Anonymous
06/05/2017 00:04
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df
Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats
All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .
The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .
This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.
WTF. I have a kid with autism. I can't decide if I should be offended or pissed.
These posters are crazy. Seriously, parents and the medical profession are in cohoots to get kids fake autism diagnoses? You are completely off your rocker and you are spreading crazy, dangerous lies. Talk about people who need medication!
What turnip truck did you fall off of? Yes nowadays everyone is diagnosed as autistic my medical professionals - the idea is that is how the kid is then entitled to therapies that he or she needs. If the kid doesn't have that diagnosis he's not getting the therapies - it's a very common occurrence these days. The kids that grow up without issues just drop the label .
It's not reasonable to hate on poor people for doing what the middle class invented.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 23:55
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df
Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats
All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .
The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .
This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.
you are a horrible person with no understanding of parents or children with disabilities.
Thanks but I have one who is severely disabled. I see people whose kids have very mild issues getting therapies and the most school programs catered to their kids, horseback riding, government money for classes outside of school - the list is endless. If you people were more honest about what your family is receiving you'd probably be less contemptuous of others.
No, the government is not paying for rich kids to take horseback riding lessons. Stop with your crazy rants.
"Disability" and Medicaid are federal programs that are funded by the states. Each state can choose to fund them as little or much as they choose. In Maryland, even severely disabled children do not get disability payments unless their parents are destitute. I can tell you (and I have a severely disabled child) that no working parents receive disability payments. If you are talking about LISS money which can be used to pay for therapies, that is $2,000 per year, and it is done by lottery. You can't possibly be serious that middle class kids will mild issues are receiving funds to pay for multiple classes, etc. That's BS.
I have seen middle class families whose kids have no detectable issue get LISS money, yes. Two had parents who were public school teachers . I had never even heard is LISS money and I have a seriously disabled kid, but these moms were familar with the whole system, they applied for their kids and got it. They used it to pay for after school classes for the kids. I don't think that kids who might have ADHD (emphasis on might) are the ones who are supposed to be getting LISS money.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 23:54
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry but if this article was about a Black family in an urban area in, say Chicago or Atlanta and they were pulling in $2k a month in "disability," plus food stamps, people would be ready to riot talking about "welfare queens" and people cheating the system.
Why did the crops rot in the fields in Georgia when they cracked down on illegal immigration?
Sorry didn't mean to reply to you eas replying to PP about "no wonder people are mad about illegal immigration." And I agree. Non- black/brown people get to be poor, lazy and dysfunctional and a leech on the system but sympathetic.
I don't think anyone on this thread has any warm feelings towards this family. Except professional poverty warriors.
As of for me, I am absolutely indifferent towards all - white, black and everyone in between - welfare queens.
Their life's suck. Look how they live, I would not put my dog in such house or whatever they live in.
Let them be, they gain nothing. There always were people like that and always be, nothing we can do to change them.
I am not a bleeding heart liberal, rather the opposite.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 23:47
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df
Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats
All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .
The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .
This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.
Us crazy SN moms fight for good IEPs so our kids will grow up to be productive citizens who have jobs.
Yes you are entitled to that!
Anonymous
06/04/2017 23:42
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df
Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats
All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .
The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .
This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.
Us crazy SN moms fight for good IEPs so our kids will grow up to be productive citizens who have jobs.
They aren't SN if they are growing up to be independent and have a job.. But that's okay - just be honest about the resources you are using.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 23:10
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Right. And they submit, yearly, for the twins to get disability checks. Why? Why would you even allow your DS daughter to pregnant in the first place? And then allow it again? And again? Because children are a blessing? No - because they cost little and can bring you in $500/mo in disability.
It doesn't work that way, and it isn't that easy. Your child has to actually meet a listing for a disability to qualify for SSI assistance, and no, just "being a baby" doesn't qualify. They need to have a disability. Being preterm/low birthweight does qualify (for a while) but then the qualification can get lifted (as happened here). And of course preterm birth is more frequent in low income moms with poor prenatal care.
Why would you allow your adult daughter to get pregnant three times? My guess is lack of access to a permanent form of birth control. Probably no Planned Parenthood or other clinic nearby, little access to affordable family planning (or abortion services.)
More children do increase the amount of assistance you might get from WIC for food.
Are you being deliberately obtuse? I know you know how disability works. I know how disability works. They know how disability works. Why do you think they keep submitting the kids for disability? Why do you think they keep pestering the doctors about diagnoses for the kids? They can manage get to the doctor for all sorts of pills but can't get a scrip for birth control? They cannot say they don't have access to doctors.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 22:46
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Disability is the new welfare. When the unemployment check stops and the jobs left, millions went on disability to survive. There are no jobs in these places. in fact there may never be jobs in the US for people like this. This is the new America. It's understandable that people are anti-immigrant. Not enough jobs to go around.
Oh yeah because immigrants are the ones who've consistently voted for politicians who didn't see a tax break that they didn't want to handle to their corporate overlords. It's the immigrants ( some of whom live 4 in a one bedroom ) fault that as long as you're white and male and spew enough anti-gay, anti everybody except for nonsense you win elections , that these people are where they are .
Sure, let's blame immigrants
Anonymous
06/04/2017 22:06
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df
Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats
All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .
The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .
This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.
Us crazy SN moms fight for good IEPs so our kids will grow up to be productive citizens who have jobs.
+1
What an utter ignoramus.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 20:36
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:
Right. And they submit, yearly, for the twins to get disability checks. Why? Why would you even allow your DS daughter to pregnant in the first place? And then allow it again? And again? Because children are a blessing? No - because they cost little and can bring you in $500/mo in disability.
It doesn't work that way, and it isn't that easy. Your child has to actually meet a listing for a disability to qualify for SSI assistance, and no, just "being a baby" doesn't qualify. They need to have a disability. Being preterm/low birthweight does qualify (for a while) but then the qualification can get lifted (as happened here). And of course preterm birth is more frequent in low income moms with poor prenatal care.
Why would you allow your adult daughter to get pregnant three times? My guess is lack of access to a permanent form of birth control. Probably no Planned Parenthood or other clinic nearby, little access to affordable family planning (or abortion services.)
More children do increase the amount of assistance you might get from WIC for food.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 19:22
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Her three kids were supposed to get checks - they were taken off disability at some point, and the family lost $1000/mo. They absolutely allowed her to get pregnant and give birth so that her children's disability checks could add to their coffers.
No. Your kids don't just automatically qualify for SSI disability checks.
First, the woman with Down Syndrome started getting SSI, it appears. Probably when she got pregnant with her first child. But that first child wasn't disabled.
After that the grandma managed to get SSI as well, after she hurt her shoulder at a factory. The article said that there were several claims and denials but eventually she was approved.
Then the twins were born, low birth weight and premature which is a temporary listing condition for SSI for children. Mom of course was destitute, so they qualified financial for the program (it is income based).
Then mom had a fourth child, the little 4 year old. Not disabled.
Disability gets reviewed every few years to see if the person is still disabled, and the boys no longer made that listing.
Right. And they submit, yearly, for the twins to get disability checks. Why? Why would you even allow your DS daughter to pregnant in the first place? And then allow it again? And again? Because children are a blessing? No - because they cost little and can bring you in $500/mo in disability.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 19:01
Subject: Re:Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The article mentioned a relationship with on man, himself disabled. I think the father of the twins?
And another man, who was getting married to someone else.
Could have been three different fathers. Do NOT understand why she wasn't using implanted hormone birth control after the first pregnancy.
because republicans have made it clear that birth control is wrong and shouldn't be funded by the govt. Instead they would rather waste billion on these ding dongs who keep having babies.
No, actually the reps would rather they starve to death, or maybe die of illness untreated because of no $.
Give me a break. I'm a Republican and wish they'd make better decisions, but they don't/can't - so we need to take care of them.
Personally, I'd rather their church do it, but since the federal government makes that near impossible...
Their church of 15 other poor people? How would that work exactly?
Anonymous
06/04/2017 18:45
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yesterday's Post had an article called "Generations Disabled" that I found pretty interesting. I have been lucky enough in my life not to have any experience with this sort of thing, but I really feel for the kids in this environment who are "labeled" and thus enabled to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How does this cycle even stop?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2017/06/02/generations-disabled/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcd71507a0df
Free money. That's how they survive. Instead of disciplining, educating, and properly feeding those kids, grandma wants a government check and pour pills down their throats
All the wealthy families around here are pouring 2x the number of pills down their kids' throats so that they can work and not get a call from the school.
Every rich kid with any kind of issue around here in the rich area is ' autistic' too - because the parents want the benefits of free therapies for them.
People around here are WAY worse about that kind of thing . People around here falsely pile up the govt benefits for their kid way more. Those people actually need more therapies for their kids and they probably get nothing. Move those people to Fairfax and they'll get benefits for their kids .
The disability checks are a bit much. I do wonder how the mom or grandma or whatever she is can find childcare for her adult disabled child to work? I doubt that that Down syndrome daughter can be left alone .
This!! I find it outrageous to read in DCUM demanding free therapies, IEPs for their special snowflake at the expense of everyone around them. They scream "Its the law!" It's a rich person version of a welfare queen.
Us crazy SN moms fight for good IEPs so our kids will grow up to be productive citizens who have jobs.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 17:45
Subject: Re:Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The article mentioned a relationship with on man, himself disabled. I think the father of the twins?
And another man, who was getting married to someone else.
Could have been three different fathers. Do NOT understand why she wasn't using implanted hormone birth control after the first pregnancy.
because republicans have made it clear that birth control is wrong and shouldn't be funded by the govt. Instead they would rather waste billion on these ding dongs who keep having babies.
No, actually the reps would rather they starve to death, or maybe die of illness untreated because of no $.
This.
Dickens nailed it with Scrooge in the Xmas Carol: "Let them die and reduce the surplus population."
The GOP embodies the spirit of Scrooge.
Anonymous
06/04/2017 16:40
Subject: Re:Washington Post Article - Disability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The article mentioned a relationship with on man, himself disabled. I think the father of the twins?
And another man, who was getting married to someone else.
Could have been three different fathers. Do NOT understand why she wasn't using implanted hormone birth control after the first pregnancy.
because republicans have made it clear that birth control is wrong and shouldn't be funded by the govt. Instead they would rather waste billion on these ding dongs who keep having babies.
No, actually the reps would rather they starve to death, or maybe die of illness untreated because of no $.
Give me a break. I'm a Republican and wish they'd make better decisions, but they don't/can't - so we need to take care of them.
Personally, I'd rather their church do it, but since the federal government makes that near impossible...
Anonymous
06/04/2017 16:34
Subject: Washington Post Article - Disability
Please quit hating on poor people. The people I know who are receiving disability are mostly people who worked for decades before applying in the mid 50s after being laid off for taking sick time.