Anonymous
02/20/2019 19:35
Subject: FCV DA thread
To be fair to FCV 05, the PDA team that destroyed them has destroyed other local teams. The team outscored ECNL competition 43 to 3 during the Fall season.
I think we can all agree that FCV is a solid team but even solid teams have bad games. Anyone remember Germany's beatdown of Brazil during the 2014 World Cup?
The poor behavior of two parents is an entirely different issue but let's not act like many teams don't have a parent or two who are on the edge.
I think we can all agree that FCV is a solid team but even solid teams have bad games. Anyone remember Germany's beatdown of Brazil during the 2014 World Cup?
The poor behavior of two parents is an entirely different issue but let's not act like many teams don't have a parent or two who are on the edge.
Anonymous
02/20/2019 19:24
Subject: FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spirit VA is having ID sessions on Saturday Feb 23rd at Lake Fairfax. Despite multiple team losses the players are friendly and work hard-nothing like what is being described at FCV. Parents are also kind and supportive. Take a look!
How very opportunistic of you.
By all means though, players should look at Loudoun ECNL, BRYC ECNL, Arlington DA, and McLean ECNL as well, depending on the logistics each family is willing to settle for.
We left FCV and I can tell you I haven't 'settled' for anything. I'm not raising a soccer player, I'm raising a woman - someone who is kind, strong and has self-respect. A fight at a soccer game is not my crowd.
Give it a rest.
Pretty defensive there. Don’t like people talking about what a disaster the FCV parents and kids are. Funny stuff.
Anonymous
02/20/2019 18:35
Subject: FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spirit VA is having ID sessions on Saturday Feb 23rd at Lake Fairfax. Despite multiple team losses the players are friendly and work hard-nothing like what is being described at FCV. Parents are also kind and supportive. Take a look!
How very opportunistic of you.
By all means though, players should look at Loudoun ECNL, BRYC ECNL, Arlington DA, and McLean ECNL as well, depending on the logistics each family is willing to settle for.
We left FCV and I can tell you I haven't 'settled' for anything. I'm not raising a soccer player, I'm raising a woman - someone who is kind, strong and has self-respect. A fight at a soccer game is not my crowd.
Give it a rest.
Anonymous
02/20/2019 18:12
Subject: FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spirit VA is having ID sessions on Saturday Feb 23rd at Lake Fairfax. Despite multiple team losses the players are friendly and work hard-nothing like what is being described at FCV. Parents are also kind and supportive. Take a look!
How very opportunistic of you.
By all means though, players should look at Loudoun ECNL, BRYC ECNL, Arlington DA, and McLean ECNL as well, depending on the logistics each family is willing to settle for.
We left FCV and I can tell you I haven't 'settled' for anything. I'm not raising a soccer player, I'm raising a woman - someone who is kind, strong and has self-respect. A fight at a soccer game is not my crowd.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 22:51
Subject: FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Spirit VA is having ID sessions on Saturday Feb 23rd at Lake Fairfax. Despite multiple team losses the players are friendly and work hard-nothing like what is being described at FCV. Parents are also kind and supportive. Take a look!
How very opportunistic of you.
By all means though, players should look at Loudoun ECNL, BRYC ECNL, Arlington DA, and McLean ECNL as well, depending on the logistics each family is willing to settle for.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 20:41
Subject: FCV DA thread
Spirit VA is having ID sessions on Saturday Feb 23rd at Lake Fairfax. Despite multiple team losses the players are friendly and work hard-nothing like what is being described at FCV. Parents are also kind and supportive. Take a look!
Anonymous
02/19/2019 20:18
Subject: FCV DA thread
Well a fish rots from the head down. The reason the team is this way is because the coaches breed a level of competition between the girls and families. And not in a good way. Anyone who has every played 1 season at FCV knows they only care about finding that 1 NT player. Everyone is very disposable, and their best players have come from other programs. The goals scorers on 04 and 05 are not FCV developed players. They've come from other programs. You FCVers all know what I'm saying.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 17:42
Subject: FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Hey all ... my daughter has played with FCV for many years. Some of what is said here is true, some of it is embellishment/exaggeration, and some is made up out of what I would call hate for the FCV brand (everyone is entitled to their opinion, trolly or not)
Yes, there was a disagreement between two specific parents that resulted in F-bombs and personal attacks that the rest of the team were mortified by. This is still being addressed.
The personal attacks and generalizations at the rest of the team by folks in this thread are no better than the accusations by the way. I have yet to see a perfect set of sideline parents with ANY team, and I’ve been around the regional scene for a decade now (and know many of the coaches/mgrs in VA and MD)
Yes, the FCV DA 05 group got their butts kicked first game.
No, the argument had nothing to do with that game. The group is strong enough and mature enough to recognize they were schooled. Sometimes, getting your butt kicked is exactly the lesson that is needed to get better. The real question is, how do the FCV DA 05 group respond?
No, there was no brawl, just a verbal argument, albeit enthusiastically dramatic (think I’ll coin that) with a touch of chest-thumping
The coaching comments are generally true anywhere you go. Whether people like it or not, the top team is always going to get the highest level of coaching. Theres only so much of the resource to go around. Show me an organization where this doesn’t happen, and I’ll show you an organization that has trouble attracting top talent
Its a shame that all of this BS has to go down with regards to competitive sports (this thread and the comments included), but it’s a predictable outcome with the competitive, A-type personalities involved at every level of the industry
Hope this gives some perspective.
You’re correct that the argument didn’t happen after the huge 7-0 loss on Saturday, it was after the 2-0 loss on Sunday. It was definitely an embarrassment for the club that 2 fathers would get into a physical and verbal altercation about how awful the others 13 year old daughter is. They had to be physically separated by other parents. Certainly doesn’t combat the “rumors” about the parents at FCV.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 16:59
Subject: Re:FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV is not the best club around. It has the best girls DA teams in NOVA, but the other teams (the non-DA teams at FCV) are typically not that good, with a few exceptions. They put their top coaching efforts into the DA teams almost exclusively.
They also are very willing to take money from parents who have kids that should not be playing travel soccer, and to swap out professional coaches for parent volunteers. Bordering on a fraudulent business practice. Their administration is also poor, bordering on comical.
Unless your daughter is good enough to play DA, or you just want her to play travel soccer, you live near Bles or Evergreen, and $2-3K a year is pocket change for you, I’d recommend staying away from FCV.
Interesting that an FCV DA thread was chosen to bask the non-DA parts of FCV. Not saying that you are right or wrong, but I comes across as silly to post this on this thread especially when you added in your message that FCV has the best DA teams in NOVA. I clicked because I thought I was going to read something that was relevant to the thread. But I was mistaken.
Yes, I did not explain fully. First of all - it is all the same club, so it is relevant. If you don't understand this, then you're naïve. FCV, currently, has the best (girls) DA teams in NOVA because they have the best players. They did this by combining with Loudoun last year for the DA program, then separating and taking many of the Loudoun players with them (yes, I know this also says something about Loudoun Soccer that many players left, but it also the allure of DA over ECNL). The way the club is being run however at the lower levels, with only focus on the DA teams will result in their talent drying out soon. Add to this the decision of WSVA to stay in the DA game, and WS pros taking Richie Burke from FCV and having FCV's owner (Christian C.) play an assistant role with WS pros, and crazy parents cussing each other out, it is only time until this program implodes or is gobbled up by another program. Maybe I will be wrong. We'll see. Again, I would NOT have my daughter at the younger ages (06 and younger) join this club, be it DA or other. Look to one of the other ECNL clubs in NOVA or WSVA DA.
I remember that Loudoun 05G Red team. Not a team I would've wanted my DD on based on the behavior I saw on the field and on the sidelines.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 16:28
Subject: FCV DA thread
Hey all ... my daughter has played with FCV for many years. Some of what is said here is true, some of it is embellishment/exaggeration, and some is made up out of what I would call hate for the FCV brand (everyone is entitled to their opinion, trolly or not)
Yes, there was a disagreement between two specific parents that resulted in F-bombs and personal attacks that the rest of the team were mortified by. This is still being addressed.
The personal attacks and generalizations at the rest of the team by folks in this thread are no better than the accusations by the way. I have yet to see a perfect set of sideline parents with ANY team, and I’ve been around the regional scene for a decade now (and know many of the coaches/mgrs in VA and MD)
Yes, the FCV DA 05 group got their butts kicked first game.
No, the argument had nothing to do with that game. The group is strong enough and mature enough to recognize they were schooled. Sometimes, getting your butt kicked is exactly the lesson that is needed to get better. The real question is, how do the FCV DA 05 group respond?
No, there was no brawl, just a verbal argument, albeit enthusiastically dramatic (think I’ll coin that) with a touch of chest-thumping
The coaching comments are generally true anywhere you go. Whether people like it or not, the top team is always going to get the highest level of coaching. Theres only so much of the resource to go around. Show me an organization where this doesn’t happen, and I’ll show you an organization that has trouble attracting top talent
Its a shame that all of this BS has to go down with regards to competitive sports (this thread and the comments included), but it’s a predictable outcome with the competitive, A-type personalities involved at every level of the industry
Hope this gives some perspective.
Yes, there was a disagreement between two specific parents that resulted in F-bombs and personal attacks that the rest of the team were mortified by. This is still being addressed.
The personal attacks and generalizations at the rest of the team by folks in this thread are no better than the accusations by the way. I have yet to see a perfect set of sideline parents with ANY team, and I’ve been around the regional scene for a decade now (and know many of the coaches/mgrs in VA and MD)
Yes, the FCV DA 05 group got their butts kicked first game.
No, the argument had nothing to do with that game. The group is strong enough and mature enough to recognize they were schooled. Sometimes, getting your butt kicked is exactly the lesson that is needed to get better. The real question is, how do the FCV DA 05 group respond?
No, there was no brawl, just a verbal argument, albeit enthusiastically dramatic (think I’ll coin that) with a touch of chest-thumping
The coaching comments are generally true anywhere you go. Whether people like it or not, the top team is always going to get the highest level of coaching. Theres only so much of the resource to go around. Show me an organization where this doesn’t happen, and I’ll show you an organization that has trouble attracting top talent
Its a shame that all of this BS has to go down with regards to competitive sports (this thread and the comments included), but it’s a predictable outcome with the competitive, A-type personalities involved at every level of the industry
Hope this gives some perspective.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 16:27
Subject: Re:FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV is not the best club around. It has the best girls DA teams in NOVA, but the other teams (the non-DA teams at FCV) are typically not that good, with a few exceptions. They put their top coaching efforts into the DA teams almost exclusively.
They also are very willing to take money from parents who have kids that should not be playing travel soccer, and to swap out professional coaches for parent volunteers. Bordering on a fraudulent business practice. Their administration is also poor, bordering on comical.
Unless your daughter is good enough to play DA, or you just want her to play travel soccer, you live near Bles or Evergreen, and $2-3K a year is pocket change for you, I’d recommend staying away from FCV.
Interesting that an FCV DA thread was chosen to bask the non-DA parts of FCV. Not saying that you are right or wrong, but I comes across as silly to post this on this thread especially when you added in your message that FCV has the best DA teams in NOVA. I clicked because I thought I was going to read something that was relevant to the thread. But I was mistaken.
Yes, I did not explain fully. First of all - it is all the same club, so it is relevant. If you don't understand this, then you're naïve. FCV, currently, has the best (girls) DA teams in NOVA because they have the best players. They did this by combining with Loudoun last year for the DA program, then separating and taking many of the Loudoun players with them (yes, I know this also says something about Loudoun Soccer that many players left, but it also the allure of DA over ECNL). The way the club is being run however at the lower levels, with only focus on the DA teams will result in their talent drying out soon. Add to this the decision of WSVA to stay in the DA game, and WS pros taking Richie Burke from FCV and having FCV's owner (Christian C.) play an assistant role with WS pros, and crazy parents cussing each other out, it is only time until this program implodes or is gobbled up by another program. Maybe I will be wrong. We'll see. Again, I would NOT have my daughter at the younger ages (06 and younger) join this club, be it DA or other. Look to one of the other ECNL clubs in NOVA or WSVA DA.
This is a strange take.
First, older NPL teams at FCV are weak because there are many talented kids in the club who do not make the DA team for whatever reason. Just because they didn’t make FCV’s DA does not mean they shouldn’t play on another DA or ECNL team. And so they leave.
Second, I don’t understand the connection with Christian and Richie coaching the pro team means anything regarding FCV. I can’t think of a more temporary job than NWSL coach.
There has always been the perception that the lower levels at FCV were failing as a true feeder and in theory should be stronger given the quality of the older programs (ECNL and now DA.) At the younger ages, there are 1-2 teams max at the U-littles as compared to 5+ at Loudoun, inability to even field a U9 team last year so the U9s played U10 as new players, etc. The coaching staff definitely seems to pick a particular team or age group and focus a lot of attention on it. If your child is in that favored group, you are likely happy and so is he/she, if not, then you are frustrated and seek other options.
Not sure that Christian and Richie's involvement with Spirit will have any impact on the FCV DA. Loudoun now having ECNL (and this is the first year that ECNL is a known option for Loudoun players) is likely to have a much bigger impact. From what we've heard, there were not a lot of Loudoun players at FCV ID sessions while in past years there have been.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 16:21
Subject: Re:FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV is not the best club around. It has the best girls DA teams in NOVA, but the other teams (the non-DA teams at FCV) are typically not that good, with a few exceptions. They put their top coaching efforts into the DA teams almost exclusively.
They also are very willing to take money from parents who have kids that should not be playing travel soccer, and to swap out professional coaches for parent volunteers. Bordering on a fraudulent business practice. Their administration is also poor, bordering on comical.
Unless your daughter is good enough to play DA, or you just want her to play travel soccer, you live near Bles or Evergreen, and $2-3K a year is pocket change for you, I’d recommend staying away from FCV.
Interesting that an FCV DA thread was chosen to bask the non-DA parts of FCV. Not saying that you are right or wrong, but I comes across as silly to post this on this thread especially when you added in your message that FCV has the best DA teams in NOVA. I clicked because I thought I was going to read something that was relevant to the thread. But I was mistaken.
Yes, I did not explain fully. First of all - it is all the same club, so it is relevant. If you don't understand this, then you're naïve. FCV, currently, has the best (girls) DA teams in NOVA because they have the best players. They did this by combining with Loudoun last year for the DA program, then separating and taking many of the Loudoun players with them (yes, I know this also says something about Loudoun Soccer that many players left, but it also the allure of DA over ECNL). The way the club is being run however at the lower levels, with only focus on the DA teams will result in their talent drying out soon. Add to this the decision of WSVA to stay in the DA game, and WS pros taking Richie Burke from FCV and having FCV's owner (Christian C.) play an assistant role with WS pros, and crazy parents cussing each other out, it is only time until this program implodes or is gobbled up by another program. Maybe I will be wrong. We'll see. Again, I would NOT have my daughter at the younger ages (06 and younger) join this club, be it DA or other. Look to one of the other ECNL clubs in NOVA or WSVA DA.
This is a strange take.
First, older NPL teams at FCV are weak because there are many talented kids in the club who do not make the DA team for whatever reason. Just because they didn’t make FCV’s DA does not mean they shouldn’t play on another DA or ECNL team. And so they leave.
Second, I don’t understand the connection with Christian and Richie coaching the pro team means anything regarding FCV. I can’t think of a more temporary job than NWSL coach.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 16:10
Subject: Re:FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCV is not the best club around. It has the best girls DA teams in NOVA, but the other teams (the non-DA teams at FCV) are typically not that good, with a few exceptions. They put their top coaching efforts into the DA teams almost exclusively.
They also are very willing to take money from parents who have kids that should not be playing travel soccer, and to swap out professional coaches for parent volunteers. Bordering on a fraudulent business practice. Their administration is also poor, bordering on comical.
Unless your daughter is good enough to play DA, or you just want her to play travel soccer, you live near Bles or Evergreen, and $2-3K a year is pocket change for you, I’d recommend staying away from FCV.
Interesting that an FCV DA thread was chosen to bask the non-DA parts of FCV. Not saying that you are right or wrong, but I comes across as silly to post this on this thread especially when you added in your message that FCV has the best DA teams in NOVA. I clicked because I thought I was going to read something that was relevant to the thread. But I was mistaken.
Yes, I did not explain fully. First of all - it is all the same club, so it is relevant. If you don't understand this, then you're naïve. FCV, currently, has the best (girls) DA teams in NOVA because they have the best players. They did this by combining with Loudoun last year for the DA program, then separating and taking many of the Loudoun players with them (yes, I know this also says something about Loudoun Soccer that many players left, but it also the allure of DA over ECNL). The way the club is being run however at the lower levels, with only focus on the DA teams will result in their talent drying out soon. Add to this the decision of WSVA to stay in the DA game, and WS pros taking Richie Burke from FCV and having FCV's owner (Christian C.) play an assistant role with WS pros, and crazy parents cussing each other out, it is only time until this program implodes or is gobbled up by another program. Maybe I will be wrong. We'll see. Again, I would NOT have my daughter at the younger ages (06 and younger) join this club, be it DA or other. Look to one of the other ECNL clubs in NOVA or WSVA DA.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 13:53
Subject: FCV DA thread
Wonder if the college coaches saw this drama? Good way to have the whole team written off the recruiting list when parents act like that. No college coach wants that headache.
Anonymous
02/19/2019 13:50
Subject: FCV DA thread
Anonymous wrote:Its true. This is the worst, but not the first time this group has gotten into it on the sidelines. In the past its been vs the other team. This time the parents created a huge scene because they were yelling and cursing at each another blaming each other’s kids. They were yelling ‘f*** you. Your kid sucks and that’s why we lost’ ‘your kid won’t even make the team next year’ and other curse words. They went back and forth for 10 minutes and other parents from their team had to pull them away. This was on the sideline a few minutes after the game ended. That's why some of these teams are so toxic. This is what they hear at home so that's how they treat their 'teammates".... I mean the other girls who are also on the team.
OMG!
I have had talks with my 10-year old son when he gets in the car and starts blaming teammates. We don't do that. My husband and I also don't talk about his teammates in front of him or his older brother.
These are 40-something parents yelling about 12/13 year old girls. They should all be forever banned from the sidelines.