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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

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Anonymous wrote:I am loathe to put all my eggs in the:

-Trump can’t win
-the GOP will never win another presidency
-we will be kept from a Trump/old white guy president by a wall of brown voters

Basket after November 2016. It’s quite foolish to do so. Be the right left or center, the data just isn’t there. For anyone.

I was watching the “new” type of exit poll early in the afternoon of the election and they basically had Clinton brutalizing Trump. They were wrong to the extreme. I vowed after she lost to stop putting stock in such things.

Nothing is reliable.

I hear you, but:
The RNC internal polling showed the same. So which seems more likely: both polls being so, so incredibly off that Donald won the swing states he absolutely needed to win by mere fractions just outside the required recount amount or that Putin’s hack was of the vote, too, and not just of voter rolls. It beggars belief that they did all that, had stolen DNC analytics and didn’t just make sure that their candidate won.

But you are right that we’re in the twilight zone in which the GOP has gone lock stock and smoking traitor. My idiot GOP representative (whom I did not vote for) voted down the increased election security funding for the states. I’m surprised they managed to scrape up enough traitor GOP Senate go to get a bipartisan vote that McFaul et all wouldn’t be sent to Russia for “questioning.”

I have not seen any credible information that any votes were cast by Putin or his people or any votes changed.

I live in the real world as you should also.

We are going to ride a losing horse into tinfoil land.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

Have you read this whole thread? There is a lot of information, and links to more information, about how Trump’s popularity is down in every single state, not just California and New York.

Anonymous wrote:Are they meaningful and true? It’s wishful thinking to me. I can’t believe people will not vote for him again based on polls and information that was 100% wrong before 2016.

Over and over we were told he had no chance, he’d never be president, etc. To sickening heights. It’s like Lucy and Charlie Brown and the football, to infinity. I don’t believe popular wisdom and the party line anymore.

Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

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Anonymous wrote:People who voted for Trump, in my experience, tend to be passionate single issue voters. They may be really intelligent and educated. These are not people who are interested in the broader picture, and they will never vote for a Democrat, no matter how vile the R candidate is. The issue could be abortion, taxes, the Middle East, whatever it is, it’s life and death to them. There is no nuance, no forward thinking.

You are very very narrow-minded and never talked to any people who voted for Trump.

Anonymous wrote:People who voted for Trump, in my experience, tend to be passionate single issue voters. They may be really intelligent and educated. These are not people who are interested in the broader picture, and they will never vote for a Democrat, no matter how vile the R candidate is. The issue could be abortion, taxes, the Middle East, whatever it is, it’s life and death to them. There is no nuance, no forward thinking.

Anonymous wrote:Proud of all the blacks , Hispanics am milennials that are turning to Trump!!


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/684898002


Trump hasn't even begun his rallys. They start in September in swing states and will focus on illegal immigration.

There will be leftist violence after this bitter defeat.

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Anonymous wrote:Why be nice to them, OP? You hate them anyway. And they're smart enough to see through the phony sincerity. They know that even though they might be having buyers remorse about their vote, they also know people like you will never forgive or accept them. So why are you bothering to be nice to them? Just tell them efff-off like you want to.

Maybe some are so embarrassed and dug in, that they will outwardly support Trump until they walk into the voters booth -- then quietly not vote for him a 2nd time.

I think the opposite. They are tired of being told eff-off, as the first PP pointed out, so they will outwardly disapprove of Trump until they walk into the voting booth, and then quietly vote for him a 2nd time.

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Anonymous wrote:Why be nice to them, OP? You hate them anyway. And they're smart enough to see through the phony sincerity. They know that even though they might be having buyers remorse about their vote, they also know people like you will never forgive or accept them. So why are you bothering to be nice to them? Just tell them efff-off like you want to.

Maybe some are so embarrassed and dug in, that they will outwardly support Trump until they walk into the voters booth -- then quietly not vote for him a 2nd time.

Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.