Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.
Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?
Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?
Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.
Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?
Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?
Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.
+1. What a douche.
Look, someone asked on an anonymous board about my gut-level impression of a profession. I provided mine. Most stereotypical impulses are simplistic and not particularly useful. I am open to being completely wrong but it doesn't negate my answer. I also said I could never do the job which is totally accurate - I am aware that being a nurse requires non "book-smart" skills that I will never ever have.
And your mistake is that for all your book smarts, you didn't know what the qualifications of a nurse are, educationally. Admitting that you believe a stereotype doesn't excuse it. It is an opportunity for you to not be wrong. Which you are. Nurses have science education. It's not always a four year degree and advanced coursework, but it's not NOT those things either. O-chem and A&P are required for RNs, full stop.
And you didn't say that you couldn't do the job. You said it was a job you'd never want, while insulting nurses by saying they were essentially too stupid to go to medical school. Own your first asshole response.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder why they didn't become a PA.
I wonder why they did not become a doctor, or pharmacist or some other better respected/paid health care professional
You sound pretty ignorant, CRNAs make 3 times what PAs make in many areas and are well respected. Also, not all nurses have to ask for urine, there are research nurses, informatic nurses, and many others.
This simply isn't true.
CRNAs like other APNs and PAs are mid level practitioners and generally speaking all make in 90 k to 150 k range. CRNAs are not making $300k.
I thought PAs were considered sort of a joke compared to NPs, but I think the titles are confusing and I am probably mixing them up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.
Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?
Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?
Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.
+1. What a douche.
Look, someone asked on an anonymous board about my gut-level impression of a profession. I provided mine. Most stereotypical impulses are simplistic and not particularly useful. I am open to being completely wrong but it doesn't negate my answer. I also said I could never do the job which is totally accurate - I am aware that being a nurse requires non "book-smart" skills that I will never ever have.
Anonymous wrote:I wonder why they didn't become a PA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.
Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?
Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?
Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.
+1. What a douche.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.
Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?
Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?
Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.