Anonymous
10/09/2017 18:38
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hooray! Now THIS is the main issue that got Trump the win - reasonable laws that put American citizens before illegal immigrants, or immigrants in general, when determining who is admitted to our country, other than those seeking assylum (which must be better proven). While the proposal in its entirety might seem far-reaching, it's an excellent starting point for negotiations with the D's who want to protect DACA.
I'm sure the libsters will pick apart the points they disagree with (which will be many) and use this to viciously attack Trump voters once again, but....fellow conservatives....don't you believe much of this is just common sense?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/8/trump-send-70-point-immigration-enforcement-list-c/?ref=hvper.com
"hooray" indeed. You sound quite pleased, almost foaming at the mouth, at using the daca kids as leverage to build a useless, money wasting wall. This administration is inept and will fail at this, but keep writing long winded diatribes if it helps you get out your xenophobic wet dreams.
Anonymous wrote:
You guys know less than nothing about economics. There are more jobs and better economies in places that have immigrant workers than in places that do not; not just more jobs for the immigrants but for everyone. There are no places with sustained economic growth without immigrant labor.
sorry, you seemed to have failed the fundamental lesson of supply and demand. The only people that benefit from large immigration are corporate CEOs. There is no shortage of workers in US. There are bunch of corporations working the political system for their own profits, at the expense of workers.
"[To attract] workers, the employer may have to increase his wage offer. ... So when you hear an employer saying he needs immigrants to fill a "labor shortage'', remember what you are hearing: a cry for a labor subsidy to allow the employer to avoid the normal functioning of the labor market."
-1990 Congressional Testimony of Dr. Michael S. Teitelbaum
http://users.nber.org/~sewp/references/archive/weinsteinhowandwhygovernment.pdf
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Anonymous
10/09/2017 18:34
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about birthright citizenship? I knew a family who had at least 10 tourist visa visitors give birth.
There are also birthright tourism companies that bring an illegal to the states in her 9th month, she gives birth to an anchor baby, and then they both go home. Now if things go south for the family, he's a U.S. citizen and moves back here to get welfare benefits, food stamps, etc. It's almost like an insurance policy.
Where did all you weird ass, staunch conservatives come from? I know you all like simplistic answers for complex issues. It's evident in your posts. But are you idiots even posting from dc? This is a forum for dc urban moms and dads. People who aren't flyover state rubes. Are you those people? Are you posting from a sh*tty state where your stupid arguments hold water? You'd get laughed out of the beltway if you actually lived in dc.
+1
Plus, it costs about $80,000 to $100,000 to come here and have a baby. Are you saying that someone spends that kind of money in the hope that if they go broke 25 years in the future, their kid can sponsor them and they can move to the US and qualify for $170 a month in SNAP-- for their entire family-- after the mandatory 5 year waiting period. Seems like they could come up with a better plan. Like putting the money in a savings account or an index fund. They would definately have $170 a month 30 years later.
Flyover Trumpkins really live down to their reputation.
Anonymous
10/09/2017 18:25
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:A 70 point immigration plan. FFS. Laws about complex issues are complex. I mean-- Trumps haven't been. But in the real government they are. But only Trump would want to make sure he got credit for coming up with 70 points (not 68!!!!!).
Complex laws on a complex issue? What is complex about a neighbor allowing her daughter plus nieces etc to stay in her house for birthright citizenship ? All flew over on tourist visas. I see no complexity in this NOR persons who overstayed tourist or student visas.
How complex is the ACA act funding public health clinics when patients are listed in reports as no insurance, Medicaid, private insurance etc? Then we look at the demographics. It's only complex because people came here and won't leave.
Anonymous
10/09/2017 18:24
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we just get rid of all the ESOL kids in FFX so I can send my kids to the local school I'm paying out of the nose in taxes for?
Xenophobe.
No, really. Just an Illegal-phobe.
Anonymous
10/09/2017 18:22
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Can we just get rid of all the ESOL kids in FFX so I can send my kids to the local school I'm paying out of the nose in taxes for?
Xenophobe.
Anonymous
10/09/2017 18:21
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about birthright citizenship? I knew a family who had at least 10 tourist visa visitors give birth.
There are also birthright tourism companies that bring an illegal to the states in her 9th month, she gives birth to an anchor baby, and then they both go home. Now if things go south for the family, he's a U.S. citizen and moves back here to get welfare benefits, food stamps, etc. It's almost like an insurance policy.
Where did all you weird ass, staunch conservatives come from? I know you all like simplistic answers for complex issues. It's evident in your posts. But are you idiots even posting from dc? This is a forum for dc urban moms and dads. People who aren't flyover state rubes. Are you those people? Are you posting from a sh*tty state where your stupid arguments hold water? You'd get laughed out of the beltway if you actually lived in dc.
All you people do when presented with a questionable practice like birthright tourism companies - designed to help illegals exploit the system and get U.S. benefits for their babies - is personally denigrate the person who brought up the practice? And, FYI, I am a native Washingtonian, and other than my college years (in a liberal NE state), have always lived here.
So tell me....you disagree that we should shut down these birthright tourism groups? Or would you prefer to continue to defend illegals who seek to exploit the country's antiquated anchor laws and instead insult law-abiding, taxpaying Americans? Hint: Your answer is why yoU LOST.
Just read the college forum. The educated elite do not socialize with non Ivy's
...and you also lost with your disdainful remarks about people who don't live on either of the Elitist Coasts. Snob.
NP
Can you point out these disdainful remarks? I can't seem to find them. Thanks.
If you couldn't see them, it's possible that you're in agreement and don't notice elitist put-downs of middle-Anericans. I bolded them for you above....plenty of put-downs for "idiots" living in "sh*tty states," "flyover state rubes," "laughed out of DC if you actually lived here" -plenty of contempt and disdain in those comments. Why is ANY of that necessary when discussing the very questionable practice of anchor-baby tourism companies?
Anonymous
10/09/2017 18:19
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Can we just get rid of all the ESOL kids in FFX so I can send my kids to the local school I'm paying out of the nose in taxes for?
I hear that is already happening in fcps. Major drop in esols this year. Like 33% of last year
Anonymous
10/09/2017 18:18
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Hooray! Now THIS is the main issue that got Trump the win - reasonable laws that put American citizens before illegal immigrants, or immigrants in general, when determining who is admitted to our country, other than those seeking assylum (which must be better proven). While the proposal in its entirety might seem far-reaching, it's an excellent starting point for negotiations with the D's who want to protect DACA.
I'm sure the libsters will pick apart the points they disagree with (which will be many) and use this to viciously attack Trump voters once again, but....fellow conservatives....don't you believe much of this is just common sense?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/8/trump-send-70-point-immigration-enforcement-list-c/?ref=hvper.com
Yes. Reason why she voted for him.
Anonymous
10/09/2017 18:11
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Can we just get rid of all the ESOL kids in FFX so I can send my kids to the local school I'm paying out of the nose in taxes for?
Anonymous
10/09/2017 16:05
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:A 70 point immigration plan. FFS. Laws about complex issues are complex. I mean-- Trumps haven't been. But in the real government they are. But only Trump would want to make sure he got credit for coming up with 70 points (not 68!!!!!).
70 points! People are saying that no immigration plan has ever been so big!
Anonymous
10/09/2017 16:03
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about birthright citizenship? I knew a family who had at least 10 tourist visa visitors give birth.
There are also birthright tourism companies that bring an illegal to the states in her 9th month, she gives birth to an anchor baby, and then they both go home. Now if things go south for the family, he's a U.S. citizen and moves back here to get welfare benefits, food stamps, etc. It's almost like an insurance policy.
Where did all you weird ass, staunch conservatives come from? I know you all like simplistic answers for complex issues. It's evident in your posts. But are you idiots even posting from dc? This is a forum for dc urban moms and dads. People who aren't flyover state rubes. Are you those people? Are you posting from a sh*tty state where your stupid arguments hold water? You'd get laughed out of the beltway if you actually lived in dc.
All you people do when presented with a questionable practice like birthright tourism companies - designed to help illegals exploit the system and get U.S. benefits for their babies - is personally denigrate the person who brought up the practice? And, FYI, I am a native Washingtonian, and other than my college years (in a liberal NE state), have always lived here.
So tell me....you disagree that we should shut down these birthright tourism groups? Or would you prefer to continue to defend illegals who seek to exploit the country's antiquated anchor laws and instead insult law-abiding, taxpaying Americans? Hint: Your answer is why yoU LOST.
...and you also lost with your disdainful remarks about people who don't live on either of the Elitist Coasts. Snob.
NP
Can you point out these disdainful remarks? I can't seem to find them. Thanks.
If you couldn't see them, it's possible that you're in agreement and don't notice elitist put-downs of middle-Anericans. I bolded them for you above....plenty of put-downs for "idiots" living in "sh*tty states," "flyover state rubes," "laughed out of DC if you actually lived here" -plenty of contempt and disdain in those comments. Why is ANY of that necessary when discussing the very questionable practice of anchor-baby tourism companies?
Anonymous
10/09/2017 15:31
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about birthright citizenship? I knew a family who had at least 10 tourist visa visitors give birth.
There are also birthright tourism companies that bring an illegal to the states in her 9th month, she gives birth to an anchor baby, and then they both go home. Now if things go south for the family, he's a U.S. citizen and moves back here to get welfare benefits, food stamps, etc. It's almost like an insurance policy.
Where did all you weird ass, staunch conservatives come from? I know you all like simplistic answers for complex issues. It's evident in your posts. But are you idiots even posting from dc? This is a forum for dc urban moms and dads. People who aren't flyover state rubes. Are you those people? Are you posting from a sh*tty state where your stupid arguments hold water? You'd get laughed out of the beltway if you actually lived in dc.
All you people do when presented with a questionable practice like birthright tourism companies - designed to help illegals exploit the system and get U.S. benefits for their babies - is personally denigrate the person who brought up the practice? And, FYI, I am a native Washingtonian, and other than my college years (in a liberal NE state), have always lived here.
So tell me....you disagree that we should shut down these birthright tourism groups? Or would you prefer to continue to defend illegals who seek to exploit the country's antiquated anchor laws and instead insult law-abiding, taxpaying Americans? Hint: Your answer is why yoU LOST.
...and you also lost with your disdainful remarks about people who don't live on either of the Elitist Coasts. Snob.
NP
Can you point out these disdainful remarks? I can't seem to find them. Thanks.
Anonymous
10/09/2017 15:21
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:The USA should have separate policies on DACA for visa overstayers -ALL GO BACK.
At the minimum, the law should be rewritten so that DACA babies don't get all the welfare and food stamp bennies. Remember that a quarter of the Dreamers are high school drop-outs and ill-prepared to support their own children. In fsct, why not just deport any DACA over age 21 who didn't even finish high school. They're a drain on our country, and they had their chance. They blew it with poor choices.
Anonymous
10/09/2017 15:17
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about birthright citizenship? I knew a family who had at least 10 tourist visa visitors give birth.
There are also birthright tourism companies that bring an illegal to the states in her 9th month, she gives birth to an anchor baby, and then they both go home. Now if things go south for the family, he's a U.S. citizen and moves back here to get welfare benefits, food stamps, etc. It's almost like an insurance policy.
Where did all you weird ass, staunch conservatives come from? I know you all like simplistic answers for complex issues. It's evident in your posts. But are you idiots even posting from dc? This is a forum for dc urban moms and dads. People who aren't flyover state rubes. Are you those people? Are you posting from a sh*tty state where your stupid arguments hold water? You'd get laughed out of the beltway if you actually lived in dc.
All you people do when presented with a questionable practice like birthright tourism companies - designed to help illegals exploit the system and get U.S. benefits for their babies - is personally denigrate the person who brought up the practice? And, FYI, I am a native Washingtonian, and other than my college years (in a liberal NE state), have always lived here.
So tell me....you disagree that we should shut down these birthright tourism groups? Or would you prefer to continue to defend illegals who seek to exploit the country's antiquated anchor laws and instead insult law-abiding, taxpaying Americans? Hint: Your answer is why yoU LOST.
...and you also lost with your disdainful remarks about people who don't live on either of the Elitist Coasts. Snob.
Anonymous
10/09/2017 15:15
Subject: Trump Sends 70-Point Immigration Bill to Comgress
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about birthright citizenship? I knew a family who had at least 10 tourist visa visitors give birth.
There are also birthright tourism companies that bring an illegal to the states in her 9th month, she gives birth to an anchor baby, and then they both go home. Now if things go south for the family, he's a U.S. citizen and moves back here to get welfare benefits, food stamps, etc. It's almost like an insurance policy.
Where did all you weird ass, staunch conservatives come from? I know you all like simplistic answers for complex issues. It's evident in your posts. But are you idiots even posting from dc? This is a forum for dc urban moms and dads. People who aren't flyover state rubes. Are you those people? Are you posting from a sh*tty state where your stupid arguments hold water? You'd get laughed out of the beltway if you actually lived in dc.
All you people do when presented with a questionable practice like birthright tourism companies - designed to help illegals exploit the system and get U.S. benefits for their babies - is personally denigrate the person who brought up the practice? And, FYI, I am a native Washingtonian, and other than my college years (in a liberal NE state), have always lived here.
So tell me....you disagree that we should shut down these birthright tourism groups? Or would you prefer to continue to defend illegals who seek to exploit the country's antiquated anchor laws and instead insult law-abiding, taxpaying Americans? Hint: Your answer is why yoU LOST.