Anonymous
07/21/2018 08:20
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^It is not trolling to state a simple fact: you can remove earrings, but not the holes/scars left behind by piercing.
Ok, so whatever, you may be able to see them. The kid will also likely have various scars, etc. If they are that hung up on holes left from piercings as opposed to anything else, they have bigger issues.
Are you one of the posters who won't cut her kid's hair or fingernails or vaccinate them because that "violates their bodily integrity" and they can't consent?
No, I'm not. But keep reassuring yourself that only extreme/crazy people think it's unwise to pierce someone's ears--a totally unnecessary and purely decorative/sex-specific thing to do--before they are old enough to to want that for themselves.
I think this is an issue on which reasonable people may disagree in good faith. Yes?
Anonymous
07/21/2018 07:42
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^It is not trolling to state a simple fact: you can remove earrings, but not the holes/scars left behind by piercing.
Ok, so whatever, you may be able to see them. The kid will also likely have various scars, etc. If they are that hung up on holes left from piercings as opposed to anything else, they have bigger issues.
Are you one of the posters who won't cut her kid's hair or fingernails or vaccinate them because that "violates their bodily integrity" and they can't consent?
No, I'm not. But keep reassuring yourself that only extreme/crazy people think it's unwise to pierce someone's ears--a totally unnecessary and purely decorative/sex-specific thing to do--before they are old enough to to want that for themselves.
Anonymous
07/21/2018 07:03
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s very common in many cultures. African, middle eastern, south Asian, and some Asian.
It’s just not very common among whole people.
So when someone says it’s trashy, I just think they don’t like what brown people do.
What do you mean by "whole" people?
Is that some new culture reference?
Obviously they meant white people. Typo
Well, then they are wrong. I am Italian and we do this.
Anonymous
07/21/2018 06:49
Subject: Re:Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Body mutilation should be done with consent of the person getting it. A baby cannot give consent.
Agreed. Same goes for circumcision.
Circumcision is more invasive, and I'm sure many of the people saying ear piercing is mutilation had no problem with circumcising their sons.
Anonymous
07/20/2018 22:07
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:^^It is not trolling to state a simple fact: you can remove earrings, but not the holes/scars left behind by piercing.
Ok, so whatever, you may be able to see them. The kid will also likely have various scars, etc. If they are that hung up on holes left from piercings as opposed to anything else, they have bigger issues.
Are you one of the posters who won't cut her kid's hair or fingernails or vaccinate them because that "violates their bodily integrity" and they can't consent?
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:53
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
It occurs in certain cultures more than others. My Hispanic friends pierce their baby’s ears. I don’t like the look and would never do it to my kid, but to each her own.
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:47
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^It is not trolling to state a simple fact: you can remove earrings, but not the holes/scars left behind by piercing.
I suppose if you incline to keloid scars, they might be noticeable. Or if you used ear gauges. But generally they're not.
I got a second piercing in my ear that I immediately regretted. I’m 38 now and to this day, you can see a mark. My cousin has a similar scar from a 3rd piercing she got and didn’t like when she was in college—she’s now 40.
Third piercings go into the cartilage, don't they? That would be different.
My second was in the soft part of the lobe, just above my first. Only wore earrings there for two years. You can still see a scar 15 years later. -np
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:43
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^It is not trolling to state a simple fact: you can remove earrings, but not the holes/scars left behind by piercing.
I suppose if you incline to keloid scars, they might be noticeable. Or if you used ear gauges. But generally they're not.
I got a second piercing in my ear that I immediately regretted. I’m 38 now and to this day, you can see a mark. My cousin has a similar scar from a 3rd piercing she got and didn’t like when she was in college—she’s now 40.
Third piercings go into the cartilage, don't they? That would be different.
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:43
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m curious, too OP.
I had mine pierced at 13, and my three girls are all desperate to have theirs pierced earlier.
I’ll be the one to say: it’s trashy to pierce babies’ ears.
I never get this. You guys keep saying it, but no one ever has a good answer as to why its trashy. SO I think it's trashy to attach that thought to someone's baby.
Yes, and I think it's trashy to call people (of any age) trashy.
Now, back to why people pierce babies' ears.
Particularly calling a baby trashy? That's trashy.
"it’s trashy to pierce babies’ ears." Where does it say that the baby is trashy or even the parent?
Well, the ears aren't piercing themselves, on their own accord. Somebody's making the decision to do it.
If I said, "It's immoral to murder people," would you ask, "Where does it say that people who commit murder are immoral?"
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:36
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m curious, too OP.
I had mine pierced at 13, and my three girls are all desperate to have theirs pierced earlier.
I’ll be the one to say: it’s trashy to pierce babies’ ears.
I never get this. You guys keep saying it, but no one ever has a good answer as to why its trashy. SO I think it's trashy to attach that thought to someone's baby.
Yes, and I think it's trashy to call people (of any age) trashy.
Now, back to why people pierce babies' ears.
Particularly calling a baby trashy? That's trashy.
"it’s trashy to pierce babies’ ears." Where does it say that the baby is trashy or even the parent?
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:24
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^It is not trolling to state a simple fact: you can remove earrings, but not the holes/scars left behind by piercing.
I suppose if you incline to keloid scars, they might be noticeable. Or if you used ear gauges. But generally they're not.
I got a second piercing in my ear that I immediately regretted. I’m 38 now and to this day, you can see a mark. My cousin has a similar scar from a 3rd piercing she got and didn’t like when she was in college—she’s now 40.
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:22
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Among US whites, it’s much more common in the south. I always assumed that’s why higher income northerners call it “trashy.”
Lower socioeconomic whites do it.
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:20
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:^^It is not trolling to state a simple fact: you can remove earrings, but not the holes/scars left behind by piercing.
I suppose if you incline to keloid scars, they might be noticeable. Or if you used ear gauges. But generally they're not.
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:10
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
^^It is not trolling to state a simple fact: you can remove earrings, but not the holes/scars left behind by piercing.
Anonymous
07/20/2018 21:05
Subject: Cultural meaning of baby/child ear piercing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Completely aside from whatever cultural thing is going on, I honestly think that piercing a young baby's ears is practically easier than when we got my DD's ears pierced for her 7th birthday at her request. If she had been 2 months, she wouldn't have been rolling, wouldn't have had hair to get tangled in anything, and would have been fine with me cleaning them. When she was 7, all that stuff was an issue. I strongly considered piercing our second DD's ears for that reason, but DH was against it.
Your examples are exactly why we chose earlier. She had no clue they were even there at 3mo. Cleaning was a breeze. She never touched them once.
So...what about the girls who grow up and DON'T want that? My SIL was literally stuffed and forced into dresses. She hates the outward trappings/signs of femininity, and never got her ears pierced. Why is whether or not your baby daughter would actually WANT pierced ears when she's old enough to know the difference not even a factor in these decisions?!
Oh well. She can take them out.
Will she also be mad I let her eat meat, take Tylenol, use tampons. I don’t know what to tell you.
If she has true lasting issues with these things, the problem is bigger than earrings and vegetarianism.
You can take out the earrings, but not the holes/marks left behind.
Get over yourself.
Sorry if you don’t like the truth.
PP, stop trolling.