Shelters are full of purebred beagles and other hounds.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't justify it. Why do I need to justify it? DH and kids wanted a golden, I didn't want a dog. As a matter of fact, they never even thought about a rescue. Now, I am stuck with the lovely, well behaved, adorable yellow bear and he is 100% my dog. Heck, he only listens to me. I don't have some savior or high moral ground complex and clearly nor does my DH. I used to drive a Suburban too. And I live in a house, not a condo, so wasteful too. And I eat meat, but also plants, and I feed my dog pork chops sometimes. And I feed deer, and give money to beggars, and donate cars to charities, and donate ton of stuff to used store that is a charity for animals. You do you honey, and find a job or a hobby.

Your kids wouldn't know what a golden was except for DH. Shame in him for not educating them on the value of rescuing.

Wasn't sure it was possible, but I like you less with each passing moment.

But I mean seriously? "My kids wanted a golden?" The response should be: "golden are wonderful, but let's rescue a poor sad dog in need." That's all you need to say to a kid and you've got 'em. It's called parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't justify it. Why do I need to justify it? DH and kids wanted a golden, I didn't want a dog. As a matter of fact, they never even thought about a rescue. Now, I am stuck with the lovely, well behaved, adorable yellow bear and he is 100% my dog. Heck, he only listens to me. I don't have some savior or high moral ground complex and clearly nor does my DH. I used to drive a Suburban too. And I live in a house, not a condo, so wasteful too. And I eat meat, but also plants, and I feed my dog pork chops sometimes. And I feed deer, and give money to beggars, and donate cars to charities, and donate ton of stuff to used store that is a charity for animals. You do you honey, and find a job or a hobby.

Your kids wouldn't know what a golden was except for DH. Shame in him for not educating them on the value of rescuing.

Wasn't sure it was possible, but I like you less with each passing moment.

Was the PP wrong? Do you think certain breeds are more loving than others? Or does the golden just look better in your SUV?

Newsflash: most rescues nowadays use their donor money to purchase dogs from auctions i.e. puppy mills, or to import dogs from out of state and country shelters which reinforces a supply chain.

Getting a dog, like anything else in this country, is an industry. Money is exchanged for a commodity. I contacted multiple rescues, didn't pass the sniff test to get one of their precious rescues, so I took my business elsewhere.

I sleep great at night. With my best bud at the foot of the bed warming my toes.

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Anonymous wrote:In my county, rescues are all pit and/or boxer mixes. I don't want a pit or boxer so why should I feel obligated to rescue?

Really - I find that hard to believe. Any well run shelter will keep up to date posts of their available dogs - so tell us what county you live in because this will be an easy one to prove or disprove.

I live in Pima County. Of course, "all" is hyperbole. But at least 90% are - and the others are in high demand, so going in on a Sunday morning is likely not going to get the one you pick for me on the internet. But thanks for playing.

What the heck are you doing on DCUM?

In any case I didn't waste time counting but I'd guess maybe a quarter of the many, many dogs up for adoption have some pit bull in them and most of those are just a mix:

https://petharbor.com/results.asp?searchtype=ADOPT&start=4&stylesheet=include/default.css&frontdoor=1&grid=1&friends=1&samaritans=1&nosuccess=0&rows=24&imght=120&imgres=thumb&tWidth=200&view=sysadm.v_pima&nomax=1&fontface=arial&fontsize=10&zip=85745&miles=50&shelterlist=%27PIMA%27&atype=dog&where=type_DOG

Lots of adorable dogs on there. Some of which probably originally came from breeders. And some of which are going to be euthanized. But keep looking for that perfect dog from folks with financial incentives to lie to you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't justify it. Why do I need to justify it? DH and kids wanted a golden, I didn't want a dog. As a matter of fact, they never even thought about a rescue. Now, I am stuck with the lovely, well behaved, adorable yellow bear and he is 100% my dog. Heck, he only listens to me. I don't have some savior or high moral ground complex and clearly nor does my DH. I used to drive a Suburban too. And I live in a house, not a condo, so wasteful too. And I eat meat, but also plants, and I feed my dog pork chops sometimes. And I feed deer, and give money to beggars, and donate cars to charities, and donate ton of stuff to used store that is a charity for animals. You do you honey, and find a job or a hobby.

Your kids wouldn't know what a golden was except for DH. Shame in him for not educating them on the value of rescuing.

Wasn't sure it was possible, but I like you less with each passing moment.

Anonymous wrote:I don't justify it. Why do I need to justify it? DH and kids wanted a golden, I didn't want a dog. As a matter of fact, they never even thought about a rescue. Now, I am stuck with the lovely, well behaved, adorable yellow bear and he is 100% my dog. Heck, he only listens to me. I don't have some savior or high moral ground complex and clearly nor does my DH. I used to drive a Suburban too. And I live in a house, not a condo, so wasteful too. And I eat meat, but also plants, and I feed my dog pork chops sometimes. And I feed deer, and give money to beggars, and donate cars to charities, and donate ton of stuff to used store that is a charity for animals. You do you honey, and find a job or a hobby.

Your kids wouldn't know what a golden was except for DH. Shame in him for not educating them on the value of rescuing.

I don't justify it. Why do I need to justify it? DH and kids wanted a golden, I didn't want a dog. As a matter of fact, they never even thought about a rescue. Now, I am stuck with the lovely, well behaved, adorable yellow bear and he is 100% my dog. Heck, he only listens to me. I don't have some savior or high moral ground complex and clearly nor does my DH. I used to drive a Suburban too. And I live in a house, not a condo, so wasteful too. And I eat meat, but also plants, and I feed my dog pork chops sometimes. And I feed deer, and give money to beggars, and donate cars to charities, and donate ton of stuff to used store that is a charity for animals. You do you honey, and find a job or a hobby.

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Anonymous wrote:1) Because the rescue market has created some strange incentives, and it’s not as straightforward a transaction as it may seem.

2). Because I prefer to minimize the variables by getting a breed of dog I’ve selected after doing research on what’s best for our family.

This. I also research the heck out of breeders. There is no guarantee with any dog, but you have a lot more knowledge with a puppy from a reputable breeder about the likely temperament, its genetic history, what its earliest life was like, and so on.

yup I know someone who bought a pure bred dog from a very well regarded breeder and a family friendly dog. Dog bit said person completely unprovoked causing a puncture requiring stitches. My pure bred dog I had growing up was crazy. You just never know. Breeders, no matter how reputable they are, have to breed specific lines to get specific traits. It just ends up being too unpredictable to depend on the temperament of a pure bred.

We had a trainer that said with an older rescue dog, at least you know what you are getting temperament wise. Getting a puppy from a breeder is a total crap shoot with regard to personality.

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Anonymous wrote:1) Because the rescue market has created some strange incentives, and it’s not as straightforward a transaction as it may seem.

2). Because I prefer to minimize the variables by getting a breed of dog I’ve selected after doing research on what’s best for our family.

This. I also research the heck out of breeders. There is no guarantee with any dog, but you have a lot more knowledge with a puppy from a reputable breeder about the likely temperament, its genetic history, what its earliest life was like, and so on.

yup I know someone who bought a pure bred dog from a very well regarded breeder and a family friendly dog. Dog bit said person completely unprovoked causing a puncture requiring stitches. My pure bred dog I had growing up was crazy. You just never know. Breeders, no matter how reputable they are, have to breed specific lines to get specific traits. It just ends up being too unpredictable to depend on the temperament of a pure bred.

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Anonymous wrote:The anger of pro-shelter people is unreal. You really don't want to understand, and are unwilling to accept any consideration that people have valid reasons for making different choices.

I'm hoping it's one angry person who keeps posting the same garbage. And who fails to see the irony in calling anyone with a different opinion a "Trump supporter."

Based on writing style, I think she is a regular troll and also the one who goes crazy bashing Meghan and Kate on the royal threads and religion forums.

Ah, interesting. I haven't seen those posts, but the tone is so over the top it's laughable.

Anonymous wrote:Op, I do dog rescue. The nasty tone of your post helps no one. Instead of posts like these, get involved as a dog foster.

100% true. I'm a poster in search of a dog right now. The nasty attitude reinforces that most rescue people are rude, condescending and holier than thou. (Sorry pp, you're getting lumped in because that's how most are.) I dread dealing with rescues.

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Anonymous wrote:The anger of pro-shelter people is unreal. You really don't want to understand, and are unwilling to accept any consideration that people have valid reasons for making different choices.

I'm hoping it's one angry person who keeps posting the same garbage. And who fails to see the irony in calling anyone with a different opinion a "Trump supporter."

Based on writing style, I think she is a regular troll and also the one who goes crazy bashing Meghan and Kate on the royal threads and religion forums.

Op, I do dog rescue. The nasty tone of your post helps no one. Instead of posts like these, get involved as a dog foster.

We don’t have a dog, but when our kids are older we will probably end up with a doodle of some kind. We want a big dog that’s less allergenic, and if we can’t find one that fits at a shelter or rescue we’ll go to a breeder.