Anonymous
Post 04/26/2018 11:11     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The book award in our grade normally goes to a beauvoir boy and most of the kids that get academic prizes are from beauvoir.

It's possible for Beauvoir grads to have very strong individual students but be weaker in the aggregate than those entering the Cathedral schools in 4th grade from other parts of the area. Not contradictory at all.


Define “weaker.” Beauvoir math emphasizes problem-solving and conceptual understanding, so they do not emphasize computation or rote learning. If you place a Beauvoir 3rd grader against a Sidwell 3rd grader, the Beauvoir child might seem to be “weaker.” However, the Beauvoir child will excel at conceptual and critical thinking as well as problem-solving. Beauvoir children is also very strong at teaching children how to learn and to enjoy the process. That has made the tuition worth it for us.


Stay in your lane. It's pretty obvious you are unfamiliar with sidwell lower school


Actually, I am quite familiar with the lower school; I have a child who is now in the middle school. Since you have no point of comparison, perhaps you should stay in your lane?

Sidwell is an excellent school, but differs from Beauvoir somewhat in it’s pedagogical approach. Sidwell kids at third grade are exposed to things Beauvoir kids are not. That doesn’t mean. Eauvoir is weaker, just different.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2018 10:05     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
I think some people who sent there kids there had been under the impression that admittance to Beauvoir was some sign of destiny or perhaps even superiority.

There have been threads on this board where parents referred to other schools as lower tier etc. That's probably where some of the schaudenfreude (sp) is coming from. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Just offering a possible hypothesis.

The current results show that going to Beauvoir may not be too much of an advantage unless you want the Cathedral schools. In that case, it seems to be huge advantage. Some people had felt that it would be carte blanche into getting into any school. What this means now is that prospective parents may want to rethink their strategy if they are not set on STA/NCS after Beauvoir.

Anonymous
Post 04/26/2018 08:40     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The book award in our grade normally goes to a beauvoir boy and most of the kids that get academic prizes are from beauvoir.

It's possible for Beauvoir grads to have very strong individual students but be weaker in the aggregate than those entering the Cathedral schools in 4th grade from other parts of the area. Not contradictory at all.


Define “weaker.” Beauvoir math emphasizes problem-solving and conceptual understanding, so they do not emphasize computation or rote learning. If you place a Beauvoir 3rd grader against a Sidwell 3rd grader, the Beauvoir child might seem to be “weaker.” However, the Beauvoir child will excel at conceptual and critical thinking as well as problem-solving. Beauvoir children is also very strong at teaching children how to learn and to enjoy the process. That has made the tuition worth it for us.


Stay in your lane. It's pretty obvious you are unfamiliar with sidwell lower school


Or any school. This is how math is taught pretty much everywhere, including public schools (in fact, it's the basis of common core math standards, which is why CC haters hate it -- the haters love rote learning).
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2018 08:32     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:What this result tells me is that if you want to go co-ed for high school (and many girls do not want to go to NCS for various reasons) then going the BVR route is not recommended. Will be better off starting at a K-8 school.


This is probably true. Especially bc there are somewhat fewer seats at many of the co-ed K-12 schools at 4th grade (compared to 7th, 9th, or even 3rd). If you have your heart set on a co-ed K-12, you should go at Pre-K/K, or go to a school where it’s “done” to apply out early and often.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2018 08:16     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The book award in our grade normally goes to a beauvoir boy and most of the kids that get academic prizes are from beauvoir.

It's possible for Beauvoir grads to have very strong individual students but be weaker in the aggregate than those entering the Cathedral schools in 4th grade from other parts of the area. Not contradictory at all.


Define “weaker.” Beauvoir math emphasizes problem-solving and conceptual understanding, so they do not emphasize computation or rote learning. If you place a Beauvoir 3rd grader against a Sidwell 3rd grader, the Beauvoir child might seem to be “weaker.” However, the Beauvoir child will excel at conceptual and critical thinking as well as problem-solving. Beauvoir children is also very strong at teaching children how to learn and to enjoy the process. That has made the tuition worth it for us.


Beauvoir boys get the most academic prizes in both my sons’ grades. In Honors math it is mostly Beauvoir boys. Your facts are incorrect. As for NCS, my daughter has had straight A’s every year at NCS coming from Beauvoir without any outside help. More importantly though, she’s happy and loves her school and classmates. Can’t believe everything you read on here. If we had, we would’ve missed an amazing opportunity for her and for us, as we’ve met the warmest nicest families at NCS. We have no regrets about Beauvoir.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2018 08:10     Subject: Re:Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:NP. Isn’t it generally acknowledged that the brightest kids in the graduating class enter in 9th grade at STA and NCS? BVR kids are usually in the bottom half? NMSFs and cum laude very rarely BVR kids, I think.


No.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2018 07:50     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:The only people who should be interested in this thread are current BVR parents and prospective parents. If you are neither and feel compelled to bash the school or KIDS for god sake you are living a pretty sad life. Like seriously, why do you care???

Let’s assume - though we know it’s simply not true - the BVR kids were always at the bottom of the class, maybe just maybe it’s because the competition to get one of the available slots at 4th, 6th and 9th is high given the number of slots and number of applications lending itself to NCS and STA having the ability to be very selective. Tell me how that’s any different at GDS, Sidwell, Maret, Holten or Landon? Seems to me I recall hearing how “lifers” aren’t necessarily the kids at the top of the class come high school? Why isn’t anyone shedding a light on how many students leave Sidwell for Sandy Springs after Lower and Middle School? I mean surely no one started at Sidwell to end up Sandy Springs, right??? But yeah that doesn’t seem to be a topic of conversation ever.

Facts: Beauvoir is THE National Cathedral Elementary School and what that means is that BVR kids get priority consideration. If you don’t like it, too darn bad too sad. Because it is what it is. If you want your kid to go to NCS or STA then increase your chances and send them to BVR. If you hate BVR then you roll the dice for the leftover slots. Hey, if you do it that way looks like your child is well on their way to being at the top of the class and outshining their BVR nemesis.

As far as I am concerned BVR kids should automatically move on to NCS and STA. So all of you disgruntled BVR rejects should be happy there are even a few more slots at NCS and STA than the other top schools.


You, no doubt, are very talented at turning people off from applying to any Cathedral school.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2018 07:40     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
The only people who should be interested in this thread are current BVR parents and prospective parents. If you are neither and feel compelled to bash the school or KIDS for god sake you are living a pretty sad life. Like seriously, why do you care???

Let’s assume - though we know it’s simply not true - the BVR kids were always at the bottom of the class, maybe just maybe it’s because the competition to get one of the available slots at 4th, 6th and 9th is high given the number of slots and number of applications lending itself to NCS and STA having the ability to be very selective. Tell me how that’s any different at GDS, Sidwell, Maret, Holten or Landon? Seems to me I recall hearing how “lifers” aren’t necessarily the kids at the top of the class come high school? Why isn’t anyone shedding a light on how many students leave Sidwell for Sandy Springs after Lower and Middle School? I mean surely no one started at Sidwell to end up Sandy Springs, right??? But yeah that doesn’t seem to be a topic of conversation ever.

Facts: Beauvoir is THE National Cathedral Elementary School and what that means is that BVR kids get priority consideration. If you don’t like it, too darn bad too sad. Because it is what it is. If you want your kid to go to NCS or STA then increase your chances and send them to BVR. If you hate BVR then you roll the dice for the leftover slots. Hey, if you do it that way looks like your child is well on their way to being at the top of the class and outshining their BVR nemesis.

As far as I am concerned BVR kids should automatically move on to NCS and STA. So all of you disgruntled BVR rejects should be happy there are even a few more slots at NCS and STA than the other top schools.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 22:38     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
this thread is so interesting—non BVR parents are so invested in BVR exmissions! as a third grade parent who just went through this process, there is no hook, no sibling, no large donations wrt our family. dc is bright, kind, and a great student who was accepted early to sta/ncs. this class is very strong and there was not much hesitation (at least among parents i spoke with) wrt choosing to apply to those two schools or to seek other options. a pp mentioned that maybe if you don’t want single sex, you should steer clear of BVR. i think that’s fair, especially if you think you’re going to roll on into 4th grade at SFS or Maret. the spaces at these two schools are so limited and for many reasons, they really appeal to BVR families. it’s unrealistic to think that the 10 girls and 10 boys (roughly) who decided against the cathedral schools were all going to be admitted to SFS or Maret. the math just doesn’t work and i don’t think pk or k new parents are aware of how hard it is if you want to go to those schools. and frankly, some kids will just be a better fit at those k-6/8 schools whether bc of personality, academics, whatever. but to denigrate BVR kids and families as nothing but big donors or legacies is way off base. that’s certainly not the case for this class.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 22:01     Subject: Re:Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. Isn’t it generally acknowledged that the brightest kids in the graduating class enter in 9th grade at STA and NCS? BVR kids are usually in the bottom half? NMSFs and cum laude very rarely BVR kids, I think.


That makes sense since in the LS and MS the bottom half are already the Beauvoirese. My hypothesis is that their parents have been generous donors. the school needs to retain this segment of students.


Gosh you people are the worst shame shame. Not only are you awfull little lying trolls but the lies you are spreading are about children! Bottom line most Beauvoir kids thrive at sta including mine and including family members


Well I dont agree that the top Students in every class are non-Beauvoir boys but it’s true for my son’s class. There are very accomplished Beauvoir boys in his class but the very best students did not come from Beauvoir.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 21:35     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Stick to sidwell we’ll stick to Beauvoir. Just wondering why so many people have invested in this thread? You all just seem insecure spur grapes. Move along.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 21:30     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The book award in our grade normally goes to a beauvoir boy and most of the kids that get academic prizes are from beauvoir.

It's possible for Beauvoir grads to have very strong individual students but be weaker in the aggregate than those entering the Cathedral schools in 4th grade from other parts of the area. Not contradictory at all.


Define “weaker.” Beauvoir math emphasizes problem-solving and conceptual understanding, so they do not emphasize computation or rote learning. If you place a Beauvoir 3rd grader against a Sidwell 3rd grader, the Beauvoir child might seem to be “weaker.” However, the Beauvoir child will excel at conceptual and critical thinking as well as problem-solving. Beauvoir children is also very strong at teaching children how to learn and to enjoy the process. That has made the tuition worth it for us.


Stay in your lane. It's pretty obvious you are unfamiliar with sidwell lower school
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 21:18     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
This is so not true in my DD's class. Maybe NCS is different from STA?
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 21:05     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The book award in our grade normally goes to a beauvoir boy and most of the kids that get academic prizes are from beauvoir.

It's possible for Beauvoir grads to have very strong individual students but be weaker in the aggregate than those entering the Cathedral schools in 4th grade from other parts of the area. Not contradictory at all.


Define “weaker.” Beauvoir math emphasizes problem-solving and conceptual understanding, so they do not emphasize computation or rote learning. If you place a Beauvoir 3rd grader against a Sidwell 3rd grader, the Beauvoir child might seem to be “weaker.” However, the Beauvoir child will excel at conceptual and critical thinking as well as problem-solving. Beauvoir children is also very strong at teaching children how to learn and to enjoy the process. That has made the tuition worth it for us.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 20:56     Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:How many of the Beauvoir kids are hooked at NCS/STA through sibling preference or “other family members?” Maybe that helps explain it. Schools like to keep families together for various reasons even if that does reduce school diversity.


Ask the admissions people this question. They will tell you that if the sibling does not have the academic chops to handle the work, the sibling will not be accepted. It does no one any favors to set a child up to fail. No matter what the resentful parents of rejected applicants seem to think, the academics at NCS and STA are tough.