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Post 01/08/2018 17:31     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

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Anonymous wrote:These people have been here a long time. No new people are getting TPS, the have to have been here when the program was open.

They have to apply and pay to stay every 18 months and they can’t have criminal records. Many of them now have US citizen children. Deporting the parent of a US Citizens is bad policy. Often time the family that stays ends up going on public assistance. Most people understand all this. Stephen Miller does not. It’ bad for the families. It’s bad for state welfare programs. It’s bad for the community. But it makes some heartless non-thinking people think they are “winning”somehow.


You may feel that way but there is absolutely no provision in your immigration law that extends protection to the parents of the U.S. citizen children. I've been in the U.S. on various nonimmigrant visas for close to 19 years. I have three young children, all U.S. citizens. Should I lose my job tomorrow, I'd have sixty days to leave the country. Not a soul will weep for me, of course, because people who advocate for poor brown immigrants do not see UMC white groups as worthy of their protection. It is what it is.



Actually, there are provisions that extends protection to parents of US citizen children. There are waivers in certain situations and other kinds of relief if you qualify. The law doesn’t discriminate based on race. Most people who have been here 19 years have figured that out.


These provisions are highly restrictive and carry a high burden of proof. Taken alone, the fact that your minor child is a U.S. citizen does not confer any advantages on the parent.

The law may not discriminate based on race but you won't find many NGOs advocating for immigrants who aren't poor or brown.
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Post 01/08/2018 17:31     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

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Anonymous wrote:Of course democrats want to amnesty as many immigrants as possible given that third worlders would vote for democrats for the welfare.

and of course some Rs want cheap foreign labor since it helps their bottom line. Rs want to make money off their backs, but god forbid they should have any rights.


Yea sure many of the rich ones do. The middle class and poor ones don’t. That’s why trump speaks for the middle class and poor on immigration.

lol.. too funny given that Trump is one of those "rich ones". OMG. You do know that his resorts hire cheap foreign labor from Eastern Europe, and that in his first few months in office he raised those h2b visas by another 15k, and that his first pick for Labor Sec was a man who professed to loving cheap foreign labor? omg, seriously?????!!!!


It’s policy that I care about. If Trump enforces the country’s immigration laws which dem and rep presidents have declined to do for decades, then I’m on the MAGA train.

oh, so, now the story is "policy that you care about" and not the middle class and poor ones. Got it. My how the story changes when you paint yourself into a corner.

I care about policy, too, but I care more that we don't have an unfit person in the WH.


Your post is incoherent.

Yes it’s policy that I care about, the policy that helps working-class and middle-class Americans. The policy of enforcing our laws. That’s why Donald Trump is so wonderful on immigration.

So why is Trump importing foreign H2bs to work on his properties instead of those working class Americans? You're the one who seems incoherent.


Who is going to take the jobs that the Salvadorans leave behind? Americans aren't lining up to take jobs as maids, cooks, fruitpickers and landscapers. Even Trump has said so.

The Trump Organization has secured visas to hire 70 foreign workers who will be employed during the 2017-18 season as maids, cooks, and servers.

Despite running on an ‘American jobs’ ticket, Trump’s former company – which is currently run by his sons Donald Jr. and Eric – has opted to take on foreign labor at the president’s Mar-a-Lago resort, which is dubbed the ‘Winter White House.’

Trump has previously defended hiring workers from outside the U.S., stating back in 2016 when he was questioned by Senator Marco Rubio about hiring foreign labor: “It’s very, very hard to get people. Other hotels do the exact same thing.”
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 17:22     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

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Anonymous wrote:These people have been here a long time. No new people are getting TPS, the have to have been here when the program was open.

They have to apply and pay to stay every 18 months and they can’t have criminal records. Many of them now have US citizen children. Deporting the parent of a US Citizens is bad policy. Often time the family that stays ends up going on public assistance. Most people understand all this. Stephen Miller does not. It’ bad for the families. It’s bad for state welfare programs. It’s bad for the community. But it makes some heartless non-thinking people think they are “winning”somehow.


You may feel that way but there is absolutely no provision in your immigration law that extends protection to the parents of the U.S. citizen children. I've been in the U.S. on various nonimmigrant visas for close to 19 years. I have three young children, all U.S. citizens. Should I lose my job tomorrow, I'd have sixty days to leave the country. Not a soul will weep for me, of course, because people who advocate for poor brown immigrants do not see UMC white groups as worthy of their protection. It is what it is.



Actually, there are provisions that extends protection to parents of US citizen children. There are waivers in certain situations and other kinds of relief if you qualify. The law doesn’t discriminate based on race. Most people who have been here 19 years have figured that out.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 17:12     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

El Salvador doesn't have 200,000 jobs for them to come back to.

This is a humanitarian disaster in the making.
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Post 01/08/2018 17:07     Subject: Re:You may not agree with Trump but he means business

Where are our collective priorities? One in six American children live in households with unstable food supplies. We have deteriorating infrastructure. We have a broken education system that produces embarrassingly poor outcomes compared to other western democracies . New Orleans is still struggling with its rebuilding effort 13 years after Katrina. We have an opioid epidemic that is gutting rural america. We have a growing problem with mental illness. Our life expectancy has declined for the past two years. I could go on and on but in the context of all that is broken in this country and all that desperately needs resources and expertise, I would not prioritize harboring 200,000 El Salvadorians anywhere near the top of the list.
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Post 01/08/2018 17:04     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

Anonymous wrote:Trump and hB2's? IDK. Is it illegal? If not it should be illegal. WPA style employees. Currently watching c-span2. Obama with a super majority did zip on DACA. Now DACA is an emergency-it's all about votes.

Current DACA recipients stay? Their parents must leave. E verify required. All temps revoked. No chain migration.

? Is this a Russian Troll? What do you mean by Trump and H2Bs and "is it illegal.. if not it should be illegal"? Of course it's not illegal. Not only are work visas legal but Trump loves them but only if it benefits his business, but not anyone else's. Then it's "foreigners taking American jobs".

And given that more of the illegal immigrants come from overstaying their visas than crossing the border illegally, and that it's the low level workers on h2b and h2a visas that overstay their visas, Trump seems to be helping to indirectly add to the illegal immigrant population.
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Post 01/08/2018 16:56     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

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Anonymous wrote:These people have been here a long time. No new people are getting TPS, the have to have been here when the program was open.

They have to apply and pay to stay every 18 months and they can’t have criminal records. Many of them now have US citizen children. Deporting the parent of a US Citizens is bad policy. Often time the family that stays ends up going on public assistance. Most people understand all this. Stephen Miller does not. It’ bad for the families. It’s bad for state welfare programs. It’s bad for the community. But it makes some heartless non-thinking people think they are “winning”somehow.


The Salvadorans came here in 2001 on protected status. Temporary. How many Presidential terms later is it still the same situation? Now the 5th and the 3rd president?

Why call it temporary? If a diplomat is here or some such special visa their children DO NOT get to be US citizens so why did children of these temporary US residents?
[Vienna, Tysons, etc].


Children of diplomats are in fact eligible for green cards.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 16:54     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

Anonymous wrote:These people have been here a long time. No new people are getting TPS, the have to have been here when the program was open.

They have to apply and pay to stay every 18 months and they can’t have criminal records. Many of them now have US citizen children. Deporting the parent of a US Citizens is bad policy. Often time the family that stays ends up going on public assistance. Most people understand all this. Stephen Miller does not. It’ bad for the families. It’s bad for state welfare programs. It’s bad for the community. But it makes some heartless non-thinking people think they are “winning”somehow.


You may feel that way but there is absolutely no provision in your immigration law that extends protection to the parents of the U.S. citizen children. I've been in the U.S. on various nonimmigrant visas for close to 19 years. I have three young children, all U.S. citizens. Should I lose my job tomorrow, I'd have sixty days to leave the country. Not a soul will weep for me, of course, because people who advocate for poor brown immigrants do not see UMC white groups as worthy of their protection. It is what it is.

Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 16:42     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

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Anonymous wrote:Of course democrats want to amnesty as many immigrants as possible given that third worlders would vote for democrats for the welfare.

and of course some Rs want cheap foreign labor since it helps their bottom line. Rs want to make money off their backs, but god forbid they should have any rights.


Yea sure many of the rich ones do. The middle class and poor ones don’t. That’s why trump speaks for the middle class and poor on immigration.

lol.. too funny given that Trump is one of those "rich ones". OMG. You do know that his resorts hire cheap foreign labor from Eastern Europe, and that in his first few months in office he raised those h2b visas by another 15k, and that his first pick for Labor Sec was a man who professed to loving cheap foreign labor? omg, seriously?????!!!!


It’s policy that I care about. If Trump enforces the country’s immigration laws which dem and rep presidents have declined to do for decades, then I’m on the MAGA train.

oh, so, now the story is "policy that you care about" and not the middle class and poor ones. Got it. My how the story changes when you paint yourself into a corner.

I care about policy, too, but I care more that we don't have an unfit person in the WH.


Your post is incoherent.

Yes it’s policy that I care about, the policy that helps working-class and middle-class Americans. The policy of enforcing our laws. That’s why Donald Trump is so wonderful on immigration.


Trump has no idea about immigration. He is not “enforcing “ laws. He is just a figure head they can’t control. We have all they crazy republicans who are seizing an opportunity to turn this country back to 1950 while the world passes us by. It is appalling these people can’t see it !
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 16:38     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course democrats want to amnesty as many immigrants as possible given that third worlders would vote for democrats for the welfare.

and of course some Rs want cheap foreign labor since it helps their bottom line. Rs want to make money off their backs, but god forbid they should have any rights.


Yea sure many of the rich ones do. The middle class and poor ones don’t. That’s why trump speaks for the middle class and poor on immigration.

lol.. too funny given that Trump is one of those "rich ones". OMG. You do know that his resorts hire cheap foreign labor from Eastern Europe, and that in his first few months in office he raised those h2b visas by another 15k, and that his first pick for Labor Sec was a man who professed to loving cheap foreign labor? omg, seriously?????!!!!


No, the Trump supporters have no clue. They are easily fooled and can’t understand he is out for only himself.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 16:17     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

Trump and hB2's? IDK. Is it illegal? If not it should be illegal. WPA style employees. Currently watching c-span2. Obama with a super majority did zip on DACA. Now DACA is an emergency-it's all about votes.

Current DACA recipients stay? Their parents must leave. E verify required. All temps revoked. No chain migration.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 15:53     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course democrats want to amnesty as many immigrants as possible given that third worlders would vote for democrats for the welfare.

and of course some Rs want cheap foreign labor since it helps their bottom line. Rs want to make money off their backs, but god forbid they should have any rights.


Yea sure many of the rich ones do. The middle class and poor ones don’t. That’s why trump speaks for the middle class and poor on immigration.

lol.. too funny given that Trump is one of those "rich ones". OMG. You do know that his resorts hire cheap foreign labor from Eastern Europe, and that in his first few months in office he raised those h2b visas by another 15k, and that his first pick for Labor Sec was a man who professed to loving cheap foreign labor? omg, seriously?????!!!!


It’s policy that I care about. If Trump enforces the country’s immigration laws which dem and rep presidents have declined to do for decades, then I’m on the MAGA train.

oh, so, now the story is "policy that you care about" and not the middle class and poor ones. Got it. My how the story changes when you paint yourself into a corner.

I care about policy, too, but I care more that we don't have an unfit person in the WH.


Your post is incoherent.

Yes it’s policy that I care about, the policy that helps working-class and middle-class Americans. The policy of enforcing our laws. That’s why Donald Trump is so wonderful on immigration.

So why is Trump importing foreign H2bs to work on his properties instead of those working class Americans? You're the one who seems incoherent.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 15:36     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

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Anonymous wrote:Of course democrats want to amnesty as many immigrants as possible given that third worlders would vote for democrats for the welfare.

and of course some Rs want cheap foreign labor since it helps their bottom line. Rs want to make money off their backs, but god forbid they should have any rights.


Yea sure many of the rich ones do. The middle class and poor ones don’t. That’s why trump speaks for the middle class and poor on immigration.

lol.. too funny given that Trump is one of those "rich ones". OMG. You do know that his resorts hire cheap foreign labor from Eastern Europe, and that in his first few months in office he raised those h2b visas by another 15k, and that his first pick for Labor Sec was a man who professed to loving cheap foreign labor? omg, seriously?????!!!!


It’s policy that I care about. If Trump enforces the country’s immigration laws which dem and rep presidents have declined to do for decades, then I’m on the MAGA train.

oh, so, now the story is "policy that you care about" and not the middle class and poor ones. Got it. My how the story changes when you paint yourself into a corner.

I care about policy, too, but I care more that we don't have an unfit person in the WH.


Your post is incoherent.

Yes it’s policy that I care about, the policy that helps working-class and middle-class Americans. The policy of enforcing our laws. That’s why Donald Trump is so wonderful on immigration.

? What the heck do you think H2B visas are if not part of his policies? How does Trump using cheap foreign labor help the poor out of work Americans?
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 15:27     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course democrats want to amnesty as many immigrants as possible given that third worlders would vote for democrats for the welfare.

and of course some Rs want cheap foreign labor since it helps their bottom line. Rs want to make money off their backs, but god forbid they should have any rights.


Yea sure many of the rich ones do. The middle class and poor ones don’t. That’s why trump speaks for the middle class and poor on immigration.

lol.. too funny given that Trump is one of those "rich ones". OMG. You do know that his resorts hire cheap foreign labor from Eastern Europe, and that in his first few months in office he raised those h2b visas by another 15k, and that his first pick for Labor Sec was a man who professed to loving cheap foreign labor? omg, seriously?????!!!!


It’s policy that I care about. If Trump enforces the country’s immigration laws which dem and rep presidents have declined to do for decades, then I’m on the MAGA train.

oh, so, now the story is "policy that you care about" and not the middle class and poor ones. Got it. My how the story changes when you paint yourself into a corner.

I care about policy, too, but I care more that we don't have an unfit person in the WH.


Your post is incoherent.

Yes it’s policy that I care about, the policy that helps working-class and middle-class Americans. The policy of enforcing our laws. That’s why Donald Trump is so wonderful on immigration.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2018 15:27     Subject: You may not agree with Trump but he means business

Anonymous wrote:These people have been here a long time. No new people are getting TPS, the have to have been here when the program was open.

They have to apply and pay to stay every 18 months and they can’t have criminal records. Many of them now have US citizen children. Deporting the parent of a US Citizens is bad policy. Often time the family that stays ends up going on public assistance. Most people understand all this. Stephen Miller does not. It’ bad for the families. It’s bad for state welfare programs. It’s bad for the community. But it makes some heartless non-thinking people think they are “winning”somehow.


The Salvadorans came here in 2001 on protected status. Temporary. How many Presidential terms later is it still the same situation? Now the 5th and the 3rd president?

Why call it temporary? If a diplomat is here or some such special visa their children DO NOT get to be US citizens so why did children of these temporary US residents?

DACA recipients are not the same group as the original dreamers. The US either has borders or it does not have borders. Bush and Obama took political passes on many issues. The USA saw what happened with the executive order on DACA-the flood of minors. It saw the flood after Reagan's amnesty.

All Trump is doing is following US laws. It's time some one bothered to do so...Gerry Connolly D-rep from NOVA said it's inhumane and inconsistent with American values. I'm a D and live in NOVA. Gerry-where's the money for FCPS from the state and /or feds to pay for the unaccompanied minors and the education of your Salvadoran temps and now anchors? Connolly was chair of the FX Board of Supervisors and the rep from Providence District [Vienna, Tysons, etc].