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Lol - well let’s hope you remain totally unfamiliar with perilous predicaments, treacherous conditions, and life-threatening situations my friend because your stubborn preoccupation with nonessential priorities will most certainly be your downfall.

But I doubt you’re that stupid. I understand you have to argue with me just to save face (odd seeing how this is an anonymous forum) but surely if your children were starving and at risk of being kidnapped and forced into child labor or child prostitution and possibly facing death in the crossfire of competing criminal factions you’d be wise enough to get the hell out now and learn English later too.

You're being too dramatic so that your argument begins to make sense. In every country you named, there would be tons of people somehow waking up every morning and putting food on the table. For every illegal immigrant fleeing genuine threat to life, there are dozens who simply want more money. The US does not recognize economic hardship (i.e. less money) as a bona fide grounds for asylum.

Wasn't making a case for a asylum nor making an argument that there aren't tons of people in the Central American countries mentioned that don't lead decent lives.
Only point I was making that for those that do have it rough and for those that are in dire straights and desperate to evacuate their dire situations its not exactly at the forefront of their thoughts to take a friggin ESOL course - something tells me their main priority is getting out of hell first and foremost.
Happy New Year!

I was making a case that getting out of hell doesn't need to involve illegal immigration.

Okay - I'm not dismissing your case.
I'm merely expounding upon the probable rationale of those who do decide to throw caution to the wind and say, "You know what I can't do another 5/6 months here going thru legal channels I got to get out now!!"
I'm merely stating that for those people in those circumstances their #1 priority is escape. It ain't learning a new language or acquiring the skill set necessary to do more than mop floors at your grandmothers retirement home. Those folks are focused on survival - period. And believe it or not there are some places in this world where people are that desperate, where people are that distressed that they don't have the luxury of extensive planning and preparation to do things the right way. For some people (not all, I ain't arguing about the data and statistics of everyone I'm simply talking about some people)...for some people their life and survival means getting out ASAP.
Take a chill pill nobody's advocating FOR illegal immigration I'm just taking a moment to understand the mindset and motivation of those who do.
Maybe I'm overly sympathetic but something tells me its not their primary mindset or motivation to take away precious low-paying jobs here in the US or bilk welfare programs.
I have a slight suspicion their primary mindset and motivation is simple immediate survival with the distant hope of a better life for their children.
As a human being I can't say that's a totally foreign concept - sounds...well...human.

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Lol - well let’s hope you remain totally unfamiliar with perilous predicaments, treacherous conditions, and life-threatening situations my friend because your stubborn preoccupation with nonessential priorities will most certainly be your downfall.

But I doubt you’re that stupid. I understand you have to argue with me just to save face (odd seeing how this is an anonymous forum) but surely if your children were starving and at risk of being kidnapped and forced into child labor or child prostitution and possibly facing death in the crossfire of competing criminal factions you’d be wise enough to get the hell out now and learn English later too.

You're being too dramatic so that your argument begins to make sense. In every country you named, there would be tons of people somehow waking up every morning and putting food on the table. For every illegal immigrant fleeing genuine threat to life, there are dozens who simply want more money. The US does not recognize economic hardship (i.e. less money) as a bona fide grounds for asylum.

Wasn't making a case for a asylum nor making an argument that there aren't tons of people in the Central American countries mentioned that don't lead decent lives.
Only point I was making that for those that do have it rough and for those that are in dire straights and desperate to evacuate their dire situations its not exactly at the forefront of their thoughts to take a friggin ESOL course - something tells me their main priority is getting out of hell first and foremost.
Happy New Year!

I was making a case that getting out of hell doesn't need to involve illegal immigration.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care OP? What have they done to you? Do you get extra money for every child who goes to bed hungry?

This.

Not this. I want my tax dollars going to us citizens. Not illegal aliens. How much do we spend on illegals? My guess is tens of billions. That’s a lot of assistance us citizens aren’t getting. I’m all for helping illegals as soon as no us citizen children go to bed hungry. And as soon as public schools start kicking out illegal aliens.

Why don't you worry about all of the poor people on meth who are on disability and their kids are sucking our foster system dry.

Hahaha. I work at a think tank and we love how the media the last few years has spun the opioid crises into The Topic for educated, high income white folks to chat about. Everything else, arguably much more serious in quantity and scope of aid, disability, fiscal budget, but more “uncomfortable” to speak about (illegal aliens, anchor babies, black on black crime, generational poverty, common core debacle, welfare mothers) gets ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/

and then there's the SE Asian fraudsters running lucrative immigration schemes of nobodies under H1B. You
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/

Clean it up!

Lawsuit expanded from 400 workers to class action lawsuit against TCS for racism

http://www.newsindiatimes.com/tata-consultancy-services-denied-dismissal-over-2015-discriminatory-lawsuit/32581

At Freddie Mac the entire wio department said is 100% South Indian . Indians will only hire other indians

Time to eliminate these Indian racist companies

What is "wio"?

??

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care OP? What have they done to you? Do you get extra money for every child who goes to bed hungry?

Not the OP. I lose money for every child brought here that the parents can't support.

You mean every child the illiterate, unskilled, uneducated illegal immigrant single mom brings and has here.

If parents pays for their own kids, I have no problem who they are.

I concur. If the mom or aunt or 3rd cousin they got the free bus ride to from the Texas detention center pays for their food, shelter, clothes, etc. great.
Those Central American CASA de Maryland ads have been working too well, the last several years Montgomery County has been second to Los Angeles as the sanctuary city intake numbers. First week of school is a particular kind of insanity if kids just showing up- and getting free food, counseling, testing, and then they order a few more classes and out the illegals in classes where they are typically 2-3 years older than the avg age. This has been going on for 15 years and years the results are dismal (increased crime, teen pregnancies, low graduation rates, portion Time out of public school at age 20 or 21 w o graduating.

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Lol - well let’s hope you remain totally unfamiliar with perilous predicaments, treacherous conditions, and life-threatening situations my friend because your stubborn preoccupation with nonessential priorities will most certainly be your downfall.

But I doubt you’re that stupid. I understand you have to argue with me just to save face (odd seeing how this is an anonymous forum) but surely if your children were starving and at risk of being kidnapped and forced into child labor or child prostitution and possibly facing death in the crossfire of competing criminal factions you’d be wise enough to get the hell out now and learn English later too.

You're being too dramatic so that your argument begins to make sense. In every country you named, there would be tons of people somehow waking up every morning and putting food on the table. For every illegal immigrant fleeing genuine threat to life, there are dozens who simply want more money. The US does not recognize economic hardship (i.e. less money) as a bona fide grounds for asylum.

Wasn't making a case for a asylum nor making an argument that there aren't tons of people in the Central American countries mentioned that don't lead decent lives.
Only point I was making that for those that do have it rough and for those that are in dire straights and desperate to evacuate their dire situations its not exactly at the forefront of their thoughts to take a friggin ESOL course - something tells me their main priority is getting out of hell first and foremost.
Happy New Year!

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care OP? What have they done to you? Do you get extra money for every child who goes to bed hungry?

* In 2015, the federal government spent 63% of its finances on social programs, including income security, healthcare, education, housing, and recreation. This amounts to $2.5 trillion or an average of $20,210 for every household in the U.S.[116]



† Social programs include income security, healthcare, education, housing, and recreation.
‡ National defense includes military spending and veterans' benefits.
§ General government and debt service includes the executive & legislative branches, tax collection, financial management, and interest payments.
# Economic affairs includes transportation, general economic & labor affairs, agriculture, natural resources, energy, and space. (This excludes spending for infrastructure projects such as new highways, which is not accounted for in this graph.[36])
£ Public order and safety includes police, fire, law courts, prisons, and immigration enforcement.

http://www.justfacts.com/socialspending.asp

Doesn't this include Social Security and Medicare? Ya know, the same SS and Medicare that literally all of us look forward to collecting when we get older?

Newsflash: the republicans want to slash *that* part of the social safety net as well. We have to stop them. All of us...even the yuppies...will need SS and Medicare when we get older. All of us.

Don't let the republicans screw you, your parents, and your kids out of the programs that work. We paid into them, and we should get to collect.

Don’t worry baby boomers, you and aarp will continue to deplete all programs and the social security system Pincus scheme whilst increasing taxes on the 60% of the population that pays income taxes at all. Should be a spectacular hyper inflation ending.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care OP? What have they done to you? Do you get extra money for every child who goes to bed hungry?

Not the OP. I lose money for every child brought here that the parents can't support.

You mean every child the illiterate, unskilled, uneducated illegal immigrant single mom brings and has here.

If parents pays for their own kids, I have no problem who they are.

Anonymous wrote:Let's give OP some context ...

Facts:
57% of self-described conservatives have received benefits from government welfare programs.
56% of whites have received benefits from government welfare programs.
62% of people in rural areas have received benefits from government welfare programs.

If veteran benefits and federal college loans and grants are added to the mix, the proportion of Americans who personally have ever received entitlement benefits rises to 70% and the share of households with at least one recipient grows to 86%.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/12/18/a-bipartisan-nation-of-beneficiaries/

Sounds to me that the immigrant populations are relying on government welfare a lot less than other groups.

Fact number one will go down in 2018 if that included property tax and state tax deductions against federal income tax. Some liberals like to say that is an evil form of aid for people working full time or able to buy a home. Those evil ordinary income suckers!
But thanks for including things that legal dual income couples pay through the nose for and pay 40-50% effectivall in tax rates (fed, state, county, as, fica, Medicare/aid.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care OP? What have they done to you? Do you get extra money for every child who goes to bed hungry?

Not the OP. I lose money for every child brought here that the parents can't support.

You mean every child the illiterate, unskilled, uneducated illegal immigrant single mom brings and has here.

Anonymous wrote:

Lol - well let’s hope you remain totally unfamiliar with perilous predicaments, treacherous conditions, and life-threatening situations my friend because your stubborn preoccupation with nonessential priorities will most certainly be your downfall.

But I doubt you’re that stupid. I understand you have to argue with me just to save face (odd seeing how this is an anonymous forum) but surely if your children were starving and at risk of being kidnapped and forced into child labor or child prostitution and possibly facing death in the crossfire of competing criminal factions you’d be wise enough to get the hell out now and learn English later too.

You're being too dramatic so that your argument begins to make sense. In every country you named, there would be tons of people somehow waking up every morning and putting food on the table. For every illegal immigrant fleeing genuine threat to life, there are dozens who simply want more money. The US does not recognize economic hardship (i.e. less money) as a bona fide grounds for asylum.

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Lawsuit expanded from 400 workers to class action lawsuit against TCS for racism

http://www.newsindiatimes.com/tata-consultancy-ser...5-discriminatory-lawsuit/32581

At Freddie Mac the entire wio department said is 100% South Indian . Indians will only hire other indians

Time to eliminate these Indian racist companies

I am Indian American.. and this is so wrong. This was my observation also when I walked into Freddie Mac, it was overwhelmingly Indian and I don't know how the American bosses let it happen. As having seen some of the corruption back home I will not be surprised if there is some quid pro quo and pay per play scheme going on here.

During the restatement and the 2008 financial crisis a revolving door of New York based mbas operated the firm fired almost every us citizen and replaced with Indian body shops

http://www.freddiemacsucks.com/HR.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/499604/

Here's info on immigrants paying taxes.

Let's give OP some context ...

Facts:
57% of self-described conservatives have received benefits from government welfare programs.
56% of whites have received benefits from government welfare programs.
62% of people in rural areas have received benefits from government welfare programs.

If veteran benefits and federal college loans and grants are added to the mix, the proportion of Americans who personally have ever received entitlement benefits rises to 70% and the share of households with at least one recipient grows to 86%.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/12/18/a-bipartisan-nation-of-beneficiaries/

Sounds to me that the immigrant populations are relying on government welfare a lot less than other groups.

Anonymous wrote:Then there is the Kushner Crime Family that fraudulently sells EB-5 visas to Chinese investors for the low, low price of $500,000 a piece. How about the GOP stop those shenanignas?

Given that visa overstays are outnumbering illegal border crossings, they should just cut out all visas, but instead, Trump increased H2B visas by another whopping 15K. These are the low skill jobs that Americans can do, and these visa workers are more likely to overstay their visas than white collar visa workers.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216

Overstays have exceeded those entering illegally every year since 2007, and there have been half a million more overstays than illegal entries since 2007.

Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.

This trend is expected to continue.

The CMS has previously reported on the dramatic decline in the U.S. undocumented population between 2008 and 2014.