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Anonymous wrote:Rubio reportedly on board ......... all systems are go for a great tax reform package and the elimination of the individual mandate!

Lesson for the day: if you are a R, hold out for entitlement, and they can buy your vote.

You mean they learned from the Democrats, whose campaign strategy for the past 50 years has been "vote for us, and we'll give you lots of free stuff"? Remember how that woman stood up in a Town Hall and said she understood that Obama would pay off her mortgage?

I once asked a friend from a poor family whom her parents voted for while she was growing up.. She said they voted for whoever would give her family the most money, and that was always the Democrats.

Raise taxes and spend more on mindless social programs and liberals will cheer. Cut taxes and reduce regulations and Republicans will applaud.

Anonymous wrote:Remember liberals: elections have consequences as proclaimed by none other than Obama.

So, you may not like some of Trump's policies and actions but he proclaimed what he was going to do all along - and he won the election!

Right. We are a nation of idiots and now led by the biggest Idiot of any President, so the consequence of this election is idiotic legislation.

Anonymous wrote:This tax bill is insanity. Nobody knows what’s in it, but they are all sure it’s going to pass creating huge deficits. What kind of idiot policy cuts taxes during economic expansion? That’s when Government should be raising taxes. Deficit spending worked well to get us out of the financial crisis. That won’t be a possibility next time because of the existing massive debt. Plus, it will happen because Trump is cutting all the regulations that keep businesses honest.

Trump and the GOP don't care and most of their middle and working class supporters don't want to accept that they are or will be cheated.

Trump and the GOP know all they know they need to do to get the unwashed masses in line is go on a tirade that includes the words "Obama," "welfare," "socialist," and don't forget to sprinkle the rant with "God" and "Merry Christmas." And yes, US citizens are just that to Trump and the GOP-- unwashed masses. Let the suckers eat cake. They have tremendous contempt for their supporters and see them as failures who don't deserve help because they were never smart and successful to begin with. The religious politicians are old Puritans. You were not in God's favor to begin with.

Anonymous wrote:Rubio reportedly on board ......... all systems are go for a great tax reform package and the elimination of the individual mandate!

Lesson for the day: if you are a R, hold out for entitlement, and they can buy your vote.

Anonymous wrote:Remember liberals: elections have consequences as proclaimed by none other than Obama.

So, you may not like some of Trump's policies and actions but he proclaimed what he was going to do all along - and he won the election!

The Russian Stooge won the election.

Remember liberals: elections have consequences as proclaimed by none other than Obama.

So, you may not like some of Trump's policies and actions but he proclaimed what he was going to do all along - and he won the election!

Rubio reportedly on board ......... all systems are go for a great tax reform package and the elimination of the individual mandate!

Rubio wanted $2,000 per family or else a no vote.

The GOP voted for $300.

Is that enough for Rubio to come to a yes?

It sounds like it.

Sad

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Anonymous wrote:Rubio is opposing the bill.

Rubio wants an additional entitlement. Money back that never went into the treasury. Increase in refundable child tax credit. Rubio had also been lobbying for refundable FICA.

Both are just ridiculous. http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/marco-rubio-tax-vote/index.html
How much more free stuff is he looking for? Florida has no income tax BUT it is now supporting many from Puerto Rico.

So who cares about free stuff? The tax bill essentially borrows a trillion(or 2) and gives it to corporations. Yes we are borrowing money to give it to corporations. So shut your f’ing mouth and empty another bucket into the pig trough. One more bucket will not make any difference in the ocean of give aways that is this bill.

No need or the bad language. Do you pay taxes? I pay a lot. The discussion is about another entitlement . Corporate taxes can be raised and so can the highest brackets if the tax plan passes. As for CHIP the repubs came up with a funding plan-retirees with income over 500k and lottery winnings count among other things. Dems object. I'm a Dem and wonder why lottery was never included.

“Free stuff” is bad language? Where did you grow up?

I thought lottery winnings were taxed? Or is that just state taxes?

You think they are going to raise the corporate rate? Lol!

I bolded free stuff because that is an entitlement. If this tax plan does not generate the intended results YES I do think they would raise corporate and the high bracket rates. Or add another bracket. Lottery winnings are taxed BUT some programs exclude lottery winnings from income to determine eligibility. You could inherent [or win] millions in one month-get bumped- then reenroll. Yes this really happens-on a state by state basis some like NY attempt to get back welfare and Medicaid and food stamp money.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/medicaid-bill-would-boot-lottery-winners-from-the-program/article/2642887 Also you can get EITC if you qualify and can have 3500 of dividend income. http://www.governing.com/topics/health-human-services/tns-maine-food-stamps-lottery.html In Maine "individuals who were receiving food stamps, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families benefits or MaineCare at the time they won. The winners received more than $22 million in prizes while on welfare programs, according to the department."

Are we sure that Rubio is not in fact a Democrat.

They are the ones who love doling out money in the way of tax credits to people who don't even pay taxes in the first place. It is the Democratic MO - give away what you don't have.

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Anonymous wrote:Rubio is opposing the bill.

Rubio wants an additional entitlement. Money back that never went into the treasury. Increase in refundable child tax credit. Rubio had also been lobbying for refundable FICA.

Both are just ridiculous. http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/marco-rubio-tax-vote/index.html
How much more free stuff is he looking for? Florida has no income tax BUT it is now supporting many from Puerto Rico.

So who cares about free stuff? The tax bill essentially borrows a trillion(or 2) and gives it to corporations. Yes we are borrowing money to give it to corporations. So shut your f’ing mouth and empty another bucket into the pig trough. One more bucket will not make any difference in the ocean of give aways that is this bill.

Yep

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rubio is opposing the bill.

Rubio wants an additional entitlement. Money back that never went into the treasury. Increase in refundable child tax credit. Rubio had also been lobbying for refundable FICA.

Both are just ridiculous. http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/marco-rubio-tax-vote/index.html
How much more free stuff is he looking for? Florida has no income tax BUT it is now supporting many from Puerto Rico.

So who cares about free stuff? The tax bill essentially borrows a trillion(or 2) and gives it to corporations. Yes we are borrowing money to give it to corporations. So shut your f’ing mouth and empty another bucket into the pig trough. One more bucket will not make any difference in the ocean of give aways that is this bill.

No need or the bad language. Do you pay taxes? I pay a lot. The discussion is about another entitlement . Corporate taxes can be raised and so can the highest brackets if the tax plan passes. As for CHIP the repubs came up with a funding plan-retirees with income over 500k and lottery winnings count among other things. Dems object. I'm a Dem and wonder why lottery was never included.

“Free stuff” is bad language? Where did you grow up?

I thought lottery winnings were taxed? Or is that just state taxes?

You think they are going to raise the corporate rate? Lol!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rubio is opposing the bill.

Rubio wants an additional entitlement. Money back that never went into the treasury. Increase in refundable child tax credit. Rubio had also been lobbying for refundable FICA.

Both are just ridiculous. http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/marco-rubio-tax-vote/index.html
How much more free stuff is he looking for? Florida has no income tax BUT it is now supporting many from Puerto Rico.

Yes, please explain. Is this refundable child tax credit given to people who don't even pay taxes? Sounds like a form of welfare.

Yeah this is very disappointing. Their fiscal responsibility has gone out the window.

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Anonymous wrote:Rubio is opposing the bill.

Rubio wants an additional entitlement. Money back that never went into the treasury. Increase in refundable child tax credit. Rubio had also been lobbying for refundable FICA.

Both are just ridiculous. http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/marco-rubio-tax-vote/index.html
How much more free stuff is he looking for? Florida has no income tax BUT it is now supporting many from Puerto Rico.

So who cares about free stuff? The tax bill essentially borrows a trillion(or 2) and gives it to corporations. Yes we are borrowing money to give it to corporations. So shut your f’ing mouth and empty another bucket into the pig trough. One more bucket will not make any difference in the ocean of give aways that is this bill.

No need or the bad language. Do you pay taxes? I pay a lot. The discussion is about another entitlement . Corporate taxes can be raised and so can the highest brackets if the tax plan passes. As for CHIP the repubs came up with a funding plan-retirees with income over 500k and lottery winnings count among other things. Dems object. I'm a Dem and wonder why lottery was never included.