Anonymous wrote:It's obviously a personal decision for each person. I think a lot of the decision is based upon the overall dynamics. For instance my situation.
Laugh if you must, but this is my story.
She has bullied me to sit on the toilet to urinate. Has restricted me to sex 3-4x a year for 25+ years. No bjs during marriage.
NO sex during pregnancy. Generally, she is extremely sexually selfish.
F_ _ _ NO I'm not getting a V. I retain my right to produce sperm. It's the only damn manly thing about me she can't take away.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else here whose DW convinced them to get a V after two children and then DW only agreed to sex once a month? 12 condoms a year and I could have kept my sperm making ability.
For what?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else here whose DW convinced them to get a V after two children and then DW only agreed to sex once a month? 12 condoms a year and I could have kept my sperm making ability.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else here whose DW convinced them to get a V after two children and then DW only agreed to sex once a month? 12 condoms a year and I could have kept my sperm making ability.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another person who would consider divorce.
If my husband watched me go through what I've been through with pregnancy and didn't volunteer for this when we decided we were done having children I don't even know what I would do. It would be so grossly inconsiderate and unfair.
You seem pretty a-ok with it, more mildly annoyed than viscerally angry OP. Its your life but I'd value myself more than you seem to. This is like...a character flaw which means he values his own body SIGNIFICANTLY more than yours (because the risks in this case are so lopsided). This would be a marriage risking fight for me.
His body, his choice, amirite?
Yes of course, and there are consequences and contexts to choices. I'm not saying he should be legally compelled to get his tubes tied. I believe there are also pretty severe consequences when a woman unilaterally chooses to get an abortion while in a relationship with a man without discussing it with him and taking his feelings into account.
The thing with this is that his choices and my choices have collectively led to my body taking on a significant strain in both the having and preventing of having children (via pregnancy, birth, birth control pills etc). He will have enjoyed the consequences of my body bearing those burdens for many many years. I believe it would be grossly unfair to refuse to take on a minor 48 hour burden to help me, his partner in life, not have to take further strain on my own body, which will have done more than its share in our family planning efforts to that point.
If this is OP, well said. Lay it out for your husband like this. If he still cannot see how selfish he is being, I would seriously consider divorce. Because this is a big deal. This is your health and if he doesn't care about that, then he doesn't really seem to care about you all that much.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another person who would consider divorce.
If my husband watched me go through what I've been through with pregnancy and didn't volunteer for this when we decided we were done having children I don't even know what I would do. It would be so grossly inconsiderate and unfair.
You seem pretty a-ok with it, more mildly annoyed than viscerally angry OP. Its your life but I'd value myself more than you seem to. This is like...a character flaw which means he values his own body SIGNIFICANTLY more than yours (because the risks in this case are so lopsided). This would be a marriage risking fight for me.
His body, his choice, amirite?
Yes of course, and there are consequences and contexts to choices. I'm not saying he should be legally compelled to get his tubes tied. I believe there are also pretty severe consequences when a woman unilaterally chooses to get an abortion while in a relationship with a man without discussing it with him and taking his feelings into account.
The thing with this is that his choices and my choices have collectively led to my body taking on a significant strain in both the having and preventing of having children (via pregnancy, birth, birth control pills etc). He will have enjoyed the consequences of my body bearing those burdens for many many years. I believe it would be grossly unfair to refuse to take on a minor 48 hour burden to help me, his partner in life, not have to take further strain on my own body, which will have done more than its share in our family planning efforts to that point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another person who would consider divorce.
If my husband watched me go through what I've been through with pregnancy and didn't volunteer for this when we decided we were done having children I don't even know what I would do. It would be so grossly inconsiderate and unfair.
You seem pretty a-ok with it, more mildly annoyed than viscerally angry OP. Its your life but I'd value myself more than you seem to. This is like...a character flaw which means he values his own body SIGNIFICANTLY more than yours (because the risks in this case are so lopsided). This would be a marriage risking fight for me.
His body, his choice, amirite?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would divorce over this. I'm not kidding.
Well, and he would go off and get married and have new kids with his new young wife - which is the real reason men don't do this. They don't want to give up their fertility which can last into their 70's and maybe beyond.
Maybe they just don't want to have surgery - and indeed, would rather divorce you than have surgery that could kill him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-513726/How-vasectomy-operation-killed-husband.html
Yeah it's low risk, but the risk is ZERO if you don't have the surgery.
Anonymous wrote:It's obviously a personal decision for each person. I think a lot of the decision is based upon the overall dynamics. For instance my situation.
Laugh if you must, but this is my story.
She has bullied me to sit on the toilet to urinate. Has restricted me to sex 3-4x a year for 25+ years. No bjs during marriage.
NO sex during pregnancy. Generally, she is extremely sexually selfish.
F_ _ _ NO I'm not getting a V. I retain my right to produce sperm. It's the only damn manly thing about me she can't take away.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His body, his choice, amirite?
HER body has taken all the responsibility for THEIR sex life and THEIR children thus far.
Marriage is a team. She played for the team and now he is playing only for himself.
Deal with it, guys.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects
Was she open to a surrogate? Adoption? Because she had other options than carrying a child, just to hold it against him.
Anonymous wrote:His body, his choice, amirite?
HER body has taken all the responsibility for THEIR sex life and THEIR children thus far.
Marriage is a team. She played for the team and now he is playing only for himself.
Deal with it, guys.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects
His body, his choice, amirite?