Anonymous wrote:How disgusting Mila and Ashton wrote letters. Gross fake wile celebs.

I think too many people try to be hip and use words like some without understanding the meaning. Please stop he has your take away the true meaning when you use it inappropriately for everything you may disagree with.

While I am happy a rapist has finally come to justice, I am sure his friends who’ve known him for years saw Masterson in a different light. They could not imagine the monster painted by the victims. I’m sure if someone I loved and befriended for decades was accused of such heinous acts, I would not automatically assume victims of decades past were telling the truth. It would take time for me and most humans to digest the truth and act accordingly. Like all letters to the judge, their’s were based on their relationship with masterson.

I feel for his wife. She's the daughter of a predator and then married a predator. That's a lot to take.

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Anonymous wrote:How disgusting Mila and Ashton wrote letters. Gross fake wile celebs.

That’s a tough one for me.
If they are friends, which they have been for a very long time, they likely do not believe that their friend is capable of such atrocities.
A character letter doesn’t speak to the veracity of the charge. It just says we know him to be a swell guy, and we love and trust him, etc.
If you were accused of doing these things and you swore up and down to your friends and to the world that you didn’t do it —wouldn’t you hope that one or two of those friends would say “yes of course I will write a character reference for you”

They may truly believe him to be innocent.
And in that case, it isn’t disgusting for them to write a letter on his behalf that says something to the effect of “these accusations are not aligned with the person that I’ve known him to be over the past 30 years”

I can't view it this way because I've experienced, as a rape survivor, being told by people "that's just not who he is," and it's just gaslighting. Good for you he never raped you, but you don't actually know he is, and acting like your experience with him can be placed next to my experience and weighed equally is BS.

Statements like this also tend to emphasize to survivors that they were chosen as victims specifically because they lacked the power and social capital of others. Masterson would never have attacked Kunis because she, like him, was famous and wealthy and there was no power differential to exploit. He only raped people he could dominate. This is a horrible feeling as a survivor, to realize you were chosen for your relative weakness, that your attacker knew people would be less likely to care about what happens to you or believe what you have to say.

And usually it works, and it dies so specifically because people in power will circle up and protect one of their own. Which is what Mila and Ashton were doing. Glad to see it didnt work this time.

Anonymous wrote:How disgusting Mila and Ashton wrote letters. Gross fake wile celebs.

That’s a tough one for me.
If they are friends, which they have been for a very long time, they likely do not believe that their friend is capable of such atrocities.
A character letter doesn’t speak to the veracity of the charge. It just says we know him to be a swell guy, and we love and trust him, etc.
If you were accused of doing these things and you swore up and down to your friends and to the world that you didn’t do it —wouldn’t you hope that one or two of those friends would say “yes of course I will write a character reference for you”

They may truly believe him to be innocent.
And in that case, it isn’t disgusting for them to write a letter on his behalf that says something to the effect of “these accusations are not aligned with the person that I’ve known him to be over the past 30 years”

Anonymous wrote:I was waiting to see what Leah Remini had to say “I am relieved that this dangerous r*pit will be off the streets and unable to violently a$$ault and r*pe women with the help of Scientology, a multi-billion-dollar criminal organization with tax-exempt status, Hearing the survivors read their victim impact statements aloud in court while the man who r*ped them and some of the very Scientologists who terrorized them over two decades were just a few feet away displayed a level of bravery that I am in awe of."

She is really really brave. Unbelievably so.

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Anonymous wrote:30-life sounds right. I"m sure he'll aslo get to experience what his victims experienced.

Doesn't that seem like a lot for the rape of two women? Yes he deserves prison but it sounds like more than is usually handed. Mike Tyson got 3 years for one rape. Most men either get off with no jail time or only do a few months. Brock Turner - 6 months and was released 3 months early.

It's more than most rapists get, but certainly 25 years is not too much for raping someone. All the other sentences were way, WAY too short.

I know someone in MD who got 30 years for gang raping and robbing her (a minor) with a gun. 30+ years seems excessive.

Stop comparing his sentence to other people's and compare his sentence to his crime. 25 years is NOT too long for rape. Please do not downplay how wrong it is to rape.

OK but society should not be handing 6 month sentences to one person and LIFE sentences to another. That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment which is illegal. So where is the justification?

Finally a judge delivered the correct sentence. This should be shown as an example to other judges of what to do.

+1

Part of the reason that this sentence approached appropriately tough is that Scientology shielded Masterson as well as stalking and harassing the victims. He should have just taken his lumps back when this was first brought up; he hid behind his cult.

This.

It’s truly horrifying what the victims went through first from Danny and then from Scientology operatives—and I’m looking forward to the civil lawsuit that will allow what they do to be out in full display.
Unfortunately they have a ridiculous amount of money and could bankrupt the litigants before they get to a judgement, but maybe the public will finally be ready to hear it.

It would be fascinating to know how they’re going to spin this internally. The message for years within Scientology has been that Danny was innocent.

It will continue to be this.
And those who believe otherwise are just SPs or are connected to SPs who are trying to bring down Scientology. And they will be told not to read stories that suggest otherwise bc they can’t be trusted.

*woke

How disgusting Mila and Ashton wrote letters. Gross fake wile celebs.

I was waiting to see what Leah Remini had to say “I am relieved that this dangerous r*pit will be off the streets and unable to violently a$$ault and r*pe women with the help of Scientology, a multi-billion-dollar criminal organization with tax-exempt status, Hearing the survivors read their victim impact statements aloud in court while the man who r*ped them and some of the very Scientologists who terrorized them over two decades were just a few feet away displayed a level of bravery that I am in awe of."

Anonymous wrote:Former prosecutor here with a point of clarification:

The sentences were 15 year to life for rape. He got two sentences for two separate offenses. The court has discretion as to whether such sentences are served concurrently or consecutively - she chose to impose a consecutive term which is why he has to serve 30 before parole eligibility. I have no doubt that in consideration of this decision she focused on his continued protestations of innocence and the harassment of the victims by his agents in the church of Scientology.

That and he drugged the victims

Wow to the verdict. I'm thinking about those survivors today and am impressed with their perseverance through a terrible ordeal. Wishing them peace and love tonight.

As a survivor of rape and another sexual assault, I'm shocked at the idea of someone actually being held accountable in this manner and almost don't know what to think. It's so rare that it feels imaginary to me. I don't even know how to process it.

Ugh, looks like Ashton and Mila sent letters of support for Danny!

Anonymous wrote:The outrage over this verdict is mystifying. They finally get it right and you mad?

People don't actually want rape to be punished. They want to act like they think it's a terrible, horrible, no good very bad thing, but they also want to equivocate that each rape is a snowflake and the special circumstances (a/k/a whether that particular girl really deserves compassion) must be examined closely. In the end, very few rapes should actually be punished in this metric: usually those committed by homeless or crazy people, by brown people against white people, or that also included a murder. The others usually get "well, at least it wasn't [XYZ]" treatment from people who insist they hate rape and rapists.

Margaret Atwood nailed this dichotomy in the Handmaid's Tale - gin up outrage but don't actually punish the rapists, use it to target undesirables you wanted to get rid of anyway and call yourself a champion of women.

Former prosecutor here with a point of clarification:

The sentences were 15 year to life for rape. He got two sentences for two separate offenses. The court has discretion as to whether such sentences are served concurrently or consecutively - she chose to impose a consecutive term which is why he has to serve 30 before parole eligibility. I have no doubt that in consideration of this decision she focused on his continued protestations of innocence and the harassment of the victims by his agents in the church of Scientology.

Release Danny’s audits!