jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this opens peoples eyes to the issues with illegals.

How they are able to enroll in school is beyond me... I imagine there are situations where kids are adopted from overseas and it would be immoral to not let them enroll immediately if there was some issue with their paperwork. But here illegally? No... they aren't citizens, so they don't have the right to free public education. I hope school districts will start kicking these kids out- this is a perfect example of how unsafe this is. This situation is horrific, but I imagine there are other kids who cause disturbances which interfere with legal students. Just all around not worth it- nor do I want my tax dollars going to illegals schooling.

Curious how people feel about the sanctuary city status now- did this change any minds?

The Supreme Court disagrees with you and has determined that education is a right regardless of immigration status.

Regardless of age? Can anyone who is an illegal immigrant avail himself of a free education, even at the age of 20 or 21, or 30 or 31? (Nice way for pedophiles to chummy up to kids.) The cost to educate non-English speaking illegal immigrants is putting a big burden on school budgets, and I can't image we are required to provide a high school education even to adults (which, at 18, the older rapist was).

Whatever age guidelines apply to citizens also apply to non-citizens. A natural born American who can trace his American ancestry fifteen generations back can enter high school at 18 as a freshman. Therefore, so can undocumented 18 year olds.

Actually, this is not true, according to an interview I heard on the radio with a school board member. There are exceptions made for illegal aliens - some sanctuary cities, counties (official and unofficial) classify them as special ed due to language deficits to get around laws that would ordinarily keep them out.

What you are saying is that it actually is true. The same guidelines that apply to citizens also apply to non-citizens. There are not special rules allowing undocumented students to enter school at an older age than citizens. You are simply pointing out how some school systems apply the existing rules pertaining to special ed. Whether language and potential education deficiencies are sufficient to qualify a child for special education is something that can be debated, but the rules apply to all special ed students regardless of immigration status.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a different thought. VOTE OUT these idiots in charge. Legal immigrants, yes! illegal immigrants, no! This sanctuary policy is idiotic. Passing a law not to enforce law. We have gone mad. And on the heels of a US citizen, 14 year old raped in school by illegal immigrants where law was not enforced that would have prevented this, completely insane.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a thought... Give the 18 year old freshmen English lessons at a community center facility, basic math, American History (lol)--online classes whenever possible-- then administer a "special GED" test in Spanish, then "graduate" them within the year.

A fast-track American education... Check! (And back to the 7-11 you go)

Anonymous wrote:Here's a thought... Give the 18 year old freshmen English lessons at a community center facility, basic math, American History (lol)--online classes whenever possible-- then administer a "special GED" test in Spanish, then "graduate" them within the year.

A fast-track American education... Check! (And back to the 7-11 you go)

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this opens peoples eyes to the issues with illegals.

How they are able to enroll in school is beyond me... I imagine there are situations where kids are adopted from overseas and it would be immoral to not let them enroll immediately if there was some issue with their paperwork. But here illegally? No... they aren't citizens, so they don't have the right to free public education. I hope school districts will start kicking these kids out- this is a perfect example of how unsafe this is. This situation is horrific, but I imagine there are other kids who cause disturbances which interfere with legal students. Just all around not worth it- nor do I want my tax dollars going to illegals schooling.

Curious how people feel about the sanctuary city status now- did this change any minds?

The Supreme Court disagrees with you and has determined that education is a right regardless of immigration status.

Regardless of age? Can anyone who is an illegal immigrant avail himself of a free education, even at the age of 20 or 21, or 30 or 31? (Nice way for pedophiles to chummy up to kids.) The cost to educate non-English speaking illegal immigrants is putting a big burden on school budgets, and I can't image we are required to provide a high school education even to adults (which, at 18, the older rapist was).

Whatever age guidelines apply to citizens also apply to non-citizens. A natural born American who can trace his American ancestry fifteen generations back can enter high school at 18 as a freshman. Therefore, so can undocumented 18 year olds.

Actually, this is not true, according to an interview I heard on the radio with a school board member. There are exceptions made for illegal aliens - some sanctuary cities, counties (official and unofficial) classify them as special ed due to language deficits to get around laws that would ordinarily keep them out.

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My guess is they were in an ESL class together, but agreed that even if they weren't nothing is to stop an 18 year old from following any younger child into a bathroom. These immigrants have no doubt very little formal education, probably fifth grade educations if ANY, and no English and they become the schools responsibility. Many have gang affiliations, or deep trauma, or very poor understanding of how Americans regard sexual maturity in girls. In their countries (and often here when they emigrate and continue the pattern) girls or 14/15 may be fending off fairly aggressive advances. They come from extreme poverty and bring the dysfunction often seen there. I've worked with these types of students in alternative programs. The thought of popping them in high school and demanding the school find the resources to educate them is fascinating.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this opens peoples eyes to the issues with illegals.

How they are able to enroll in school is beyond me... I imagine there are situations where kids are adopted from overseas and it would be immoral to not let them enroll immediately if there was some issue with their paperwork. But here illegally? No... they aren't citizens, so they don't have the right to free public education. I hope school districts will start kicking these kids out- this is a perfect example of how unsafe this is. This situation is horrific, but I imagine there are other kids who cause disturbances which interfere with legal students. Just all around not worth it- nor do I want my tax dollars going to illegals schooling.

Curious how people feel about the sanctuary city status now- did this change any minds?

The Supreme Court disagrees with you and has determined that education is a right regardless of immigration status.

Regardless of age? Can anyone who is an illegal immigrant avail himself of a free education, even at the age of 20 or 21, or 30 or 31? (Nice way for pedophiles to chummy up to kids.) The cost to educate non-English speaking illegal immigrants is putting a big burden on school budgets, and I can't image we are required to provide a high school education even to adults (which, at 18, the older rapist was).

Whatever age guidelines apply to citizens also apply to non-citizens. A natural born American who can trace his American ancestry fifteen generations back can enter high school at 18 as a freshman. Therefore, so can undocumented 18 year olds.