Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 08:49     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Think back to our (legal) immigrants (were they all from Europe?) who helped win our Independence...



The Revolutionary War was our first civil war. At the start of the Revolutionary War, we were all English.

Our second Civil War should have never been fought. Lincoln said he'd of allowed the south to retain slavery if it kept the union intact. Our second Civil War was fought over states' rights and taxes flowing from the south to industrialize the north. Lincoln was every bit the racist as was Jefferson Davis. Americans have been conned that the Civil War was fought over slavery. If the Confederate flag represents racism, which it does not, then so does the American flag. If we're gonna vanquish the Confederate flag over the fallacy that it represents racism, them we must also replace the American flag because the Union was every bit as racist, if not more so, than was the Confederacy.

You've swallowed a gullibility potion. No, the Civil War was totally about slavery.


So you know nothing about Civil War history. You're one of many tens of million dumbed down Americans. So you're not foundering along in stupidity.


No. You have been fed revisionist bs. Of course it was about slavery. The Confederacy said it was about slavery. All of the discussion of states rights revolved around slavery. Extension of {what was that thing? Oh yeah, slavery!} into the territories.

I just pulled up the Declaration of Secession of South Carolina. It mentions slavery no fewer than 18 times. That was fun. How about Georgia? Its secession document mentions it over 30 times.

Do I need to keep doing this? Is there some excuse for why they mention slavery so often, yet the war was not about it? Was this a clever ruse on their part?
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 08:37     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:Not more freaking street closures! If he insists on having this expensive crap, inconvenience the people in Florida or Ohio or something. They need parades too. And jobs, don't forget the jobs.


+100!

Traffic would be massively screwed up here!
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 08:28     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Think back to our (legal) immigrants (were they all from Europe?) who helped win our Independence...



The Revolutionary War was our first civil war. At the start of the Revolutionary War, we were all English.

Our second Civil War should have never been fought. Lincoln said he'd of allowed the south to retain slavery if it kept the union intact. Our second Civil War was fought over states' rights and taxes flowing from the south to industrialize the north. Lincoln was every bit the racist as was Jefferson Davis. Americans have been conned that the Civil War was fought over slavery. If the Confederate flag represents racism, which it does not, then so does the American flag. If we're gonna vanquish the Confederate flag over the fallacy that it represents racism, them we must also replace the American flag because the Union was every bit as racist, if not more so, than was the Confederacy.

You've swallowed a gullibility potion. No, the Civil War was totally about slavery.


So you know nothing about Civil War history. You're one of many tens of million dumbed down Americans. So you're not foundering along in stupidity.


Who knows nothing? PP is right about the gullibility potion.


Anyone who has fallen for the propaganda that the Civil War was about slavery has no tacos on his combo platter. All you gotta do is remove all other issues and ask yourselves: if slavery was the only issue causing the Civil War, would whites of that era had slaughtered each other?

Never try to analyze history outside of the era in which an historical event occurred.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 08:24     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Think back to our (legal) immigrants (were they all from Europe?) who helped win our Independence...



The Revolutionary War was our first civil war. At the start of the Revolutionary War, we were all English.

Our second Civil War should have never been fought. Lincoln said he'd of allowed the south to retain slavery if it kept the union intact. Our second Civil War was fought over states' rights and taxes flowing from the south to industrialize the north. Lincoln was every bit the racist as was Jefferson Davis. Americans have been conned that the Civil War was fought over slavery. If the Confederate flag represents racism, which it does not, then so does the American flag. If we're gonna vanquish the Confederate flag over the fallacy that it represents racism, them we must also replace the American flag because the Union was every bit as racist, if not more so, than was the Confederacy.

You've swallowed a gullibility potion. No, the Civil War was totally about slavery.


So you know nothing about Civil War history. You're one of many tens of million dumbed down Americans. So you're not foundering along in stupidity.


Who knows nothing? PP is right about the gullibility potion.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 08:16     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this would be a great way to stick it to the Dems who didn't even have a single flag displayed at their convention.



This is just patently false. Let me guess - you didn't watch you just read about it on Breitbart.


It is true. They only got flags after Trump calling them out.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 08:15     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Think back to our (legal) immigrants (were they all from Europe?) who helped win our Independence...



The Revolutionary War was our first civil war. At the start of the Revolutionary War, we were all English.

Our second Civil War should have never been fought. Lincoln said he'd of allowed the south to retain slavery if it kept the union intact. Our second Civil War was fought over states' rights and taxes flowing from the south to industrialize the north. Lincoln was every bit the racist as was Jefferson Davis. Americans have been conned that the Civil War was fought over slavery. If the Confederate flag represents racism, which it does not, then so does the American flag. If we're gonna vanquish the Confederate flag over the fallacy that it represents racism, them we must also replace the American flag because the Union was every bit as racist, if not more so, than was the Confederacy.

You've swallowed a gullibility potion. No, the Civil War was totally about slavery.


So you know nothing about Civil War history. You're one of many tens of million dumbed down Americans. So you're not foundering along in stupidity.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 06:39     Subject: Re:Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an air force brat. One of the things I remember as a young child is attending military events where they had parades and such. It was quite inspiring. Then, when my son finished boot camp, I was overwhelmed with pride as the soldiers marched onto the field.
For me, there is something deeply moving when watching a military march. Watching our military with such precision and discipline is impressive.
Since less than half of one percent of our population is active military, not everyone has had the opportunity to witness a military parade in person. It stirs patriotism in people.
Perhaps this is what Trump is hoping to invoke in our citizens - a sense of patriotism - non partisan patriotism.


+1

Very few people in America have any contact with the Military.


Why should we? It's volunteer. I chose a different path for my life. I also have very little contact with police, doctors, politicians, garbage collectors, etc. why should I go out of my way to connect with any specific profession?

Your arrogance is truly offensive. Clearly, you didn't live through the Vietnam War and the draft. Personally, I'm deeply grateful to the people who chose to serve on the battlefield so my son didn't have to. A lot of them didn't have the same opportunities and options that you may have. BTW, I'm a liberal and I despise Trump.


Keep reading the thread.

Never said I wasn't grateful. I've volunteered several time for events that honor them. I've laid wreaths on the snow, two months ago a spent a day sanding and repainting the poles across my town that hold all the military memorial plaques in squares, parks and streets, I've run 4 marathons raising funds to support travel and support expenses for injured military and their families. For years the only place I directed my annual united way ongoing contribution was to military causes.

However, none of my personal actions gets me into closer proximity to the military community, which was the issue I was responding to. And even growing up in a military family and choosing to support our military in my own ways, even if that means I don't actually interact with them outside my family, still doesn't change my mind that I need to go seek these individuals out to more directly show my support. And no one else should be kbigayed to either.

I don't care about your politics as it has nothing to do with honoring our military in whatever personal method you choose.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 03:51     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Think back to our (legal) immigrants (were they all from Europe?) who helped win our Independence...



The Revolutionary War was our first civil war. At the start of the Revolutionary War, we were all English.

Our second Civil War should have never been fought. Lincoln said he'd of allowed the south to retain slavery if it kept the union intact. Our second Civil War was fought over states' rights and taxes flowing from the south to industrialize the north. Lincoln was every bit the racist as was Jefferson Davis. Americans have been conned that the Civil War was fought over slavery. If the Confederate flag represents racism, which it does not, then so does the American flag. If we're gonna vanquish the Confederate flag over the fallacy that it represents racism, them we must also replace the American flag because the Union was every bit as racist, if not more so, than was the Confederacy.

You've swallowed a gullibility potion. No, the Civil War was totally about slavery.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 02:24     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:Think back to our (legal) immigrants (were they all from Europe?) who helped win our Independence...



The Revolutionary War was our first civil war. At the start of the Revolutionary War, we were all English.

Our second Civil War should have never been fought. Lincoln said he'd of allowed the south to retain slavery if it kept the union intact. Our second Civil War was fought over states' rights and taxes flowing from the south to industrialize the north. Lincoln was every bit the racist as was Jefferson Davis. Americans have been conned that the Civil War was fought over slavery. If the Confederate flag represents racism, which it does not, then so does the American flag. If we're gonna vanquish the Confederate flag over the fallacy that it represents racism, them we must also replace the American flag because the Union was every bit as racist, if not more so, than was the Confederacy.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 02:17     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Think back to our (legal) immigrants (were they all from Europe?) who helped win our Independence...

Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 02:06     Subject: Re:Trump wants military parades

President Donald J. Trump loves our military, which is why he's ending our foreign policy of intervention consistent with our Founding Fathers' foreign policy of nonintervention.

If foreign countries, can't get along, they ain't gonna be able to rely on American soldiers to resolve their differences. The US military will protect and defend the USA and only the USA. We must extricate ourselves from every entangling alliance (treaty), military and economic. We don't need NATO. It needs us. We don't need the UN. It needs us. If we decide to intervene to defend our closest allies; e.g. GB, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, we'll do it on our terms, not on the terms of an entangling alliance.

I'm long past done with our brave American heroes fighting and dying for the sole benefit of other countries and to protect assets of our shadow government (the Federal Reserve).

"We wish not to meddle with the internal affairs of any country, nor with the general affairs of Europe. No one nation has a right to sit in judgment over another. We ask for peace and justice from all nations; and we will remain uprightly neutral in fact."
---Thomas Jefferson

Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2004/09/laurence-m-vance/peace-commerce-and-honest-friendship/

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." [Patriot Act, NDAA, NSA, TSA etc are about controlling and spying upon Americans, not catching terrorists.]
---James Madison

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." [The primary reason FDR manipulated Americans into WWII.]
---James Madison

"No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." [Neocons use phony wars as a vehicle to enslave us.]
---James Madison

"Of all the enemies of public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other."
---James Madison

"The executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war [only congress has constitutional authority to declare war.]."
---James Madison

"It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended [phony neocons' wars], from abroad."
---James Madison

Our Founding Fathers told us what would happen to us if we were to surrender liberty for the illusion security. We were most stupid by neglecting their prescient admonitions.

Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 01:02     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this would be a great way to stick it to the Dems who didn't even have a single flag displayed at their convention.


When you're actually patriotic, you don't have to wrap yourself up in the flag and carry a cross.


Thank you for this. I am always suspicious of people who need to advertise their values because in my experience those who " advertise" the most live it the least. My view is a bipartisan one--these people exist across the political spectrum.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 00:22     Subject: Trump wants military parades

I'm ok with the parade if they put the price of each plane, tank, or bomb on the outside in big black letters.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2017 23:55     Subject: Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm ok with military marching band parades. And the Blue Angels. But no tanks!


It would be great if you saw tanks and sat in one and saw how small it was for the crew to live and fight in, and see how heavy the rounds are, and appreciate the job tank crews do to defend America. About 3,500 soldiers and their tanks just deployed to Europe to defend Europe, and America by extension.


well maybe, but that's very different from rolling tanks down Penn Ave in a show of force (directed towards your own civilians). I have no beef with military pride like events and in fact there are a lot of them in DC - Vet and Memorial Day parades; war memorials, etc. That is very different from a military mobilization intended as a show of force.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2017 23:38     Subject: Re:Trump wants military parades

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an air force brat. One of the things I remember as a young child is attending military events where they had parades and such. It was quite inspiring. Then, when my son finished boot camp, I was overwhelmed with pride as the soldiers marched onto the field.
For me, there is something deeply moving when watching a military march. Watching our military with such precision and discipline is impressive.
Since less than half of one percent of our population is active military, not everyone has had the opportunity to witness a military parade in person. It stirs patriotism in people.
Perhaps this is what Trump is hoping to invoke in our citizens - a sense of patriotism - non partisan patriotism.


+1

Very few people in America have any contact with the Military.


Why should we? It's volunteer. I chose a different path for my life. I also have very little contact with police, doctors, politicians, garbage collectors, etc. why should I go out of my way to connect with any specific profession?

Your arrogance is truly offensive. Clearly, you didn't live through the Vietnam War and the draft. Personally, I'm deeply grateful to the people who chose to serve on the battlefield so my son didn't have to. A lot of them didn't have the same opportunities and options that you may have. BTW, I'm a liberal and I despise Trump.