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It depends when you bought. We couldn't afford our house now but bought it for $250,000 when we had our first child.

In Potomac? When was that?

potomac is huge, go drive around it. you sound like you have never been there. we just went to a kid bday party in a rambler on half acre that the family rents. BFD.

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Well guess what, there are quite a few of us who are not wealthy. Take a drive around the neighborhoods surrounding Churchill and Churchill is surrounded by modest homes, not McMansions. Check out the cars in the driveways, not Mercedes and BMWs. Yes, most of the parents are educated, but two incomes is fairly common around here. Of course, there is wealth, but don't lump us all in with them. I do agree that drugs have been a problem, but agree with the poster above that a lot of that problem continued to exist because the old principal didn't do anything about it. There are a LOT of parents who are hopeful that the new one doesn't turn a blind eye to it and while I'm at it, hope she does some house cleaning with staff that need to go.

How much does it cost to buy one of these modest homes?

+1 The homes may be "modest" by Potomac standards, but they cost a bundle specifically because you are paying a segregation tax to access a neighborhood and schools untouched by the masses.

When you live in a large metro area real estate costs more. What about this home isn't modest and middle class?

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/11014-Gainsborough-Rd-20854/home/10891985

.....the fact that it cost $1,000,000

$1,000,000? I see $700K in 2015.

Here's a perfectly nice house in the Churchill Cluster, costing nowhere near a million dollars. Not all of Potomac is giant fancy McMansions.

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Potomac/11511-Glen-Rd-20854/home/10606072

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It depends when you bought. We couldn't afford our house now but bought it for $250,000 when we had our first child.

In Potomac? When was that?

I have high school kds so long ago enough we didn't move. Realestate values don't always reflect income. We just were lucky when we bought and put a lot of work into fixing up a older home.

What is your HHI? That's more of a determination than how much you paid for your house and when.

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Well guess what, there are quite a few of us who are not wealthy. Take a drive around the neighborhoods surrounding Churchill and Churchill is surrounded by modest homes, not McMansions. Check out the cars in the driveways, not Mercedes and BMWs. Yes, most of the parents are educated, but two incomes is fairly common around here. Of course, there is wealth, but don't lump us all in with them. I do agree that drugs have been a problem, but agree with the poster above that a lot of that problem continued to exist because the old principal didn't do anything about it. There are a LOT of parents who are hopeful that the new one doesn't turn a blind eye to it and while I'm at it, hope she does some house cleaning with staff that need to go.

How much does it cost to buy one of these modest homes?

+1 The homes may be "modest" by Potomac standards, but they cost a bundle specifically because you are paying a segregation tax to access a neighborhood and schools untouched by the masses.

Sorry honey. I know you like to tell yourself that people buy houses to get away from the poors but actually people buy houses they like to live in, for commutes, for safe neighborhoods, for good schools, to be close to family.

Also honey, couples work damn hard to get through college with a marketable degree and skills hold down a good job, save their income, stay out of trouble, have kids in wedlock, and buy a decent house they want to live in. You seem to really hate them for doing that, don't you?

You must be a difficult person to be around always harping about people concocting asinine ways to avoid others. In reality these home-owning people you so loathe are working hard, following the laws, paying their high tax rates, donating to churches & temples, and trying to raise their children.

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Well guess what, there are quite a few of us who are not wealthy. Take a drive around the neighborhoods surrounding Churchill and Churchill is surrounded by modest homes, not McMansions. Check out the cars in the driveways, not Mercedes and BMWs. Yes, most of the parents are educated, but two incomes is fairly common around here. Of course, there is wealth, but don't lump us all in with them. I do agree that drugs have been a problem, but agree with the poster above that a lot of that problem continued to exist because the old principal didn't do anything about it. There are a LOT of parents who are hopeful that the new one doesn't turn a blind eye to it and while I'm at it, hope she does some house cleaning with staff that need to go.

How much does it cost to buy one of these modest homes?

+1 The homes may be "modest" by Potomac standards, but they cost a bundle specifically because you are paying a segregation tax to access a neighborhood and schools untouched by the masses.

When you live in a large metro area real estate costs more. What about this home isn't modest and middle class?

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/11014-Gainsborough-Rd-20854/home/10891985

.....the fact that it cost $1,000,000

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It depends when you bought. We couldn't afford our house now but bought it for $250,000 when we had our first child.

In Potomac? When was that?

I have high school kds so long ago enough we didn't move. Realestate values don't always reflect income. We just were lucky when we bought and put a lot of work into fixing up a older home.

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Well guess what, there are quite a few of us who are not wealthy. Take a drive around the neighborhoods surrounding Churchill and Churchill is surrounded by modest homes, not McMansions. Check out the cars in the driveways, not Mercedes and BMWs. Yes, most of the parents are educated, but two incomes is fairly common around here. Of course, there is wealth, but don't lump us all in with them. I do agree that drugs have been a problem, but agree with the poster above that a lot of that problem continued to exist because the old principal didn't do anything about it. There are a LOT of parents who are hopeful that the new one doesn't turn a blind eye to it and while I'm at it, hope she does some house cleaning with staff that need to go.

How much does it cost to buy one of these modest homes?

+1 The homes may be "modest" by Potomac standards, but they cost a bundle specifically because you are paying a segregation tax to access a neighborhood and schools untouched by the masses.

When you live in a large metro area real estate costs more. What about this home isn't modest and middle class?

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/11014-Gainsborough-Rd-20854/home/10891985

Some families afford the neighborhood because they have extended family living with them to collectively combine resources. If you have 4 educated adults supporting living expenses instead of two, it's easier to afford a more expensive home.

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It depends when you bought. We couldn't afford our house now but bought it for $250,000 when we had our first child.

In Potomac? When was that?

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Well guess what, there are quite a few of us who are not wealthy. Take a drive around the neighborhoods surrounding Churchill and Churchill is surrounded by modest homes, not McMansions. Check out the cars in the driveways, not Mercedes and BMWs. Yes, most of the parents are educated, but two incomes is fairly common around here. Of course, there is wealth, but don't lump us all in with them. I do agree that drugs have been a problem, but agree with the poster above that a lot of that problem continued to exist because the old principal didn't do anything about it. There are a LOT of parents who are hopeful that the new one doesn't turn a blind eye to it and while I'm at it, hope she does some house cleaning with staff that need to go.

How much does it cost to buy one of these modest homes?

+1 The homes may be "modest" by Potomac standards, but they cost a bundle specifically because you are paying a segregation tax to access a neighborhood and schools untouched by the masses.

It depends when you bought. We couldn't afford our house now but bought it for $250,000 when we had our first child.

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Well guess what, there are quite a few of us who are not wealthy. Take a drive around the neighborhoods surrounding Churchill and Churchill is surrounded by modest homes, not McMansions. Check out the cars in the driveways, not Mercedes and BMWs. Yes, most of the parents are educated, but two incomes is fairly common around here. Of course, there is wealth, but don't lump us all in with them. I do agree that drugs have been a problem, but agree with the poster above that a lot of that problem continued to exist because the old principal didn't do anything about it. There are a LOT of parents who are hopeful that the new one doesn't turn a blind eye to it and while I'm at it, hope she does some house cleaning with staff that need to go.

How much does it cost to buy one of these modest homes?

+1 The homes may be "modest" by Potomac standards, but they cost a bundle specifically because you are paying a segregation tax to access a neighborhood and schools untouched by the masses.

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Well guess what, there are quite a few of us who are not wealthy. Take a drive around the neighborhoods surrounding Churchill and Churchill is surrounded by modest homes, not McMansions. Check out the cars in the driveways, not Mercedes and BMWs. Yes, most of the parents are educated, but two incomes is fairly common around here. Of course, there is wealth, but don't lump us all in with them. I do agree that drugs have been a problem, but agree with the poster above that a lot of that problem continued to exist because the old principal didn't do anything about it. There are a LOT of parents who are hopeful that the new one doesn't turn a blind eye to it and while I'm at it, hope she does some house cleaning with staff that need to go.

How much does it cost to buy one of these modest homes?

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Anonymous wrote:There is also drugs, drugs, and more drugs inside the school. However, that is probably an issue in all schools today.

Wealthy schools have more high end drugs, and issues are swept under the rug by wealthy parents.

Churchill swept problems under the rug because the last principal didn't want the problems reflected in school data. She did nothing to keep drugs out of the school including getting the known dealers out of the school.

It's easy to blame parents and broadly paint the whole community as "wealthy". Many of us are middle class. We also have Section 8 families at our school for those who do not know. I would say parents in our community regardless of income want drugs out of Churchill because that is the main place our children are exposed to the influence.

OMG.. most of you are not middle class, and the section 8 housing is tiny in that cluster (less than 5%). Same for Wootton.

I live in the RM cluster, 20854. This area is not mostly middle class.

Well guess what, there are quite a few of us who are not wealthy. Take a drive around the neighborhoods surrounding Churchill and Churchill is surrounded by modest homes, not McMansions. Check out the cars in the driveways, not Mercedes and BMWs. Yes, most of the parents are educated, but two incomes is fairly common around here. Of course, there is wealth, but don't lump us all in with them. I do agree that drugs have been a problem, but agree with the poster above that a lot of that problem continued to exist because the old principal didn't do anything about it. There are a LOT of parents who are hopeful that the new one doesn't turn a blind eye to it and while I'm at it, hope she does some house cleaning with staff that need to go.

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And yet multiple posters have said on this thread that the schools in Clarksburg, which have a lot of Asian Americans, are not hyper-competitive.

Clarksburgh HS has 19% Asian Americans.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04249.pdf

Churchill has 27.7%
Wootton 37.1%

Compared to the W schools mentioned in OP's post, Clarksburg HS doesn't have a high % of Asian American students. It's even lower than RM's.

But in general, I would say HS with a high % of wealthy families will be more competitive, add a high % of Asian Americans, and it will be more so.

Clarksburg ES: 37.6%
Little Bennett ES: 29.4%
Wilson Wims ES: 43.7%
Cedar Grove ES: 38.9%
Rocky Hill MS: 27.4%
Hallie Wells MS: 34.6%

In all 6 schools, "Asian" is the category with the most students.

That's nice, but ESs is not where most of the hyper competitiveness exists. And eventually, all those ES students end up at HS together.

Also, if you want to compare at the ES level, Wootton still has it beat:

Stone Mill 50.9
Travillah 45.9
Lakewood 45.5
Cold Spring 43.1%
Bells Mills 29.9
Seven Locks 21.5
Dufief 26.5
Fallsmead 30

It's not a competition, eh?

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Anonymous wrote:There is also drugs, drugs, and more drugs inside the school. However, that is probably an issue in all schools today.

Wealthy schools have more high end drugs, and issues are swept under the rug by wealthy parents.

Churchill swept problems under the rug because the last principal didn't want the problems reflected in school data. She did nothing to keep drugs out of the school including getting the known dealers out of the school.

It's easy to blame parents and broadly paint the whole community as "wealthy". Many of us are middle class. We also have Section 8 families at our school for those who do not know. I would say parents in our community regardless of income want drugs out of Churchill because that is the main place our children are exposed to the influence.

2017-2018 enrollment at Churchill HS was 2,123. The FARMs percent was <5%. So the number of students at Churchill HS last year with free or reduced meals was somewhere between 0 and 106; somewhere between 0 and 27 students per grade.