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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

Why don’t they use their considerable talents and advanced degrees and invest some sweat equity in improving the quality of their neighborhood schools?

Why are “we” discouraging our neighborhood schools from bringing in children who don’t look like our children if we live in segregated neighborhoods? Why is it so important to some people to stop that from happening? Why are there people who put so much time and energy into arguing against this? Why not have some people improving the quality of “their” neighborhood schools, AND some people improving the quality of “our” neighborhood schools by allowing them to become, or stay, integrated? Why can’t we do both?

Because the Ward 3 elementary schools are overcrowded. Because our elementary school teacher told us we need to supplement at home because the class is too big and we need to be prepared for lower test scores next year (she made us promise not to tell principal). Because DCPS has 22,000 empty seats on the other side of the park. Because the OOB lottery is just as likely to be won by a white family these days.

Wow. So has the student-teacher ratio changed? I thought that was set by dcps, but maybe I’m wrong.

What do you think happens the school is using all classrooms at capacity?

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

Why don’t they use their considerable talents and advanced degrees and invest some sweat equity in improving the quality of their neighborhood schools?

Why are “we” discouraging our neighborhood schools from bringing in children who don’t look like our children if we live in segregated neighborhoods? Why is it so important to some people to stop that from happening? Why are there people who put so much time and energy into arguing against this? Why not have some people improving the quality of “their” neighborhood schools, AND some people improving the quality of “our” neighborhood schools by allowing them to become, or stay, integrated? Why can’t we do both?

Because the Ward 3 elementary schools are overcrowded. Because our elementary school teacher told us we need to supplement at home because the class is too big and we need to be prepared for lower test scores next year (she made us promise not to tell principal). Because DCPS has 22,000 empty seats on the other side of the park. Because the OOB lottery is just as likely to be won by a white family these days.

Wow. So has the student-teacher ratio changed? I thought that was set by dcps, but maybe I’m wrong.

No, not just as likely to be a white family 'winning' the OOB lottery because the city is still more minority (AA + Latino) than white.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

Why don’t they use their considerable talents and advanced degrees and invest some sweat equity in improving the quality of their neighborhood schools?

Why are “we” discouraging our neighborhood schools from bringing in children who don’t look like our children if we live in segregated neighborhoods? Why is it so important to some people to stop that from happening? Why are there people who put so much time and energy into arguing against this? Why not have some people improving the quality of “their” neighborhood schools, AND some people improving the quality of “our” neighborhood schools by allowing them to become, or stay, integrated? Why can’t we do both?

Because the Ward 3 elementary schools are overcrowded. Because our elementary school teacher told us we need to supplement at home because the class is too big and we need to be prepared for lower test scores next year (she made us promise not to tell principal). Because DCPS has 22,000 empty seats on the other side of the park. Because the OOB lottery is just as likely to be won by a white family these days.

Exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

Why don’t they use their considerable talents and advanced degrees and invest some sweat equity in improving the quality of their neighborhood schools?

Why are “we” discouraging our neighborhood schools from bringing in children who don’t look like our children if we live in segregated neighborhoods? Why is it so important to some people to stop that from happening? Why are there people who put so much time and energy into arguing against this? Why not have some people improving the quality of “their” neighborhood schools, AND some people improving the quality of “our” neighborhood schools by allowing them to become, or stay, integrated? Why can’t we do both?

Because the Ward 3 elementary schools are overcrowded. Because our elementary school teacher told us we need to supplement at home because the class is too big and we need to be prepared for lower test scores next year (she made us promise not to tell principal). Because DCPS has 22,000 empty seats on the other side of the park. Because the OOB lottery is just as likely to be won by a white family these days.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

Why don’t they use their considerable talents and advanced degrees and invest some sweat equity in improving the quality of their neighborhood schools?

Why are “we” discouraging our neighborhood schools from bringing in children who don’t look like our children if we live in segregated neighborhoods? Why is it so important to some people to stop that from happening? Why are there people who put so much time and energy into arguing against this? Why not have some people improving the quality of “their” neighborhood schools, AND some people improving the quality of “our” neighborhood schools by allowing them to become, or stay, integrated? Why can’t we do both?

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

Why don’t they use their considerable talents and advanced degrees and invest some sweat equity in improving the quality of their neighborhood schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

So IB are white and OOB are black? Your stereotyping is really something.

Ah, but not as “something” as your assumption that black parents couldn’t possibly have graduate degrees.

PP (me) is not the same person as PPPP. Apologies — I should have clarified that. I just don’t see where anyone but you said something about blacks and graduate degrees. Baffling.

If you read down from the top: First poster notes that with the decline in OOB families, Hearst is losing its diversity. Which is true. Another poster says she prefers academic quality to diversity. The next poster points out that parents in many of the OOB families who have been providing that diversity are highly educated. Another poster then asks how, if the OOB parents are educated, they could possibly be adding diversity to the school. I.e., if they have advanced degrees, they must be white. And so on. Now I’m exhausted.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

So IB are white and OOB are black? Your stereotyping is really something.

Ah, but not as “something” as your assumption that black parents couldn’t possibly have graduate degrees.

PP (me) is not the same person as PPPP. Apologies — I should have clarified that. I just don’t see where anyone but you said something about blacks and graduate degrees. Baffling.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

Oh please, do not blithely insult every woman who is married to a law firm partner. Most parents we meet at Hearst have graduate degrees.

Actually, at Hearst, it seems the wives have the big jobs and the dads are SAH or work PT.

it’s very true that dads are involved with the PTA and other school efforts.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

Just think how much of an impact you could make on your neighborhood school with all those degrees.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

So IB are white and OOB are black? Your stereotyping is really something.

Ah, but not as “something” as your assumption that black parents couldn’t possibly have graduate degrees.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

So IB are white and OOB are black? Your stereotyping is really something.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

So this creates diversity exactly how?

Short answer: It doesn't. But "diversity" sounds great as a buzz word for continued access to WOTP schools.

Astonishingly, black people with advanced degrees do exist. I know, I didn’t believe it either, but it turns out to be true. You can look it up online! You may not have encountered them as they tend to send their children to Hearst.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is changing a lot. They can't even accommodate all the OOB kids with siblings anymore in PK. It's becoming much, much more IB and much less diverse. From my perspective, that's a loss to the school (though obviously not anyone's fault).

Diversity is nice but if I had to choose, I’ll take rising academic quality.

Changing demographic does not mean academic quality goes up.

I know a number of OOB families at Hearst. The mothers have graduate degrees, and are often better educated than the law firm partner's wives who live IB.

Oh please, do not blithely insult every woman who is married to a law firm partner. Most parents we meet at Hearst have graduate degrees.

Actually, at Hearst, it seems the wives have the big jobs and the dads are SAH or work PT.