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Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.

Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.

Bryce? "Made up?" Only in the sense that all names are made up.

It's an old Scottish/Gaelic name. Lots of pro sports players, an award-winning Australian novelist, a former chairman/CEO of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, an United States Air Force four-star general.

Totally disagree, the weird / made up white names with Ys are low class and judged that way. People comment on the Aydins Kaydens Rhys Jayce etc they just don't say it to your face.

Rhys is a classic Welsh name. A Rhys fought with Henry Tudor at Bosworth Field. It is funny that people who know so very little think they are in a position to judge others as low class.

Creative spellings, on the other hand, are stupid. If you want to name your kid Aidan (a fine Celtic name dating to the Middle Ages) spell it Aidan, not Aydin.

OK, I'm going to stop you right there. (NP) Please don't use this example. If you knew ANYTHING about Tudor history, you'd know that Henry Tudor and his uncle, Jasper Tudor, were Welsh quasi-noblemen who only had a very tangential claim to the throne. And their entire army was literally made up of ruffians--Welsh farmers and hired French mercenaries--as in they literally drained the jails to build their army. So please don't say that Rhys is some noble name based on the fact that a Rhys fought with Henry Tudor. Please stop reading Philippa Gregory novels and then pretending like you have a true grasp on history.

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Anonymous wrote:I respect legitimate cultural names, including names that are most prevalent in the African American community. I do my absolute best to pronounce them correctly, and am mortified if I get someone's name wrong, either via pronunciation or spelling.

But I don't care who you are or where you come from--if you're rolling in with a stupid name, I'm judging you. I'm looking at you, Maverick.

But why judge the kid or the person for a name they didnt choose?

This. +1000. I can judge the parent who gave the name (though even then, I want to have some sympathy for the welfare mom for whom the name of their kid was one of the few things they saw as in their power) but I strive to never judge the child for it.

I don't think OP is asking about judging the child, but about making assumptions about the child's upbringing.

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Anonymous wrote:I respect legitimate cultural names, including names that are most prevalent in the African American community. I do my absolute best to pronounce them correctly, and am mortified if I get someone's name wrong, either via pronunciation or spelling.

But I don't care who you are or where you come from--if you're rolling in with a stupid name, I'm judging you. I'm looking at you, Maverick.

But why judge the kid or the person for a name they didnt choose?

This. +1000. I can judge the parent who gave the name (though even then, I want to have some sympathy for the welfare mom for whom the name of their kid was one of the few things they saw as in their power) but I strive to never judge the child for it.

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Anonymous wrote:I respect legitimate cultural names, including names that are most prevalent in the African American community. I do my absolute best to pronounce them correctly, and am mortified if I get someone's name wrong, either via pronunciation or spelling.

But I don't care who you are or where you come from--if you're rolling in with a stupid name, I'm judging you. I'm looking at you, Maverick.

But why judge the kid or the person for a name they didnt choose?

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.

Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.

Bryce? "Made up?" Only in the sense that all names are made up.

It's an old Scottish/Gaelic name. Lots of pro sports players, an award-winning Australian novelist, a former chairman/CEO of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, an United States Air Force four-star general.

Totally disagree, the weird / made up white names with Ys are low class and judged that way. People comment on the Aydins Kaydens Rhys Jayce etc they just don't say it to your face.

Rhys is a classic Welsh name. A Rhys fought with Henry Tudor at Bosworth Field. It is funny that people who know so very little think they are in a position to judge others as low class.

Creative spellings, on the other hand, are stupid. If you want to name your kid Aidan (a fine Celtic name dating to the Middle Ages) spell it Aidan, not Aydin.

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Anonymous wrote:I try to never mispronounce ANYONE's name, regardless of race. I may think "Oh you poor thing" when I meet a black girl named Dy'mond Kulture but would never say anything to a child. If I were close friends with Dy'mond and she brought up her name, I might ask if she's ever thought of having it legally changed.

I work in HR and recruiting and don't judge based on name. I judge based on eye contact, fit of clothing (not brands, but are the pants sagging, are b**bs showing), mumbling, etc. THOSE are the things that tell me DeMarcus has eaten fast food for dinner and regularly had the electricity turned off and many "fathers" traipsed through his apartment.

So does that person have no chance? That seems heartless.

If we're interviewing six people for one position and one guy is wearing pants sagging so low that I see his underwear and he doesn't make eye contact and mumbles so much I have to ask him to repeat himself, but five other people don't do any of those things then yes, that ONE guy doesn't have a chance. We are trying to hire people who will be productive at work, and help the company and thrive here. If the guy can't take a few minutes to go to the free library and use free internet to google interview tips, then no, we're not hiring that person.

We have hired people saying "Part of the dress code is that pants must sit above the hip bones at all times. Are you comfortable complying with that?" And we've said to people, "You've expressed frustration that we haven't moved you out of the position you're in. But we can't have you interacting with people until you've demonstrated you have clear communication skills. That means looking people in the eye when you're talking with them, and speaking clearly."

This is not heartless. It's business.

It's one thing to base this on a person's presentation as an adult. But you felt the need to tie that behavior to a potential candidate's upbringing. That's the thing people are taking an issue with.

Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.

Anonymous wrote:Do you mispronounce and look down on black names?

What would you think of a black man named Mark versus a black man name DeMarcus?

Do you think Mark was raised by a college educated nuclear black family, or was he adopted? Did DeMarcus grow up in subsidized housing never knowing his father?

My name is Arabic, traditionally used in the black community. After my freshman year of college I went by the nickname Nicole and the change was obvious. I was still a black woman, but so there was a privilege in going by Nicole.

I had my children, and gave them top 100 Euro-centralist names, believing this was better for them.

My daughter has friend, a white child from an upper middle class family, named Karsynne. My son has a boy in his class named Wolff. I know so many white kids with names that are absolutely bizarre, completely made up and I want to kick myself for not naming my daughter Iesha. I thought I could erase a bit of their blackness, and it would help them navigate.

Seeing my Michael next to a blue eyed, blonde haired little boy named Maverick and I just have to laugh.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.

Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.

Bryce? "Made up?" Only in the sense that all names are made up.

It's an old Scottish/Gaelic name. Lots of pro sports players, an award-winning Australian novelist, a former chairman/CEO of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, an United States Air Force four-star general.

Totally disagree, the weird / made up white names with Ys are low class and judged that way. People comment on the Aydins Kaydens Rhys Jayce etc they just don't say it to your face.

What about names with unnecessary Ys, like Kathryn?

Anonymous wrote:I look down on white people who give their child an ethnic names such as, Priya, Bodhi etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.

Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.

Bryce? "Made up?" Only in the sense that all names are made up.

It's an old Scottish/Gaelic name. Lots of pro sports players, an award-winning Australian novelist, a former chairman/CEO of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, an United States Air Force four-star general.

Totally disagree, the weird / made up white names with Ys are low class and judged that way. People comment on the Aydins Kaydens Rhys Jayce etc they just don't say it to your face.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.

Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.

Bryce? "Made up?" Only in the sense that all names are made up.

It's an old Scottish/Gaelic name. Lots of pro sports players, an award-winning Australian novelist, a former chairman/CEO of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, an United States Air Force four-star general.

Totally disagree, the weird / made up white names with Ys are low class and judged that way. People comment on the Aydins Kaydens Rhys Jayce etc they just don't say it to your face.