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Anonymous wrote:I think many people who have not directly participated in the UMD admissions process in the past several years would be very surprised at how competitive it has become. They may have a general sense that the school has improved over the past couple of decades but they don't know the extent.

EVERY public U in the country says this.

And sometimes it's true.

In 1995, UMBCs freshman had the same average SAT scores as UMCP freshman: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-02-21/news/1995052117_1_umbc-honors-student-top-students

From the article: "UMBC and UMCP tied in average scores of all entering freshmen, which stood at 1,093. Last year, UMCP beat UMBC by three points, then the smallest margin previously registered since records were kept by the university system.

And for the second year in a row, the top 25 percent of UMBC students scored higher than their peers at College Park, besting them in average scores, 1,200 to 1,180."

Now days, UMCP is about a hundred points higher than UMBC. That's a significant difference.

When I went to UVA in the early 90's, the SAT scores were around 1250, about 150 points higher than UMCP. The difference is now about 30-40 points on a 1600 point scale.

UVa and UMD, IMHO, basically attract same caliber kids in terms of SAT/ACT avg scores.

I think UVA still attracts a higher caliber of kids, but the difference is very small now. As college tuitions grow ever larger, I suspect it will get even closer as more and more of the smart kids in MD opt to stay in state.

mid-50% SAT scores are very close (almost same but UVa is little higher), mid-50% ACT scores are not close - UMD is much higher.

https://www.admissions.umd.edu/apply/freshman.php - UMD average ACT- 29-33
https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/statistics - UVA average ACt- 27-31

I really don't understand why people post such blatantly false information. Like, what are you getting out of that?

Anonymous wrote:^ lol. no. Uva is top tier public, umd is like a big ten college

LOL for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many people who have not directly participated in the UMD admissions process in the past several years would be very surprised at how competitive it has become. They may have a general sense that the school has improved over the past couple of decades but they don't know the extent.

EVERY public U in the country says this.

And sometimes it's true.

In 1995, UMBCs freshman had the same average SAT scores as UMCP freshman: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-02-21/news/1995052117_1_umbc-honors-student-top-students

From the article: "UMBC and UMCP tied in average scores of all entering freshmen, which stood at 1,093. Last year, UMCP beat UMBC by three points, then the smallest margin previously registered since records were kept by the university system.

And for the second year in a row, the top 25 percent of UMBC students scored higher than their peers at College Park, besting them in average scores, 1,200 to 1,180."

Now days, UMCP is about a hundred points higher than UMBC. That's a significant difference.

When I went to UVA in the early 90's, the SAT scores were around 1250, about 150 points higher than UMCP. The difference is now about 30-40 points on a 1600 point scale.

UVa and UMD, IMHO, basically attract same caliber kids in terms of SAT/ACT avg scores.

I think UVA still attracts a higher caliber of kids, but the difference is very small now. As college tuitions grow ever larger, I suspect it will get even closer as more and more of the smart kids in MD opt to stay in state.

mid-50% SAT scores are very close (almost same but UVa is little higher), mid-50% ACT scores are not close - UMD is much higher.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many people who have not directly participated in the UMD admissions process in the past several years would be very surprised at how competitive it has become. They may have a general sense that the school has improved over the past couple of decades but they don't know the extent.

EVERY public U in the country says this.

And sometimes it's true.

In 1995, UMBCs freshman had the same average SAT scores as UMCP freshman: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-02-21/news/1995052117_1_umbc-honors-student-top-students

From the article: "UMBC and UMCP tied in average scores of all entering freshmen, which stood at 1,093. Last year, UMCP beat UMBC by three points, then the smallest margin previously registered since records were kept by the university system.

And for the second year in a row, the top 25 percent of UMBC students scored higher than their peers at College Park, besting them in average scores, 1,200 to 1,180."

Now days, UMCP is about a hundred points higher than UMBC. That's a significant difference.

When I went to UVA in the early 90's, the SAT scores were around 1250, about 150 points higher than UMCP. The difference is now about 30-40 points on a 1600 point scale.

UVa and UMD, IMHO, basically attract same caliber kids in terms of SAT/ACT avg scores.

I think UVA still attracts a higher caliber of kids, but the difference is very small now. As college tuitions grow ever larger, I suspect it will get even closer as more and more of the smart kids in MD opt to stay in state.

Anonymous wrote:^ lol. no. Uva is top tier public, umd is like a big ten college

Right. Big Ten "college". Like U Michigan, U Wisconsin, U Illinois, Purdue. If these places don't impress you, you are not in academia.

Anonymous wrote:^ lol. no. Uva is top tier public, umd is like a big ten college

LOL

http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2016.html

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2018

UMD > UVA

^ lol. no. Uva is top tier public, umd is like a big ten college

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Anonymous wrote:I think many people who have not directly participated in the UMD admissions process in the past several years would be very surprised at how competitive it has become. They may have a general sense that the school has improved over the past couple of decades but they don't know the extent.

EVERY public U in the country says this.

And sometimes it's true.

In 1995, UMBCs freshman had the same average SAT scores as UMCP freshman: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-02-21/news/1995052117_1_umbc-honors-student-top-students

From the article: "UMBC and UMCP tied in average scores of all entering freshmen, which stood at 1,093. Last year, UMCP beat UMBC by three points, then the smallest margin previously registered since records were kept by the university system.

And for the second year in a row, the top 25 percent of UMBC students scored higher than their peers at College Park, besting them in average scores, 1,200 to 1,180."

Now days, UMCP is about a hundred points higher than UMBC. That's a significant difference.

When I went to UVA in the early 90's, the SAT scores were around 1250, about 150 points higher than UMCP. The difference is now about 30-40 points on a 1600 point scale.

UVa and UMD, IMHO, basically attract same caliber kids in terms of SAT/ACT avg scores.

Every college in the world is "harder" to get into. It's all relative.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many people who have not directly participated in the UMD admissions process in the past several years would be very surprised at how competitive it has become. They may have a general sense that the school has improved over the past couple of decades but they don't know the extent.

EVERY public U in the country says this.

And sometimes it's true.

In 1995, UMBCs freshman had the same average SAT scores as UMCP freshman: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-02-21/news/1995052117_1_umbc-honors-student-top-students

From the article: "UMBC and UMCP tied in average scores of all entering freshmen, which stood at 1,093. Last year, UMCP beat UMBC by three points, then the smallest margin previously registered since records were kept by the university system.

And for the second year in a row, the top 25 percent of UMBC students scored higher than their peers at College Park, besting them in average scores, 1,200 to 1,180."

Now days, UMCP is about a hundred points higher than UMBC. That's a significant difference.

When I went to UVA in the early 90's, the SAT scores were around 1250, about 150 points higher than UMCP. The difference is now about 30-40 points on a 1600 point scale.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many people who have not directly participated in the UMD admissions process in the past several years would be very surprised at how competitive it has become. They may have a general sense that the school has improved over the past couple of decades but they don't know the extent.

EVERY public U in the country says this.

Okay, let your A- kid apply and see what happens. I know some extremely qualified applicants who were not accepted. Sure, they had all the right numbers but I think it was the desired engineering major that did them in. It is VERY difficult to get into the engineering program there. I don't know if it might be easier if they applied with another major in mind.

Anonymous wrote:I think many people who have not directly participated in the UMD admissions process in the past several years would be very surprised at how competitive it has become. They may have a general sense that the school has improved over the past couple of decades but they don't know the extent.

EVERY public U in the country says this.

Anonymous wrote:It is a competitive school. However, it varies widely bases on high school, gender and ethnic background. Asian female from W schools have it the hardest - due to the slave issue and illega immigration.

What does this mean? Can you please explain?

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Anonymous wrote:i think this has been covered but they had 30000 applicants for about 3500 places this last year. They offer to 12,000 of the applicants in order to yield the 3500 entrants.

That is 40%

which is a much better chance than the ivy leagues where the offers only go to less than 10% of applicants (obviously with a much higher yield).

So your contribution is that UMCP is easier to get into than an Ivy League school? Thanks.

And what is your contribution?

Earlier in the thread I made the astounding contribution that water is wet. Very similar in quality to the previous comment.

It is a competitive school. However, it varies widely bases on high school, gender and ethnic background. Asian female from W schools have it the hardest - due to the slave issue and illega immigration.