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Anonymous wrote:Jeez dude, I'm Armenian and nose jobs are a #1 popular procedure in Yerevan because among our many blessings are huge, prominent noses. No girl wants that, we always hated it and the second we could, all the girls rushed to correct. It doesn't make us look any whiter, we still love our black hair, thick eyebrows and olive skin, but an authentic Armenian nose, no thank you, keep it, I'll take my smaller straight one now. Stop with shaming people for wanting to improve their appearance.

Sounds to me like you are just trying to fit into the white Western European society to climb the social ladder.

Anonymous wrote:I wish some people would get rhinoplasty. Too thin hawkish noses are ugly, wierd and make whistling breathing noises. Too wide a nose is ugly. Triangular shaped noses or ones with huge nostrils are ugly too. Now I will say, I loove my nose. It is the cutest, most proportional button nose with no upturning at all. Nice, petite but not narrow nostrils. My girls were lucky they have my nose.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has a severely deviated septum, can only breathe out of one nostril and hates her nose. We are making her wait until the summer before senior year.

Np: I think those are two very different things. I had a severe deviated septum, as well, and had it fixed in high school and it did not change the appearance/shape of my nose at all.

"Deviated septum" is how you get insurance to pay for a nose job.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has a severely deviated septum, can only breathe out of one nostril and hates her nose. We are making her wait until the summer before senior year.

Np: I think those are two very different things. I had a severe deviated septum, as well, and had it fixed in high school and it did not change the appearance/shape of my nose at all.

"Deviated septum" is how you get insurance to pay for a nose job.

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Anonymous wrote:When she can pay for it herself.

Yes, this is not something I would do as a parent. I don't like the message it sends about a parent's opinion of her child's looks. (Exception - if the child was injured in an accident leading to the nose reduction, had medical issues with a deviated septum etc.) Sorry but I don't compare a surgery with braces - one is more invasive than the other, and misaligned teeth can lead to long term implications with the jaw and bite.

The money should come from the (now adult) child as a sign of commitment to a serious procedure, and a show of serious intent. Every month that is saved towards the procedure is a month of contemplation about whether that is something she really wants to do.

I would fully support my daughter's decision to do this after age 18 if that is what she chose to do. Might even give a gift towards it, but wouldn't pay the full amount, ever.

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Anonymous wrote:There is NOTHING wrong with someone having a nose job to fix a nose they hate. That person is the one who has to look at it for their entire life. The PP opining against nose jobs are jack-holes. Yes, let your DD have one as soon as she is 16 or so, whenever the doctor says its okay.

The problem is that they hate their nose because it doesn't look like Irish Jessica's nose. That's what's sad and wrong. Your typical, Western European white girl is not surgically altering herself to look like a culture that isn't hers. It is a sad, sad thing.

Sure she is. She's getting breast augmentation, or whatever people do to make a non-flat butt. She's doing things to make her lips larger or her eye-lashes more noticeable. She's bleaching her teeth and spending hours on her hair and makeup.

Some of these things are minor and we don't even think about it. Others we criticize. Many of these women and girls are spending large amounts of time monitoring their eating and exercise to try and fit within a window of acceptable body types. This affects everyone.

I don't think it's any one persons responsibility to be the champion of a particular feature. If OPs daughter hates her nose, and OP has no reason to think it's a symptom of a larger issue, then why on earth should it fall to OPs daughter to thwart all the messages women get blasted with? There's nothing wrong with doing things for yourself even if they conform to an intrusive, abusive culture. OPs daughter has to live with her nose.

Maybe if she wants to attract low class guys

In higher ses and educated circles, the vineyard vines/Lilly p/Ralph Lauren model look is what is saught after - it doesn’t include massive boobs and big butts

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has a severely deviated septum, can only breathe out of one nostril and hates her nose. We are making her wait until the summer before senior year.

Anonymous wrote:When she can pay for it herself.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has a severely deviated septum, can only breathe out of one nostril and hates her nose. We are making her wait until the summer before senior year.

Np: I think those are two very different things. I had a severe deviated septum, as well, and had it fixed in high school and it did not change the appearance/shape of my nose at all.

Anonymous wrote:I knew a girl who got hers done the summer before high school and I quietly (in my 16 yr old brain) thought she was too young.

If the facial bones have finished growing, okay. Otherwise, wait.

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Anonymous wrote:There is NOTHING wrong with someone having a nose job to fix a nose they hate. That person is the one who has to look at it for their entire life. The PP opining against nose jobs are jack-holes. Yes, let your DD have one as soon as she is 16 or so, whenever the doctor says its okay.

The problem is that they hate their nose because it doesn't look like Irish Jessica's nose. That's what's sad and wrong. Your typical, Western European white girl is not surgically altering herself to look like a culture that isn't hers. It is a sad, sad thing.

Sure she is. She's getting breast augmentation, or whatever people do to make a non-flat butt. She's doing things to make her lips larger or her eye-lashes more noticeable. She's bleaching her teeth and spending hours on her hair and makeup.

Some of these things are minor and we don't even think about it. Others we criticize. Many of these women and girls are spending large amounts of time monitoring their eating and exercise to try and fit within a window of acceptable body types. This affects everyone.

I don't think it's any one persons responsibility to be the champion of a particular feature. If OPs daughter hates her nose, and OP has no reason to think it's a symptom of a larger issue, then why on earth should it fall to OPs daughter to thwart all the messages women get blasted with? There's nothing wrong with doing things for yourself even if they conform to an intrusive, abusive culture. OPs daughter has to live with her nose.

Maybe if she wants to attract low class guys

In higher ses and educated circles, the vineyard vines/Lilly p/Ralph Lauren model look is what is saught after - it doesn’t include massive boobs and big butts

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Anonymous wrote:The idea that there are large groups of young women surgically altering their faces is horrible. If everyone just kept their noses it would be normal.

+1

The phrasing of the thread title "her nose job" just makes me cringe -- like she's destined to have one and it's simply a matter of timing when to get her allotted nose job.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to be in the "wait until 18" camp but I'm watching my really well endowed daughter struggle with how well endowed she is, and I'm finding myself thinking that if she asked for a reduction at 16 or so, I'd probably take her to talk to a doctor.

Find a doctor you trust. Talk to the doctor.

Off topic, but I have two friends who had breast reductions in their late teens/early 20s who were not able to breastfeed after they had children. They claim no-one ever told them about that side effect. I think they were told but didn't pay attention.

I had a Breast reduction right before my 18th birthday. 4 years later at 22, I couldn't breastfeed easily. Lactation consultant blamed the reduction. I am not a fan of the scars and my nipples now, it didn't end up as nice as I had pictured. Plus they grew back when I gained weight.

This is really sad. You had elective surgery on your breasts before you were were old enough to vote then four years later you have a baby you can’t feed naturally and you gained weight so your big breasts returned.