Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:48     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Rates are declining in the U.S. I think this generation of boys where it's done routinely or without a specific cultural/religious purpose. I have a daughter and am expecting another child, sex unknown. Also have four nephews, all uncircumcised. If DC2 is a boy, he'll be left intact.

- UMC, white, urban dweller
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:47     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:I work in the hospital nursery and find the practice barbaric personally. We did not circumcize my son even though my husband is. I'd say the rate of circumcision in this area is around 50-50.

Yes, all the nurses in the hospital where I delivered were truly horrible to me about it. They had no problem telling me all about their opinions on the topic. Excessively opinionated and anti semitic. Every last one of them. They also lied about how much pain my baby was in, even though the doctor used a local anesthetic for the procedure. You're clearly one of them.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:46     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never dated a man who wished he was circumcised, but have dated men who wished that they weren't.


Opposite experience for me.


They could have taken care of that issue if they really wished that were true. Obviously it wasn't something they felt strongly about.

That's what I don't get about the pro-circ people. If you are so certain circumcision is the best path, why aren't you confident enough in your stance to let your son decide on his own as an adult? Why not put him in charge of his own body? Are you worried because adult voluntary circumcisions are almost non-existent? And don't talk about how much worse it is; after all, you're totally okay doing this to your infant. Surely an adult male can handle what a baby often suffers without anesthesia.

The procedure is substantially more serious for an adult than it is for an infant and you know it. Adults and older children require stitches and a much longer recovery period. Infants do not require stitches and they heal much faster. It was healed in a week for my boys.


Boo hoo, stitches!!! Pity the poor penis! Women are popping kids out of their vaginas, getting c-sections, and are stitched up regularly. If an intact man cared enough, they’d do it.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:40     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
I work in the hospital nursery and find the practice barbaric personally. We did not circumcize my son even though my husband is. I'd say the rate of circumcision in this area is around 50-50.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:34     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never dated a man who wished he was circumcised, but have dated men who wished that they weren't.


Opposite experience for me.


They could have taken care of that issue if they really wished that were true. Obviously it wasn't something they felt strongly about.

That's what I don't get about the pro-circ people. If you are so certain circumcision is the best path, why aren't you confident enough in your stance to let your son decide on his own as an adult? Why not put him in charge of his own body? Are you worried because adult voluntary circumcisions are almost non-existent? And don't talk about how much worse it is; after all, you're totally okay doing this to your infant. Surely an adult male can handle what a baby often suffers without anesthesia.

The procedure is substantially more serious for an adult than it is for an infant and you know it. Adults and older children require stitches and a much longer recovery period. Infants do not require stitches and they heal much faster. It was healed in a week for my boys.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:26     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never dated a man who wished he was circumcised, but have dated men who wished that they weren't.


Opposite experience for me.


They could have taken care of that issue if they really wished that were true. Obviously it wasn't something they felt strongly about.

That's what I don't get about the pro-circ people. If you are so certain circumcision is the best path, why aren't you confident enough in your stance to let your son decide on his own as an adult? Why not put him in charge of his own body? Are you worried because adult voluntary circumcisions are almost non-existent? And don't talk about how much worse it is; after all, you're totally okay doing this to your infant. Surely an adult male can handle what a baby often suffers without anesthesia.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:21     Subject: Re:Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:We did not circumcise our son in the hospital as an infant. In my husband's culture it is done when they are older (typically between 3-9 yrs of age). I'm undecided about whether I want to push for getting it done in the US or back in my husbands home country. I am white, husband is black, we are UMC.


My husband's, too. He remembers being circumcised around 2. No anesthetic. Still, he wanted us to circ our son.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:14     Subject: Re:Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
DH is, and insisted our 8yo be as well... because he said it was the norm. I put my foot down for boys 2 and 3 because I felt it wasn’t necessary.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:11     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:Yes we did and so did everyone we know.


Same. I'm European and the hpv is rampant there too but the record keeping is not great. Especially in eastern Europe.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:07     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:DH is, but felt very strongly we should not so we didn't.

Yes, studies with little relevance to a western lifestyle show slight - negligible even - pros.

Yes, circumsized boys could make fun of your kid. Or, vice versa.

Yes, one way could become much more prevalent and women could recoil at the less fashionable option: unlikely given the rates are close to 50/50...today's boys' dating partners will see both types of penises.

All of the above points to not circumsizing for us. Religion aside, that is the most sensible, relevant, humane, and REVERSIBLE option where the kid can do it later in life if it's that important. You'll see parents vehemently defend this outdated, unucessary, and brutal procedure because they know they've done something irreversible to their child's body in a very personal way; defending it rabidly prevents them from feeling the guilt that I think they deserve to feel.


Wow, you sound like a great and open-minded person.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:06     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Yes we did and so did everyone we know.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:01     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
We didn't circ our boys and have had no issues.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:01     Subject: Re:Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:We did not circumcise our son in the hospital as an infant. In my husband's culture it is done when they are older (typically between 3-9 yrs of age). I'm undecided about whether I want to push for getting it done in the US or back in my husbands home country. I am white, husband is black, we are UMC.


Yikes! This seems like worst option no matter what side of the debate you’re on! The kid will be old enough to remember but not to choose.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 15:58     Subject: Re:Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
We did not circumcise our son in the hospital as an infant. In my husband's culture it is done when they are older (typically between 3-9 yrs of age). I'm undecided about whether I want to push for getting it done in the US or back in my husbands home country. I am white, husband is black, we are UMC.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 15:58     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never dated a man who wished he was circumcised, but have dated men who wished that they weren't.


Opposite experience for me.


I have literally only seen two uncircumcised men in my dating life, and that’s out of plenty (don’t ask the number. ). I’m not sure if it was the circles I grew up/went to college/dated in - but to me it IS the norm. Don’t have a boy but we agree if we do we will circumcise.