Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madonna moved to Portugal so her about to turn 13-year old soccer fanatic son, David, who wants to play professionally could train there. She is quoted as saying that the level of soccer in America is much lower than in the rest of the world. They are in Lisbon.

Damn, even Madonna has it figured out.

So the secret to U.S. soccer development isn't reaching out to underserved communities. Instead, it's to be wealthy beyond imagination so you can live wherever you want?

Hit the nail on the head with reaching out to underserved communities. That's exactly what needs to happen.
Change is in the air:
https://ussoccerfoundation.org/blog/post/something-is-changing-in-soccer--something-for-the-better-
The point missed in the USF blog post is that the future world-class US players will likely come from this pool of underserved communities.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madonna moved to Portugal so her about to turn 13-year old soccer fanatic son, David, who wants to play professionally could train there. She is quoted as saying that the level of soccer in America is much lower than in the rest of the world. They are in Lisbon.

Damn, even Madonna has it figured out.

So the secret to U.S. soccer development isn't reaching out to underserved communities. Instead, it's to be wealthy beyond imagination so you can live wherever you want?

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madonna moved to Portugal so her about to turn 13-year old soccer fanatic son, David, who wants to play professionally could train there. She is quoted as saying that the level of soccer in America is much lower than in the rest of the world. They are in Lisbon.

Damn, even Madonna has it figured out.

So the secret to U.S. soccer development isn't reaching out to underserved communities. Instead, it's to be wealthy beyond imagination so you can live wherever you want?

Yes. Because it’s pay-to-play here and it’s never going to change. So, barring having a Croatian passport like Pulisic—get a rich superstar parent.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Madonna moved to Portugal so her about to turn 13-year old soccer fanatic son, David, who wants to play professionally could train there. She is quoted as saying that the level of soccer in America is much lower than in the rest of the world. They are in Lisbon.

Damn, even Madonna has it figured out.

So the secret to U.S. soccer development isn't reaching out to underserved communities. Instead, it's to be wealthy beyond imagination so you can live wherever you want?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An American married to Johan Cruyff’s daughter who runs the prestigious TOVO academy in Barcelona. He predicted Spain ranked 20th eclipsing US women. US women have more registered female soccer players than the entire planet combined. California alone has more players than Spain...and it’s happened.

As he said US women’s “fragile advantage in athleticism will wilt in the face of intelligence”.

We still have people denying anything is wrong. With those shocking numbers—our absolute glut of female soccer players compared to the rest of the entire World—it’s a crying shame. Same losers are running the women’s program and they have the numbers the men don’t have because they aren’t competing with Football, Baseball, Basketball. What is the women’s excuse?!?!?!!!

Oh yea, let’s blame it on the parents.

F@ck you Youth Soccer Federation. YOU are the problem, not parents. You built this myth and preyed on people unfamiliar with the sport.

I always knew you were a piece of sh@t because I grew up in a soccer household trained by the Dutch. I don’t put my kids in the system. They also trained privately for a good portion of youth until now as teens as we turned our back on the shitty travel system. But, how is your average American supposed to know you are selling a bag of lies?

I am writing my letter to the author of that article now. How dare you blame parents..and f@ck you too Hope Solo. You whiny loser, bad sport saying Sweden didn’t play pretty like you after your loss to them in the Olympics. Go beat down your nephew again.

I think you think that soccer is more important in the US than it actually is.

Soccer is a little kids sport in the US.

It is for parents of toddlers and preschoolers that want pictures to post on social media.

It is for elementary kids whose parents want to say they are on a travel team.

Soccer is a recreational sport in the US, targeted towards kids. Period.

Soccer is not a sport for older kids or a sport that people are interested in watching at the pro level.

Soccer fills an important niche as a kids sport.

That is fine PP.

Soccer is a sport you move on from as you get older, not a sport you move into or stick with.

Y’all are high. Soccer is for life

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An American married to Johan Cruyff’s daughter who runs the prestigious TOVO academy in Barcelona. He predicted Spain ranked 20th eclipsing US women. US women have more registered female soccer players than the entire planet combined. California alone has more players than Spain...and it’s happened.

As he said US women’s “fragile advantage in athleticism will wilt in the face of intelligence”.

We still have people denying anything is wrong. With those shocking numbers—our absolute glut of female soccer players compared to the rest of the entire World—it’s a crying shame. Same losers are running the women’s program and they have the numbers the men don’t have because they aren’t competing with Football, Baseball, Basketball. What is the women’s excuse?!?!?!!!

Oh yea, let’s blame it on the parents.

F@ck you Youth Soccer Federation. YOU are the problem, not parents. You built this myth and preyed on people unfamiliar with the sport.

I always knew you were a piece of sh@t because I grew up in a soccer household trained by the Dutch. I don’t put my kids in the system. They also trained privately for a good portion of youth until now as teens as we turned our back on the shitty travel system. But, how is your average American supposed to know you are selling a bag of lies?

I am writing my letter to the author of that article now. How dare you blame parents..and f@ck you too Hope Solo. You whiny loser, bad sport saying Sweden didn’t play pretty like you after your loss to them in the Olympics. Go beat down your nephew again.

I think you think that soccer is more important in the US than it actually is.

Soccer is a little kids sport in the US.

It is for parents of toddlers and preschoolers that want pictures to post on social media.

It is for elementary kids whose parents want to say they are on a travel team.

Soccer is a recreational sport in the US, targeted towards kids. Period.

Soccer is not a sport for older kids or a sport that people are interested in watching at the pro level.

Soccer fills an important niche as a kids sport.

That is fine PP.

Soccer is a sport you move on from as you get older, not a sport you move into or stick with.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dominance by any country in a sport will eventually diminish as more people around the world participate. Look at baseball and basketball which used to be US dominated but now draw significant players from other countries. Women’s soccer should be no different. Interestingly men’s soccer is the reverse. More US players going to play in Europe is inevitable. Just like the NBA and MLB are still the premier leagues, but there are more non-US players in these leagues, so too European soccer leagues will always be the top where US players can aspire. Nothing wrong with being a feeder system for other countries the way other countries have done in sports that are more niche in their own countries

Exactly--thank you for making an intelligent contribution to this bizarre thread.

Yes. But most Americans don’t have a foreign passport or means to train and play in Europe during the critical years so they rely on aUS soccer to develop them and that’s where we fail.

The American males succeeding have dual citizenship and are being raised in Europe or go over to play by at least 16.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dominance by any country in a sport will eventually diminish as more people around the world participate. Look at baseball and basketball which used to be US dominated but now draw significant players from other countries. Women’s soccer should be no different. Interestingly men’s soccer is the reverse. More US players going to play in Europe is inevitable. Just like the NBA and MLB are still the premier leagues, but there are more non-US players in these leagues, so too European soccer leagues will always be the top where US players can aspire. Nothing wrong with being a feeder system for other countries the way other countries have done in sports that are more niche in their own countries

Exactly--thank you for making an intelligent contribution to this bizarre thread.

Anonymous wrote:Dominance by any country in a sport will eventually diminish as more people around the world participate. Look at baseball and basketball which used to be US dominated but now draw significant players from other countries. Women’s soccer should be no different. Interestingly men’s soccer is the reverse. More US players going to play in Europe is inevitable. Just like the NBA and MLB are still the premier leagues, but there are more non-US players in these leagues, so too European soccer leagues will always be the top where US players can aspire. Nothing wrong with being a feeder system for other countries the way other countries have done in sports that are more niche in their own countries