Anonymous
Post 09/23/2017 03:42     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Yes...from SOMD. My favorite is when people AXE me something LOL
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 18:12     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Do you say hang ger ? That one makes me crazy too! Hang - er
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 18:10     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Do you say list en for listen? Soft en for soften? Same idea! It’s off en
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 18:05     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Yes it’s very grating when people pronounce the t
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 18:04     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Anonymous wrote:No. I freely admit there is an element of class involved, and i even admit this when I correct my students.

This thread inspired a lively debate in our Language and Power during IB English today.


*topic Language and Power (this is one of the topics of Part 1 in IB English).

One of my IB English students who received a 7 (highest possible score by external examiners) used various threads from DCUM for the highest-scoring IB Written Task I've ever seen.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 18:02     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Western PA.

Both!
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 18:01     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
No. I freely admit there is an element of class involved, and i even admit this when I correct my students.

This thread inspired a lively debate in our Language and Power during IB English today.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 17:55     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
no

Maryland born and bred
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 15:22     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
OP back. I'm not really seeing a pattern here. But at least all my fellow Ohio natives don't say the t.

I wondered if there was an element of class involved, but didn't want to broach in my original post. I actually thought pronouncing the t might be more of an upper class thing.

Now, do most people pronounce "because" with a Z sound rather than an S? I know a few who say it with the S, but not many, and not me.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 14:56     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Nope. Had it hammered into my head by my high school choir teacher, who yelled that Freddy does not sing "I have off-TEN walked down this street before" in My Fair Lady (a WHOLE MUSICAL about pronunciation).
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 14:51     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Class thing. It's offen.


DCUM thinks everything is about class. This is not.


Actually it turns out it is exactly about class, but relates back to the time of Elizabeth I, who did not pronounce the t.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 14:28     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Apparently I go back and forth! Ha. So I say both. Grew up in NOVA.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 14:28     Subject: Re:Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
No, Weatern PA
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 14:24     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm from Ohio and do not, but don't know how this falls geographically.


You say "offen"?

The word has a t in it.

of·ten
?ôf(t)?n,?äf(t)?n


Do you say "wed-nes-day"? The word has two ds in it.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2017 14:22     Subject: Do you pronounce the "t" in often?
Anonymous wrote:People say Ofen? Hahaha what?


This is the correct way to pronounce it, rhymes with coffin.

I agree, it's more classism than regionalism.