournaments so we consider on an annual basis...this year we did Early Falls, decided to forgo November, and then will have multiple in March/April....
Anonymous
11/13/2018 09:08
Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The premiere girls lacrosse tournaments have been cancelled in all or part the past three weeks, each was sponsored by a different entity and involved a large number of out of state teams, and college coaches. Bethesda soccer may be horrible, but the weather has caused havoc to more than just their tournament this month.
But you said it yourself...those tournaments were cancelled.
If I was a local, I’d rather play as much as possible, even if it’s a day or two.
If I’m from out of town, I’d rather the Tournament was cancelled.
They should think long and hard about what to do this coming weekend if the forcast is correct.
Actually, in two of them, only first day cancelled, announced the morning of the first day. Out of towners already here and had to stay. Fields were not’. Good shape on the days games were played.
Anonymous
11/13/2018 08:14
Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wags
WAGS doesn’t exist anymore.
Bethesda owns rights to numerous turf fields at high schools for practices. It’s strange that they couldn’t book any of those fields for tournament play. Most high school sports are over now for the season?
Money money money moneeeyyyty! Money!
WAGs League merged with NCSL but the WAGs Tournament still exists.
Anonymous
11/13/2018 08:12
Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
A total money grab. when you have so many divisions within an age group it is very obvious.
Anonymous
11/13/2018 08:08
Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wags
WAGS doesn’t exist anymore.
Bethesda owns rights to numerous turf fields at high schools for practices. It’s strange that they couldn’t book any of those fields for tournament play. Most high school sports are over now for the season?
Money money money moneeeyyyty! Money!
We played all our games on county turf fields for the tournament
Anonymous
11/13/2018 07:50
Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
GO SOUTH FOLKS......Richmond's Cap Fall Classic and CASL are solid tournaments.
Anonymous
11/13/2018 04:28
Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
I have been going to Bethesda Premier for five years. There fields are the worse except for the fields used for the MD President's Cup. The reality is that the weather has played havoc with tournaments. There was major Columbia tournament cancelled in March because snow was still on the fields. Sate Cup was pushed back due to the rain and Bethesda's converted fields this past weekend were horrible because of the rain. You can't control the weather but Bethesda needs to scale back if they can't provide quality fields. Some of the fields at Muldoons and the Polo fields were dangerous. There were puddles on the fields and weak turf. I hope no one was injured but if I am hesitant to attend next year if the games are at the same locations.
I don't know what the rationale was for including so many teams but development was not a major part of the discussion.
I don't know what the rationale was for including so many teams but development was not a major part of the discussion.
Anonymous
11/12/2018 17:58
Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:A clear example of groups who RUIN the sport.
BSC are a group of thieves!
Trump would be proud.
A clear example of posters that massively over-exaggerates things.
Anonymous
11/12/2018 17:32
Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
A clear example of groups who RUIN the sport.
BSC are a group of thieves!
Trump would be proud.
BSC are a group of thieves!
Trump would be proud.
Anonymous
11/12/2018 16:55
Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For younger ages stick with the local VA tournaments who tend to do a nice job even if they don't have the same name cache as a tournament (i.e. Arlington, McLean etc).
They operate on nice fields (many turf, and/or maintained grass), and the younger crowd is the primary focus vs. getting gross fields that they can't put older kids on.
I will have to ask our coach to consider playing in these VA tournaments instead of the pathetic BSC tournament. The only thing that’s “premier” for the BSC tournament is in the name.
There's no "instead of". Both of those are spring tournaments.
Anonymous
11/12/2018 16:35
Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:For younger ages stick with the local VA tournaments who tend to do a nice job even if they don't have the same name cache as a tournament (i.e. Arlington, McLean etc).
They operate on nice fields (many turf, and/or maintained grass), and the younger crowd is the primary focus vs. getting gross fields that they can't put older kids on.
I will have to ask our coach to consider playing in these VA tournaments instead of the pathetic BSC tournament. The only thing that’s “premier” for the BSC tournament is in the name.