Anonymous
Post 05/18/2017 12:22     Subject: Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please do show us the research showing that the high achieving students aren't impacted in a measurable way. Easy to say, hard to prove. So will Wilson honors classes now be considered a joke to college admissions?


The Wilson Honors for all program is based on a similar program implemented in IL in 2011. While the data is still coming in, the reports show an increase in success in honors classes for African American and particularly Hispanic students, and no noticeable decline in success for white students. The report does not get discuss budgets, class sizes or differentiated learning models, but it is worth looking at in order to better understand what Wilson is doing.

Go to: http://www.eths.k12.il.us/Page/755 (the last report listed). Most of the discussion starts at page 16. The program was implemented in 2011-12 and tweaked in 2012-13.

Reading about the results of a similar program lessened my concerns about the program generally. However, implementation and data collection and analysis will be important in the next few years to assess the program's impact and success. In addition, teacher training and coordination at an administrative level will be essential. I have heard from Wilson PTSO and LSAT members that the plan includes more PD & teacher training hours and important counselor involvement in student course selection, however with the budget cuts at Wilson now, including eliminating counselor positions, I am not sure this important component will, or can, actually happen.




So based on incomplete reports from a relatively low-performing school in Illinois the model should be changed. God forbid it should be altered to imitate truly high performing schools like Winston Churchill or Richard Montgomery.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2017 12:05     Subject: Re:Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Anonymous wrote:Regional and national universities and liberal arts colleges seem to be putting less and less stock in GPAs and rank in class as the years go by, and more and more emphasis on standardized test scores, interview reports, evidence of intellectual curiosity and maturity for age, and co-curricular and extra-curricular accomplishments. It's a rational trend, since earning an A average at one school can entail roughly the same amount of work of earning a B, or even a C, average at another school with higher standards (and higher-performing students).





Um, no. If anything, the trend towards SAT optional is growing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/04/12/the-list-of-test-optional-colleges-and-universities-keeps-growing-despite-college-boards-latest-jab/
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2017 09:38     Subject: Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Anonymous wrote:If you dumb down the honors classes far enough, i'm sure previously failing students will appear successful like in Illinois.

Advanced kids won't learn a thing, but who cares.


Can you cite specific evidence that the IL curriculum was "dumbed down"? I didn't see that the data.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2017 08:12     Subject: Re:Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

I went to a high school where I learned almost nothing but got straight A's. I did very well on the SAT and ended up at a great college.
Freshman year was horrendous because I had never seen any of the material before (in college Chemistry, Biology, etc) while it was entirely review for my classmates from good high schools.


Because of my background my I really fear sending my kids to college with A transcripts but no real knowledge. We all have our particular sensitivities based on our personal background and this is mine.
If this is where Wilson is headed (my kids are in late elementary) then we will scrape together every dollar we have to pay for private school.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2017 06:00     Subject: Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

If you dumb down the honors classes far enough, i'm sure previously failing students will appear successful like in Illinois.

Advanced kids won't learn a thing, but who cares.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2017 22:47     Subject: Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Anonymous wrote:Please do show us the research showing that the high achieving students aren't impacted in a measurable way. Easy to say, hard to prove. So will Wilson honors classes now be considered a joke to college admissions?


The Wilson Honors for all program is based on a similar program implemented in IL in 2011. While the data is still coming in, the reports show an increase in success in honors classes for African American and particularly Hispanic students, and no noticeable decline in success for white students. The report does not get discuss budgets, class sizes or differentiated learning models, but it is worth looking at in order to better understand what Wilson is doing.

Go to: http://www.eths.k12.il.us/Page/755 (the last report listed). Most of the discussion starts at page 16. The program was implemented in 2011-12 and tweaked in 2012-13.

Reading about the results of a similar program lessened my concerns about the program generally. However, implementation and data collection and analysis will be important in the next few years to assess the program's impact and success. In addition, teacher training and coordination at an administrative level will be essential. I have heard from Wilson PTSO and LSAT members that the plan includes more PD & teacher training hours and important counselor involvement in student course selection, however with the budget cuts at Wilson now, including eliminating counselor positions, I am not sure this important component will, or can, actually happen.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2017 09:41     Subject: Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Any follow-up information?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2017 23:30     Subject: Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Anonymous wrote:Any clarification or additional news from the school?


I checked the Local School Advisory Team (LSAT) websites for Wilson and Deal. They post meeting minutes on their respective websites but neither site has been updated since April 2016. Does anyone know whether these organizations are still active?? If they are still active, have they discussed the elimination of courses related to Honors For All [None]?

http://wilsonhs.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=127889&type=d&termREC_ID=&pREC_ID=487509

http://alicedeal.org/lsat/
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2017 05:42     Subject: Re:Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

<<I am a Wilson parent and I admit there is a lot at Wilson that drives me crazy>>

Like what? My child is deciding between wilson and another school...
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2017 00:30     Subject: Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Any clarification or additional news from the school?
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2017 20:11     Subject: Re:Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

I agree with the above two posts. No need to start an all out nuclear war.
Parents should band together and voice their concerns in a respectful way.
The focus should be on all children not just those on the top or those on the bottom.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2017 17:47     Subject: Re:Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Anonymous wrote:I am a Wilson parent and I admit there is a lot at Wilson that drives me crazy. However I don't like all these posts talking about firing the principal. She comes across as reasonably intelligent and genuine. There are or should be ways to communicate and give her feedback without trying to get her fired. Parents should email her, attend the coffees and ask the PTA to arrange a Q&A session. I personally think this is a misguided move and will not benefit Wilson students.


Thank you , nice and constructive words. This is what Deal/Hardy/Oyster PTOs should be doing.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2017 17:42     Subject: Re:Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

I am a Wilson parent and I admit there is a lot at Wilson that drives me crazy. However I don't like all these posts talking about firing the principal. She comes across as reasonably intelligent and genuine. There are or should be ways to communicate and give her feedback without trying to get her fired. Parents should email her, attend the coffees and ask the PTA to arrange a Q&A session. I personally think this is a misguided move and will not benefit Wilson students.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2017 16:36     Subject: Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson middle is also a feeder to Wilson at least prior to. To boundary changes. The majority of those kids are not at all ready for honors classes.
So Wilson parents what have you actually said to the principal? No one seems like her so why not get her fired?


Wilson parents are not the targeted community as their kids have already gone through 9th grade under the current arrangement . I know that some Deal parents are having consultations.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2017 16:12     Subject: Is it true that starting from 2017-2018 Wilson HS won't offer honors classes in 9th grade?

Jefferson middle is also a feeder to Wilson at least prior to. To boundary changes. The majority of those kids are not at all ready for honors classes.
So Wilson parents what have you actually said to the principal? No one seems like her so why not get her fired?