Anonymous
Post 11/29/2017 11:18     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.


+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.


wrong WRONG WRONG!! WRONG!!!!!



Republicans are so funny. None of them can agree on what mattered in 2016. Hell half of them think the other half are RINOs.

Maybe because we are not brain-dead liberals who mindlessly mouth the company line. There were a range of issues, and we eqch had different priorities. For me, it was getting illegal immigration under control and creating a business environment where our country could compete on the global stage. Looks like I'm going to be two for two.


Why was illegal immigration such a burning issue for you?

What Trump policies create a better global business environment?

Because with a $20T debt, we can't even afford to support our legal citizens. Why should we provide for people who break our laws? (And yes, illegal entry is a criminal action, and the costs associated with these illegal aliens result in a net cost of about $100B a year.)

And his reversal of regulations, particularly those associated with time-consuming red tape, has freed up $4B to small businessss. And the corporate tax rate drop - even the anticipation of it - has increased the value of companies significantly and sent the market up 25%.


Thoughts on the proposed tax changes and impact on the deficit?



Would still love to get your opinion on the proposed tax plan.


There are aspects of it I don't like, but nothing is perfect. It will still reduce taxes for most middle class people (real middle class....not the upper-income DCUM crowd who calls themselves middle class). As far as the $1.7T additional debt over 10 years, it's a drop in the bucket to the 9T that Obama added. If the D's weren't worried about that increase, why are they all of sudden worried about a much lesser increase?

Plus, as the economy expands (it already has....to 3%), jobs are returned due to the lowered corporate rate and repatriation, the tax base will increase. We can't afford to run the government when half the people aren't paying in.


So $1.7T to help out the billionaires is cool, but if a tiny fraction of that supports undocumented people you're against it?

Obama was trying to pull us out of a recession (thanks!), not just pad the pockets of his friends.

And I'm sorry but are you saying you think trickle down works? Haven't you been paying attention over the last 30 years?

Anonymous
Post 11/29/2017 11:00     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

Anonymous wrote:Here is the issue

https://www.axios.com/mckinsey-automation-may-throw-800m-people-out-of-work-by-2030-2513416488.html

Many sci-fi movies shows a future with robots and AI doing all of the menial jobs and a severe underclass. How do we adjust our society for that future world?

Is cutting off education and job training and health care the way to ensure the lower and middle classes have a shot when there are no jobs because what would have been available to garner income will be done by robots?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvs7f4UaKLo
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2017 10:57     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.


+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.


wrong WRONG WRONG!! WRONG!!!!!



Republicans are so funny. None of them can agree on what mattered in 2016. Hell half of them think the other half are RINOs.

Maybe because we are not brain-dead liberals who mindlessly mouth the company line. There were a range of issues, and we eqch had different priorities. For me, it was getting illegal immigration under control and creating a business environment where our country could compete on the global stage. Looks like I'm going to be two for two.


Why was illegal immigration such a burning issue for you?

What Trump policies create a better global business environment?

Because with a $20T debt, we can't even afford to support our legal citizens. Why should we provide for people who break our laws? (And yes, illegal entry is a criminal action, and the costs associated with these illegal aliens result in a net cost of about $100B a year.)

And his reversal of regulations, particularly those associated with time-consuming red tape, has freed up $4B to small businessss. And the corporate tax rate drop - even the anticipation of it - has increased the value of companies significantly and sent the market up 25%.


Thoughts on the proposed tax changes and impact on the deficit?



Would still love to get your opinion on the proposed tax plan.


There are aspects of it I don't like, but nothing is perfect. It will still reduce taxes for most middle class people (real middle class....not the upper-income DCUM crowd who calls themselves middle class). As far as the $1.7T additional debt over 10 years, it's a drop in the bucket to the 9T that Obama added. If the D's weren't worried about that increase, why are they all of sudden worried about a much lesser increase?

Plus, as the economy expands (it already has....to 3%), jobs are returned due to the lowered corporate rate and repatriation, the tax base will increase. We can't afford to run the government when half the people aren't paying in.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2017 10:50     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.


+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.


wrong WRONG WRONG!! WRONG!!!!!



Republicans are so funny. None of them can agree on what mattered in 2016. Hell half of them think the other half are RINOs.

Maybe because we are not brain-dead liberals who mindlessly mouth the company line. There were a range of issues, and we eqch had different priorities. For me, it was getting illegal immigration under control and creating a business environment where our country could compete on the global stage. Looks like I'm going to be two for two.


Why was illegal immigration such a burning issue for you?

What Trump policies create a better global business environment?

Because with a $20T debt, we can't even afford to support our legal citizens. Why should we provide for people who break our laws? (And yes, illegal entry is a criminal action, and the costs associated with these illegal aliens result in a net cost of about $100B a year.)

And his reversal of regulations, particularly those associated with time-consuming red tape, has freed up $4B to small businessss. And the corporate tax rate drop - even the anticipation of it - has increased the value of companies significantly and sent the market up 25%.


Thoughts on the proposed tax changes and impact on the deficit?



Would still love to get your opinion on the proposed tax plan.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2017 10:20     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.


+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

-1 they weren't voting on race and culture, or what you refer to as "immigration." They were voting 1) against illegal immigration, around which liberals are accepting, 2) for a conservative SCOTUS, and 3) for bringing back jobs through a more competitive climate. This nonsense about voting based on culture and race is a bunch of BS being advanced by liberals in order instill fear among their base and to turn out the vote.

The liberals have gotten so bad with their accusations of racist that one cannot even criticize any style or whatever if blacks disproportionately are part of that style. Reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize any action of Obama's without your dislike of that action being attributed to racism.


Cultural anxiety. If you are against immigration and want a more conservative supreme court, those are just another manifestation of anxiety about a multicultural future.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

You liberals exasperate me. Whoever said I am against immigration? For the umpteenth time, I am against ILLEGAL immigration. And I want a conservative SCOTUS because I don't like when Justices legislate from the bench to meet a liberal agenda.



Sorry, it doesn't cut it to say you only want to curb illegal immigration because the President you voted for and support has been pushing to deeply cut legal immigration too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/02/trump-gop-senators-to-introduce-bill-to-slash-legal-immigration-levels/?utm_term=.40e872eb96a4

And given the low unemployment rates he's constantly bragging about are we still going to claim that foreigners are coming hear and stealing all of our jobs? Doesn't compute.


Wapo is used toilet paper. Np. Dont believe anything they say since the election. I am hispanic american born here whose parents have always been respectful of American jobs. My parents left when their visa ran out then came back legally. We think employers hiring illegals left and right those employers being kfc, mcdonalds and other fast food joints and restaurants is the reason why illegals keep coming in by foot. No one knows their background. People keep renting to them also. My street had a string of car break ins last christmas right before a house of illegals moved out and as I was lugging in big boxes I bought a car of hispanics most likely illegal too stop and stared. I yelled wtf they were staring at and they sped off.


Did they steal your ability to write a paragraph with proper grammar?


Hello rude liberal. You are an anonymous person posting on a gossip forum where anything goes and you care about grammar? How dumb of you. I will type and iber speed and not care wtf you think of me!


That's nice grandstanding, but even smart conservatives appreciate when people can write clearly enough to be understood. I guess you don't care that you don't seem to have that skill, but then again, maybe you don't really have anything important to say.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2017 09:16     Subject: Re:The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:True. It's the economy, stupid.


And the democrats are still fighting to increase immigration

They have the chance to stop companies giving jobs to illegal aliens but they stop e-verify. Pelosi and chuck say f u to the us workers to get more Silicon Valley money

Trump increased H2B visas by another 15K in his first few days in office. Hatch and Rubio (Rs) have supported H1Bs visas. Please get your head out of the sand. It's businesses, regardless of political affiliation, that takes advantage of foreign workers. And you can thank the conservative SCOTUS for banning campaign finance reform which the Dems pushed for that limits big money donors in politics. Again, get your head out of the sand. And I was trying to be polite here.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2017 09:12     Subject: Re:The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:True. It's the economy, stupid.


And the democrats are still fighting to increase immigration

They have the chance to stop companies giving jobs to illegal aliens but they stop e-verify. Pelosi and chuck say f u to the us workers to get more Silicon Valley money

Tea Party fought against e-verify. The overwhelmingly majority R farmers support foreign workers, especially illegal ones. Heck, Trump himself loves visa workers.

Google how many companies have been fined for hiring illegal immigrants, and what state they are located in. HINT: the biggest is in a red state.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2017 08:12     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:Pro-tip: when a poster starts with "I am...." and then follows up with something incongruous they're sitting in a troll factory in Russia.

Tip: when a poster makes reference to trolls and Russia, he is a liberal with has no substance to back up a debate and resorts to a meaningless retort.


Brexit was clearly influenced by Russian bots.
Catalan was clearly influenced by Russian bots
Our net neutrality rulemaking is being influenced by Russian bots (https://www.wired.com/story/bots-broke-fcc-public-comment-system/)

It is having a direct impact on our global standing and our President is doing nothing about it.

We are becoming a province of Russia. Are you okay with that?
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2017 08:09     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

Here is the issue

https://www.axios.com/mckinsey-automation-may-throw-800m-people-out-of-work-by-2030-2513416488.html

Many sci-fi movies shows a future with robots and AI doing all of the menial jobs and a severe underclass. How do we adjust our society for that future world?

Is cutting off education and job training and health care the way to ensure the lower and middle classes have a shot when there are no jobs because what would have been available to garner income will be done by robots?

Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 23:00     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

Anonymous wrote:Pro-tip: when a poster starts with "I am...." and then follows up with something incongruous they're sitting in a troll factory in Russia.

Tip: when a poster makes reference to trolls and Russia, he is a liberal with has no substance to back up a debate and resorts to a meaningless retort.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 22:53     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

Pro-tip: when a poster starts with "I am...." and then follows up with something incongruous they're sitting in a troll factory in Russia.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 22:46     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.


+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

-1 they weren't voting on race and culture, or what you refer to as "immigration." They were voting 1) against illegal immigration, around which liberals are accepting, 2) for a conservative SCOTUS, and 3) for bringing back jobs through a more competitive climate. This nonsense about voting based on culture and race is a bunch of BS being advanced by liberals in order instill fear among their base and to turn out the vote.

The liberals have gotten so bad with their accusations of racist that one cannot even criticize any style or whatever if blacks disproportionately are part of that style. Reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize any action of Obama's without your dislike of that action being attributed to racism.


Cultural anxiety. If you are against immigration and want a more conservative supreme court, those are just another manifestation of anxiety about a multicultural future.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

You liberals exasperate me. Whoever said I am against immigration? For the umpteenth time, I am against ILLEGAL immigration. And I want a conservative SCOTUS because I don't like when Justices legislate from the bench to meet a liberal agenda.



Sorry, it doesn't cut it to say you only want to curb illegal immigration because the President you voted for and support has been pushing to deeply cut legal immigration too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/02/trump-gop-senators-to-introduce-bill-to-slash-legal-immigration-levels/?utm_term=.40e872eb96a4

And given the low unemployment rates he's constantly bragging about are we still going to claim that foreigners are coming hear and stealing all of our jobs? Doesn't compute.


Wapo is used toilet paper. Np. Dont believe anything they say since the election. I am hispanic american born here whose parents have always been respectful of American jobs. My parents left when their visa ran out then came back legally. We think employers hiring illegals left and right those employers being kfc, mcdonalds and other fast food joints and restaurants is the reason why illegals keep coming in by foot. No one knows their background. People keep renting to them also. My street had a string of car break ins last christmas right before a house of illegals moved out and as I was lugging in big boxes I bought a car of hispanics most likely illegal too stop and stared. I yelled wtf they were staring at and they sped off.


This isn't about what WaPo says, it's about what Trump has been saying. Try and keep up.


I am a new poster not the pp and just sharing my experience with illegals. Try and keep uo!
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 22:44     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.


+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

-1 they weren't voting on race and culture, or what you refer to as "immigration." They were voting 1) against illegal immigration, around which liberals are accepting, 2) for a conservative SCOTUS, and 3) for bringing back jobs through a more competitive climate. This nonsense about voting based on culture and race is a bunch of BS being advanced by liberals in order instill fear among their base and to turn out the vote.

The liberals have gotten so bad with their accusations of racist that one cannot even criticize any style or whatever if blacks disproportionately are part of that style. Reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize any action of Obama's without your dislike of that action being attributed to racism.


Cultural anxiety. If you are against immigration and want a more conservative supreme court, those are just another manifestation of anxiety about a multicultural future.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

You liberals exasperate me. Whoever said I am against immigration? For the umpteenth time, I am against ILLEGAL immigration. And I want a conservative SCOTUS because I don't like when Justices legislate from the bench to meet a liberal agenda.



Sorry, it doesn't cut it to say you only want to curb illegal immigration because the President you voted for and support has been pushing to deeply cut legal immigration too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/02/trump-gop-senators-to-introduce-bill-to-slash-legal-immigration-levels/?utm_term=.40e872eb96a4

And given the low unemployment rates he's constantly bragging about are we still going to claim that foreigners are coming hear and stealing all of our jobs? Doesn't compute.


Wapo is used toilet paper. Np. Dont believe anything they say since the election. I am hispanic american born here whose parents have always been respectful of American jobs. My parents left when their visa ran out then came back legally. We think employers hiring illegals left and right those employers being kfc, mcdonalds and other fast food joints and restaurants is the reason why illegals keep coming in by foot. No one knows their background. People keep renting to them also. My street had a string of car break ins last christmas right before a house of illegals moved out and as I was lugging in big boxes I bought a car of hispanics most likely illegal too stop and stared. I yelled wtf they were staring at and they sped off.


Did they steal your ability to write a paragraph with proper grammar?


Hello rude liberal. You are an anonymous person posting on a gossip forum where anything goes and you care about grammar? How dumb of you. I will type and iber speed and not care wtf you think of me!
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 22:42     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.


+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.


wrong WRONG WRONG!! WRONG!!!!!



Republicans are so funny. None of them can agree on what mattered in 2016. Hell half of them think the other half are RINOs.

Maybe because we are not brain-dead liberals who mindlessly mouth the company line. There were a range of issues, and we eqch had different priorities. For me, it was getting illegal immigration under control and creating a business environment where our country could compete on the global stage. Looks like I'm going to be two for two.


Why was illegal immigration such a burning issue for you?

What Trump policies create a better global business environment?

Because with a $20T debt, we can't even afford to support our legal citizens. Why should we provide for people who break our laws? (And yes, illegal entry is a criminal action, and the costs associated with these illegal aliens result in a net cost of about $100B a year.)

And his reversal of regulations, particularly those associated with time-consuming red tape, has freed up $4B to small businessss. And the corporate tax rate drop - even the anticipation of it - has increased the value of companies significantly and sent the market up 25%.


Thoughts on the proposed tax changes and impact on the deficit?
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2017 22:40     Subject: The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.


+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.


wrong WRONG WRONG!! WRONG!!!!!



Republicans are so funny. None of them can agree on what mattered in 2016. Hell half of them think the other half are RINOs.

Maybe because we are not brain-dead liberals who mindlessly mouth the company line. There were a range of issues, and we eqch had different priorities. For me, it was getting illegal immigration under control and creating a business environment where our country could compete on the global stage. Looks like I'm going to be two for two.


Why was illegal immigration such a burning issue for you?

What Trump policies create a better global business environment?

Because with a $20T debt, we can't even afford to support our legal citizens. Why should we provide for people who break our laws? (And yes, illegal entry is a criminal action, and the costs associated with these illegal aliens result in a net cost of about $100B a year.)

And his reversal of regulations, particularly those associated with time-consuming red tape, has freed up $4B to small businessss. And the corporate tax rate drop - even the anticipation of it - has increased the value of companies significantly and sent the market up 25%.