Anonymous wrote:That's not true. Cambridge is slightly easier to get into than HYPS. Historically, US applicants have seen acceptance rates ranging from 11.5-17%.
In our experience, the students who went to Cambridge/Oxford from the US got rejected from HYPS but did often get into other Ivies and top schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We'll just have to agree to disagree. I do believe Oxford and Cambridge are in the same level, but I don't think they are as difficult to get into as HYPS. Yes, only the cream of the crop applies and gets in, but the same is the case with HYPS and those have a far lower acceptance rate to boot.
Because everyone applies to HYPS. They give excellent financial aid if you make <$60k, love hooks,... I hear people come up with a reasonable list and then add “ HYPS, because it’s HYPS”....which is why their accepatamce rate is <10%. Only a certain bunch apply to Oxford/Cambridge....people who are comfortable with international, don’t mind being far from home as 18-19yo, have funds to travel, and have super high stats! I don’t know bout financial aid, but if they don’t offer much then add people who can pay full freight to the mix, and now you’ve cut down your number of applications; So it’s not easier to get in, there are fewer people applying. and it’s a niche group where almost all of them are qualified, so I would say it’s harder to get in.
Cambridge is much easy than HYPS
Entry requirements
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Anonymous wrote:
Berkeley,UVA,CMU,UMCP,TA&M
Stats
SAT 1480, ACT 34, GPA 4.00 and 4.6 w, NHS,honors and 6 APs
OP, I hope you don't take this the wrong way but I don't think your DC is as competitive as you think. Given 4.6 wt GPA, I assume you are from MCPS (FCPS only give .5 to honors, I think) and given DC has 6 APs, I assume he has taken mostly honors courses. So, while his test scores are respectable, there are literally thousands of kids with similar or better stats in MCPS. For UMD, I think you DC will get in no problem but probably not good enough for merit scholarship - nothing significant anyway. I say this so you can calibrate your DC's list of schools and add more safety schools. Good luck.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We'll just have to agree to disagree. I do believe Oxford and Cambridge are in the same level, but I don't think they are as difficult to get into as HYPS. Yes, only the cream of the crop applies and gets in, but the same is the case with HYPS and those have a far lower acceptance rate to boot.
Because everyone applies to HYPS. They give excellent financial aid if you make <$60k, love hooks,... I hear people come up with a reasonable list and then add “ HYPS, because it’s HYPS”....which is why their accepatamce rate is <10%. Only a certain bunch apply to Oxford/Cambridge....people who are comfortable with international, don’t mind being far from home as 18-19yo, have funds to travel, and have super high stats! I don’t know bout financial aid, but if they don’t offer much then add people who can pay full freight to the mix, and now you’ve cut down your number of applications; So it’s not easier to get in, there are fewer people applying. and it’s a niche group where almost all of them are qualified, so I would say it’s harder to get in.
Anonymous wrote:We'll just have to agree to disagree. I do believe Oxford and Cambridge are in the same level, but I don't think they are as difficult to get into as HYPS. Yes, only the cream of the crop applies and gets in, but the same is the case with HYPS and those have a far lower acceptance rate to boot.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cambridge is crazy competitive to get into, if your kid is not getting into HPYS he or she is not getting into Cambridge.
LOL. I know right? OP is in lalaland.
Not OP.
But Cambridge doesn't take extracurriculars into consideration. Things like SAT 2s and AP exam grades count for admissions for US students, unlike most elite US schools.
So a very high stat student who doesn't have that extra whatever that HYPS wants, could get into Cambridge, or Oxford, somewhat more easily.
Yes they do. I applied very far back but I had to have interviews when I applied to both Oxford and Cambridge. I went to an elite school where most students got straight As and they took one student from my school. I also recall essays.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about Canada and the Swiss system?
U of Toronto is like Oxbridge. McGill somewhat more holistic like US.
No clue re Swiss.
Anonymous wrote:What about Canada and the Swiss system?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, but those aren't extracurriculars in the traditional sense as HYPS look for.
The essay and interview are academic in nature- to assess your fit for the program and your knowledge/potential. Getting into Cambridge and Oxford is almost fully academic.
Anonymous wrote:Yes, but those aren't extracurriculars in the traditional sense as HYPS look for.
The essay and interview are academic in nature- to assess your fit for the program and your knowledge/potential. Getting into Cambridge and Oxford is almost fully academic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cambridge is crazy competitive to get into, if your kid is not getting into HPYS he or she is not getting into Cambridge.
LOL. I know right? OP is in lalaland.
Not OP.
But Cambridge doesn't take extracurriculars into consideration. Things like SAT 2s and AP exam grades count for admissions for US students, unlike most elite US schools.
So a very high stat student who doesn't have that extra whatever that HYPS wants, could get into Cambridge, or Oxford, somewhat more easily.