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Anonymous wrote:Dcps teacher here. I could never work to the clock. My allegiance is to the kids, not dcps and that means doing what's right for them. Not looking for any pats on the back..I just don't know how people do it. I envy the teachers who manage to get out of the building at 3;30. Can't for the life of me figure out how they do it and manage to get their work done.

I'm a DCPS teacher and I leave at 330 everyday. I also get to work at 7:30, work through my lunch and prep time. I will work my butt off for my kids till 3:30. But I have small children at home and I refuse to neglect my own children because of my job. I work on the weekends during nap time and will work after my kids go to bed at night. But from 3:30-8:30 I am 100% mom and I'm sorry if people think I'm a bad teacher because of it. BTW, I get stellar observation scores before someone tries to say otherwise.

I'm PP. How long have you been teaching? Are you a long time veteran? Maybe that has something to do with it. I'm a specials teacher at a school with many "challenges" and it's still so overwhelming. I too, plan through my lunch and planning periods....and I get adequate observation scores.

To the PP who gets out at 3:30 with stellar observations, do you work at a title I school?

Yes I do work at a Title 1 school and have been there for the past 9 years. I'm a special education teacher who teaches three different grade levels. I plan smart not hard. I rarely talk and gossip with co workers. I use every available minute at school to plan. I am diligent about prioritizing my time. I understand it's harder for others but when I had my kids I told myself I was done staying till 4:30/5:00 everyday. My kids deserve me not an absent mom.

So moms who work until 5 or later are "absent."

And thanks for giving every employer who reads this just a little pause when thinking about hiring a women. Thanks!

I'm not taking about you. I'm talking about me. My husband works long hours so I want to be home and present. You do what works for your family.

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of young teachers happy to take your job. City happy to hire them at half the price they are paying you.

Except that most public schools and school systems in DC have trouble filling teacher positions, because there is, in fact, a shortage.

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Anonymous wrote:Dcps teacher here. I could never work to the clock. My allegiance is to the kids, not dcps and that means doing what's right for them. Not looking for any pats on the back..I just don't know how people do it. I envy the teachers who manage to get out of the building at 3;30. Can't for the life of me figure out how they do it and manage to get their work done.

I'm a DCPS teacher and I leave at 330 everyday. I also get to work at 7:30, work through my lunch and prep time. I will work my butt off for my kids till 3:30. But I have small children at home and I refuse to neglect my own children because of my job. I work on the weekends during nap time and will work after my kids go to bed at night. But from 3:30-8:30 I am 100% mom and I'm sorry if people think I'm a bad teacher because of it. BTW, I get stellar observation scores before someone tries to say otherwise.

I'm PP. How long have you been teaching? Are you a long time veteran? Maybe that has something to do with it. I'm a specials teacher at a school with many "challenges" and it's still so overwhelming. I too, plan through my lunch and planning periods....and I get adequate observation scores.

To the PP who gets out at 3:30 with stellar observations, do you work at a title I school?

Yes I do work at a Title 1 school and have been there for the past 9 years. I'm a special education teacher who teaches three different grade levels. I plan smart not hard. I rarely talk and gossip with co workers. I use every available minute at school to plan. I am diligent about prioritizing my time. I understand it's harder for others but when I had my kids I told myself I was done staying till 4:30/5:00 everyday. My kids deserve me not an absent mom.

So moms who work until 5 or later are "absent."

And thanks for giving every employer who reads this just a little pause when thinking about hiring a women. Thanks!

I can see how a mom who worked 9.5 hour days, at a physically demanding job like elementary special ed, and who came home with more work to do at home, might find it hard to be "present" for her kids in the way she might want. Wouldn't you?

That doesn't mean that someone working until 5 at a job where she starts at 9, gets to sit down much of the day, and can use the bathroom when she pleases, would feel the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:Dcps teacher here. I could never work to the clock. My allegiance is to the kids, not dcps and that means doing what's right for them. Not looking for any pats on the back..I just don't know how people do it. I envy the teachers who manage to get out of the building at 3;30. Can't for the life of me figure out how they do it and manage to get their work done.

I'm a DCPS teacher and I leave at 330 everyday. I also get to work at 7:30, work through my lunch and prep time. I will work my butt off for my kids till 3:30. But I have small children at home and I refuse to neglect my own children because of my job. I work on the weekends during nap time and will work after my kids go to bed at night. But from 3:30-8:30 I am 100% mom and I'm sorry if people think I'm a bad teacher because of it. BTW, I get stellar observation scores before someone tries to say otherwise.

I'm PP. How long have you been teaching? Are you a long time veteran? Maybe that has something to do with it. I'm a specials teacher at a school with many "challenges" and it's still so overwhelming. I too, plan through my lunch and planning periods....and I get adequate observation scores.

To the PP who gets out at 3:30 with stellar observations, do you work at a title I school?

Yes I do work at a Title 1 school and have been there for the past 9 years. I'm a special education teacher who teaches three different grade levels. I plan smart not hard. I rarely talk and gossip with co workers. I use every available minute at school to plan. I am diligent about prioritizing my time. I understand it's harder for others but when I had my kids I told myself I was done staying till 4:30/5:00 everyday. My kids deserve me not an absent mom.

So moms who work until 5 or later are "absent."

And thanks for giving every employer who reads this just a little pause when thinking about hiring a women. Thanks!

Plenty of young teachers happy to take your job. City happy to hire them at half the price they are paying you.

as someone who works in private sector you sounds like a bunch of cry babies

If you dont like the job leave period

plenty of us work more than 40 hours a week

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Anonymous wrote:Dcps teacher here. I could never work to the clock. My allegiance is to the kids, not dcps and that means doing what's right for them. Not looking for any pats on the back..I just don't know how people do it. I envy the teachers who manage to get out of the building at 3;30. Can't for the life of me figure out how they do it and manage to get their work done.

I'm a DCPS teacher and I leave at 330 everyday. I also get to work at 7:30, work through my lunch and prep time. I will work my butt off for my kids till 3:30. But I have small children at home and I refuse to neglect my own children because of my job. I work on the weekends during nap time and will work after my kids go to bed at night. But from 3:30-8:30 I am 100% mom and I'm sorry if people think I'm a bad teacher because of it. BTW, I get stellar observation scores before someone tries to say otherwise.

I'm PP. How long have you been teaching? Are you a long time veteran? Maybe that has something to do with it. I'm a specials teacher at a school with many "challenges" and it's still so overwhelming. I too, plan through my lunch and planning periods....and I get adequate observation scores.

To the PP who gets out at 3:30 with stellar observations, do you work at a title I school?

Yes I do work at a Title 1 school and have been there for the past 9 years. I'm a special education teacher who teaches three different grade levels. I plan smart not hard. I rarely talk and gossip with co workers. I use every available minute at school to plan. I am diligent about prioritizing my time. I understand it's harder for others but when I had my kids I told myself I was done staying till 4:30/5:00 everyday. My kids deserve me not an absent mom.

Do teachers even work 8 hours a day?

Dcps teachers have gotten raises and bonuses to improve education. In addition to an insane number of training days. Issues are bigger than money and working the clock is likely Overtime for some.

System is still weak. Leverage is lost

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Anonymous wrote:Dcps teacher here. I could never work to the clock. My allegiance is to the kids, not dcps and that means doing what's right for them. Not looking for any pats on the back..I just don't know how people do it. I envy the teachers who manage to get out of the building at 3;30. Can't for the life of me figure out how they do it and manage to get their work done.

I'm a DCPS teacher and I leave at 330 everyday. I also get to work at 7:30, work through my lunch and prep time. I will work my butt off for my kids till 3:30. But I have small children at home and I refuse to neglect my own children because of my job. I work on the weekends during nap time and will work after my kids go to bed at night. But from 3:30-8:30 I am 100% mom and I'm sorry if people think I'm a bad teacher because of it. BTW, I get stellar observation scores before someone tries to say otherwise.

I'm PP. How long have you been teaching? Are you a long time veteran? Maybe that has something to do with it. I'm a specials teacher at a school with many "challenges" and it's still so overwhelming. I too, plan through my lunch and planning periods....and I get adequate observation scores.

To the PP who gets out at 3:30 with stellar observations, do you work at a title I school?

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Anonymous wrote:Dcps teacher here. I could never work to the clock. My allegiance is to the kids, not dcps and that means doing what's right for them. Not looking for any pats on the back..I just don't know how people do it. I envy the teachers who manage to get out of the building at 3;30. Can't for the life of me figure out how they do it and manage to get their work done.

I'm a DCPS teacher and I leave at 330 everyday. I also get to work at 7:30, work through my lunch and prep time. I will work my butt off for my kids till 3:30. But I have small children at home and I refuse to neglect my own children because of my job. I work on the weekends during nap time and will work after my kids go to bed at night. But from 3:30-8:30 I am 100% mom and I'm sorry if people think I'm a bad teacher because of it. BTW, I get stellar observation scores before someone tries to say otherwise.

I'm PP. How long have you been teaching? Are you a long time veteran? Maybe that has something to do with it. I'm a specials teacher at a school with many "challenges" and it's still so overwhelming. I too, plan through my lunch and planning periods....and I get adequate observation scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Dcps teacher here. I could never work to the clock. My allegiance is to the kids, not dcps and that means doing what's right for them. Not looking for any pats on the back..I just don't know how people do it. I envy the teachers who manage to get out of the building at 3;30. Can't for the life of me figure out how they do it and manage to get their work done.

I'm a DCPS teacher and I leave at 330 everyday. I also get to work at 7:30, work through my lunch and prep time. I will work my butt off for my kids till 3:30. But I have small children at home and I refuse to neglect my own children because of my job. I work on the weekends during nap time and will work after my kids go to bed at night. But from 3:30-8:30 I am 100% mom and I'm sorry if people think I'm a bad teacher because of it. BTW, I get stellar observation scores before someone tries to say otherwise.

I'm glad you do it that way. For years now I've wished DH would put our kids before the kids at work.

PP here adding that dh's students might miss a regular field trip opportunity this year because I need surgery and will need him here. The trip has them gone a few days and it may turn out to be bad timing. I'm sure he will try various ways of being on that trip instead of here, where he needs to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Dcps teacher here. I could never work to the clock. My allegiance is to the kids, not dcps and that means doing what's right for them. Not looking for any pats on the back..I just don't know how people do it. I envy the teachers who manage to get out of the building at 3;30. Can't for the life of me figure out how they do it and manage to get their work done.

I'm a DCPS teacher and I leave at 330 everyday. I also get to work at 7:30, work through my lunch and prep time. I will work my butt off for my kids till 3:30. But I have small children at home and I refuse to neglect my own children because of my job. I work on the weekends during nap time and will work after my kids go to bed at night. But from 3:30-8:30 I am 100% mom and I'm sorry if people think I'm a bad teacher because of it. BTW, I get stellar observation scores before someone tries to say otherwise.

I'm glad you do it that way. For years now I've wished DH would put our kids before the kids at work.

Anonymous wrote:Dcps teacher here. I could never work to the clock. My allegiance is to the kids, not dcps and that means doing what's right for them. Not looking for any pats on the back..I just don't know how people do it. I envy the teachers who manage to get out of the building at 3;30. Can't for the life of me figure out how they do it and manage to get their work done.

I'm a DCPS teacher and I leave at 330 everyday. I also get to work at 7:30, work through my lunch and prep time. I will work my butt off for my kids till 3:30. But I have small children at home and I refuse to neglect my own children because of my job. I work on the weekends during nap time and will work after my kids go to bed at night. But from 3:30-8:30 I am 100% mom and I'm sorry if people think I'm a bad teacher because of it. BTW, I get stellar observation scores before someone tries to say otherwise.

I think it needs to be done so people see the difference between what they think teachers do and what teachers really do.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here: Weren't you aware when you entered the teaching field that your pay would not be the same as someone in finance, business, law, medicine, engineering etc? I do not understand the discussion comparing one field to another.

Teachers are not the ones making those comparisons. It's other posters who are saying that teachers should be happy with anything DCPS sends their way while routinely working 10 hour days

Please.
The whole teacher victim thing is way overdone. The pay is good for the hours worked and most teachers choose the profession partly for this reason. There's been a major change in attitude since I was in school and many teachers now won't lift a finger beyond what's absolutely required. They end up in poor schools as principals in better schools don't put up with these attitudes and will make sure the slackers get transferred. If you want a good teaching position in a good school you have to put out the effort. The poor schools end up shortchanged with weak teaching staff made even weaker by unruly students, overwhelmed parents and no volunteers.