Also our society (media?) creates this delusion that gross old men are sexually attractive to young pretty women. Charlie rose said he thought the women were into him!

Anonymous wrote:"Oh no! the opposite sex finds me too attractive. I have to live with people constantly desiring me and trying to date me!"

- said about 1% of men ever

I acknowledge that men have no perspective on what it means to be a woman constantly fending off suitors and sifting through the dozens of frogs to find their prince charming.

But women need to admit that being so desired and sought after is an entitlement that most men can only dream of. Men are accustomed to being the chaser so they can't begin to understand why women wouldn't love the attention. I'm sure it makes life much harder for women in some ways, but then I'm also sure it is pretty awesome most of the time.

Women have no sense whatsoever of what it means to be a man trying to find a mate only to be rejected at least 8 out of 10 times. Women are aghast when they are rejected, but yet it's men's egos that are mocked as being fragile. You've never seen a fragile ego until you've seen a woman get rejected!

Assuming you're straight, imagine that you are constantly being harassed by gay men twice your size that you have zero interest in and you aren't sure they'll take no for an answer. Happy and grateful for the attention?

While all of this is disturbing, I am saddened at how many very young girls were harassed and groped at 13 and younger. That’s not harassment, it’s pedophilia. There is no age where harassment of another is “acceptable” but the assaulting of children, of either gender, is a crime.

Looking back I don't recall receiving sexual looks from men until I was about 15-16. I was a bit of a late bloomer, so I didn't start coming into my own until I was about that age.

Yes. I counted 43 times somebody somebody came up to me or said something about my appearance when I was ca 16. I remember writing the times down and what happened. It was new to me suddenly (I had grown up on men's eyes) and didn't really have a name for it all and didn't really think what was happening. Want to add that I come from a cold nordic country where a lot of it is a no-no culturally, but it still happened.
There were guys commenting on my breast muscles, my long legs (that stranger stopped his car to tell me that), the worst was when I found my drunk neighbor standing in my bedroom in his underwear. I screamed my head off, he left, my mom came, but thought I had had a night mare. It was a nightmare alright.
I wasn't even sexually active nor did I dress provocatively.
It was more noticeable in US though, because it happened almost always by complete strangers and on the street.
I'm almost 40 now and the street cat-calling has mostly ended. The comments on my breast size or my butt (when the guys notice it at all) haven't stopped at work. They also add that they like older women. That's new now that I'm close to 40. So, the harassing has evolved I'd say.
The very first harassment happened when I was ca 10 by my friends 17-18 year old cousin. He climbed on top of me and made his "movements". My friend had to run for help. I was quite an ugly 10-year old and was wearing the heaviest wool sweater. Definitely was not trying to attract a male.

Reconsider how you're raising your children, people.

Anonymous wrote:"Oh no! the opposite sex finds me too attractive. I have to live with people constantly desiring me and trying to date me!"

- said about 1% of men ever

I acknowledge that men have no perspective on what it means to be a woman constantly fending off suitors and sifting through the dozens of frogs to find their prince charming.

But women need to admit that being so desired and sought after is an entitlement that most men can only dream of. Men are accustomed to being the chaser so they can't begin to understand why women wouldn't love the attention. I'm sure it makes life much harder for women in some ways, but then I'm also sure it is pretty awesome most of the time.

Women have no sense whatsoever of what it means to be a man trying to find a mate only to be rejected at least 8 out of 10 times. Women are aghast when they are rejected, but yet it's men's egos that are mocked as being fragile. You've never seen a fragile ego until you've seen a woman get rejected!

I don't give a shit that men are rejected. Sorry dude, you're not entitled to anything. You're not entitled to attention, or being given a chance, or a date, or a smile, or anything. Women owe you nothing.

And no, it's not "pretty awesome most of the time" to be never left alone. Seriously - just leave us alone or treat us like human beings. But mostly, just leave us the hell alone.

Anonymous wrote:A stranger grabbed under my skirt on a city bus when I was 12. I have been catcalled literally thousands of times, followed by men both on foot and in cars while walking-day and nighttime. A homeless man exposed himself to me and made lewd comments. A colleague made sexual comments to me, another asked me for dates almost every day. Strangers have made sexual comments and motions in public places like restaurants. Men I've gently rejected in bars have turned lewd and scarry fast. A high school teacher commented on my looks inappropriately. So...yes. Note that nobody intervened on my behalf in any if the above situations though most took place in public.

People need to STOP "minding their own business".

When you suspect something wrong,
speak up --- loud and clear.

A stranger grabbed under my skirt on a city bus when I was 12. I have been catcalled literally thousands of times, followed by men both on foot and in cars while walking-day and nighttime. A homeless man exposed himself to me and made lewd comments. A colleague made sexual comments to me, another asked me for dates almost every day. Strangers have made sexual comments and motions in public places like restaurants. Men I've gently rejected in bars have turned lewd and scarry fast. A high school teacher commented on my looks inappropriately. So...yes. Note that nobody intervened on my behalf in any if the above situations though most took place in public.

^ GOOSE, not good

If you are an 8+, you will be harassed all the time.

If you are a typical American woman (unkempt, fat rolls, rude), some drunk creep MAY good you once in your life if you are lucky.

Just the media focusing on it now unlike before. Nothing has changed.

OP, the answer is yes. It's the norm in our society.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Oh no! the opposite sex finds me too attractive. I have to live with people constantly desiring me and trying to date me!"

- said about 1% of men ever

I acknowledge that men have no perspective on what it means to be a woman constantly fending off suitors and sifting through the dozens of frogs to find their prince charming.

But women need to admit that being so desired and sought after is an entitlement that most men can only dream of. Men are accustomed to being the chaser so they can't begin to understand why women wouldn't love the attention. I'm sure it makes life much harder for women in some ways, but then I'm also sure it is pretty awesome most of the time.

Women have no sense whatsoever of what it means to be a man trying to find a mate only to be rejected at least 8 out of 10 times. Women are aghast when they are rejected, but yet it's men's egos that are mocked as being fragile. You've never seen a fragile ego until you've seen a woman get rejected!

You remind of the firefly that was desperately still lighting up in my garden late last August.

Yes. My God, the delusion.

I was sexually assaulted for the first time when I was 13. Not the last time, but that was the first. The fact that there is a man out there who is sick enough in the head to be jealous of that experience because it isn't "rejection" is shocking to me.

Complaining about regular dating and then comparing it to those of us talking about being abused, assaulted or raped is pretty disingenuous. Your struggles with dating and wishing you could get all of he attention women get doesn't quite compare to how I felt when a man decided to shove his penis in my mouth when I was 12. But you had to come in and give your mighty opinion on a topic the OP asked women about. I'm so glad we could have your amazing, insightful thoughts. ?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Oh no! the opposite sex finds me too attractive. I have to live with people constantly desiring me and trying to date me!"

- said about 1% of men ever

I acknowledge that men have no perspective on what it means to be a woman constantly fending off suitors and sifting through the dozens of frogs to find their prince charming.

But women need to admit that being so desired and sought after is an entitlement that most men can only dream of. Men are accustomed to being the chaser so they can't begin to understand why women wouldn't love the attention. I'm sure it makes life much harder for women in some ways, but then I'm also sure it is pretty awesome most of the time.

Women have no sense whatsoever of what it means to be a man trying to find a mate only to be rejected at least 8 out of 10 times. Women are aghast when they are rejected, but yet it's men's egos that are mocked as being fragile. You've never seen a fragile ego until you've seen a woman get rejected!

You remind of the firefly that was desperately still lighting up in my garden late last August.

Yes. My God, the delusion.

I was sexually assaulted for the first time when I was 13. Not the last time, but that was the first. The fact that there is a man out there who is sick enough in the head to be jealous of that experience because it isn't "rejection" is shocking to me.