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Anonymous wrote:It’s jealousy.

Maybe it is.

But that’s the part I don’t get. Why he jealous of something nearly everyone can have if they wanted to? That’s like the automotive equivalent of being jealous of someone with a cup of coffee.

Anonymous wrote:It’s jealousy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really can’t fathom all the hate for Wranglers and Wrangler drivers.

Makes absolutely zero sense to me. They’re a fun, not-serious, no frills vehicle that’s pretty much accessible to anyone. What’s wrong with that?


I don’t get the hate?

They might've been accessible to anyone at one point, but they start at almost $30,000 these days and a quick perusal of Autotrader shows that there's not really much of a discount for used models: here's a 2013 with 78k miles for nearly $24,000, and [url=https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=582826973&allListingType=all-cars&zip=20002&makeCodeList=JEEP&modelCodeList=WRANGLER&state=DC&city=Washington&dma=&searchRadius=50&isNewSearch=false&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fall-cars%3Fzip%3D20002%26makeCodeList%3DJEEP%26modelCodeList%3DWRANGLER&clickType=listing]here's a 2010 with 146,000 miles for 17k[/u].

And for what it's worth, I don't hate Wranglers (or their drivers), but I'm definitely perplexed because the price to value ratio is so out of whack.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really can’t fathom all the hate for Wranglers and Wrangler drivers.

Makes absolutely zero sense to me. They’re a fun, not-serious, no frills vehicle that’s pretty much accessible to anyone. What’s wrong with that?


I don’t get the hate?

They might've been accessible to anyone at one point, but they start at almost $30,000 these days and a quick perusal of Autotrader shows that there's not really much of a discount for used models: here's a 2013 with 78k miles for nearly $24,000, and [url=https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=582826973&allListingType=all-cars&zip=20002&makeCodeList=JEEP&modelCodeList=WRANGLER&state=DC&city=Washington&dma=&searchRadius=50&isNewSearch=false&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fall-cars%3Fzip%3D20002%26makeCodeList%3DJEEP%26modelCodeList%3DWRANGLER&clickType=listing]here's a 2010 with 146,000 miles for 17k[/u].

And for what it's worth, I don't hate Wranglers (or their drivers), but I'm definitely perplexed because the price to value ratio is so out of whack.

I think they're cool. In recent years, I've looked up their prices -- new and used -- and decided that they're not a good value for me but they're obviously extremely popular and other folks calculate the cost/value tradeoffs differently. What I'm wondering is how much of a chunk of the market the new Bronco is going to take from Wrangler.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's always one guy in his 40s or 50s at the country club who wears Nike hat, red Nike shirt, black slacks, Nike golf shoes.

He thinks he looks so hip surrounded by stuffy conservative guys acting their age.

That's what a Wrangler driver older than 25 looks like.

I don't know anyone under 25 who could afford a new Wrangler. At 25 I was still in residency and making the equivalent of about $40k today. And no one making $40k a year is buying a $45k Jeep.

You kinda suck at this.

Well, the avg new car price is nearly $36K -- any kid coming out of university with a ~ $60K salary can afford a Wrangler lease payment. But most teens and 20-something get one from their parents for free.

There's not too many kids getting out of college and walking into a $60k job. Not in trump's economy. Those days are o-v-e-r, over.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really can’t fathom all the hate for Wranglers and Wrangler drivers.

Makes absolutely zero sense to me. They’re a fun, not-serious, no frills vehicle that’s pretty much accessible to anyone. What’s wrong with that?


I don’t get the hate?

They might've been accessible to anyone at one point, but they start at almost $30,000 these days and a quick perusal of Autotrader shows that there's not really much of a discount for used models: here's a 2013 with 78k miles for nearly $24,000, and [url=https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=582826973&allListingType=all-cars&zip=20002&makeCodeList=JEEP&modelCodeList=WRANGLER&state=DC&city=Washington&dma=&searchRadius=50&isNewSearch=false&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fall-cars%3Fzip%3D20002%26makeCodeList%3DJEEP%26modelCodeList%3DWRANGLER&clickType=listing]here's a 2010 with 146,000 miles for 17k[/u].

And for what it's worth, I don't hate Wranglers (or their drivers), but I'm definitely perplexed because the price to value ratio is so out of whack.

Anonymous wrote:I really can’t fathom all the hate for Wranglers and Wrangler drivers.

Makes absolutely zero sense to me. They’re a fun, not-serious, no frills vehicle that’s pretty much accessible to anyone. What’s wrong with that?


I don’t get the hate?

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Anonymous wrote:Any hip cachet they had is gone with the plethora of 40-something hags and douchecanoes I see in them now. It's cool if you're a 17yo boy, but past your mid 20s in one makes you look desperate to cling to some youth. Grow up.

Btw the all-new model has been out since last year. So idk why the person a few pages back said they're waiting on it still.

You can keep one foot in the grave but for the rest of us, life is too short to drive boring cars.

Do you blast Fleetwood Mac from your hip car or do you try to look young by memorizing all the latest Bruno Mars songs? LOL

Anonymous wrote:For me it only makes sense to get an original wrangler with standard shift / soft top / roll up windows and no electronics other than radio and a/c.

The primitive wrangler has charm and is a very enjoyable driving experience. Great for the beach since you can drop the top and just throw anything in. Just pull the floor plugs and hose out the sand when it gets too bad.

I taught all my kids stick shift on a jeep and they used it at college. I will keep restoring it forever because it's got memories.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's always one guy in his 40s or 50s at the country club who wears Nike hat, red Nike shirt, black slacks, Nike golf shoes.

He thinks he looks so hip surrounded by stuffy conservative guys acting their age.

That's what a Wrangler driver older than 25 looks like.

I don't know anyone under 25 who could afford a new Wrangler. At 25 I was still in residency and making the equivalent of about $40k today. And no one making $40k a year is buying a $45k Jeep.

You kinda suck at this.

Well, the avg new car price is nearly $36K -- any kid coming out of university with a ~ $60K salary can afford a Wrangler lease payment. But most teens and 20-something get one from their parents for free.