Anonymous
Post 01/24/2017 15:47     Subject: 3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this Board are just sad, disgusting human beings. Keep your uninformed, judgmental ideas to yourself. To clear some things up: (1) I have a toddler in DOL currently and have spoken with staff about what happened (2) There were multiple teachers in the room (I've never seen a room without at least two teachers in it), (3) the heimlech and cpr were applied by staff, without success, (4) paramedics arrived, and were still unable to revive the child, (5) the grandmother, not the parents, has been giving interviews to everyone, and she is obviously grieving, but knows nothing about what actually happened, (6) the mother is devastated and hasn't said a word to the media yet, (7) the staff is devastated. I'm very happy with DOL, and we are all sad. For the people who made baseless accusations against the daycare, FOAD!


Nothing mentioned was disgusting or judgemental. Everyone said how shocked and sad they were.


x 2. You're a bit defensive PP


We can give the PP a little room to be defensive and upset. She is part of a grieving community. I am so sorry for your loss, PP. It is a loss in a community that is very important to you and your family. My prayers are with everyone affected by this terrible tragedy.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2017 15:42     Subject: 3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this Board are just sad, disgusting human beings. Keep your uninformed, judgmental ideas to yourself. To clear some things up: (1) I have a toddler in DOL currently and have spoken with staff about what happened (2) There were multiple teachers in the room (I've never seen a room without at least two teachers in it), (3) the heimlech and cpr were applied by staff, without success, (4) paramedics arrived, and were still unable to revive the child, (5) the grandmother, not the parents, has been giving interviews to everyone, and she is obviously grieving, but knows nothing about what actually happened, (6) the mother is devastated and hasn't said a word to the media yet, (7) the staff is devastated. I'm very happy with DOL, and we are all sad. For the people who made baseless accusations against the daycare, FOAD!


Nothing mentioned was disgusting or judgemental. Everyone said how shocked and sad they were.


x 2. You're a bit defensive PP
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2017 15:37     Subject: 3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this Board are just sad, disgusting human beings. Keep your uninformed, judgmental ideas to yourself. To clear some things up: (1) I have a toddler in DOL currently and have spoken with staff about what happened (2) There were multiple teachers in the room (I've never seen a room without at least two teachers in it), (3) the heimlech and cpr were applied by staff, without success, (4) paramedics arrived, and were still unable to revive the child, (5) the grandmother, not the parents, has been giving interviews to everyone, and she is obviously grieving, but knows nothing about what actually happened, (6) the mother is devastated and hasn't said a word to the media yet, (7) the staff is devastated. I'm very happy with DOL, and we are all sad. For the people who made baseless accusations against the daycare, FOAD!


Nothing mentioned was disgusting or judgemental. Everyone said how shocked and sad they were.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2017 15:31     Subject: 3 year old died at the DOL daycare
So many people on this Board are just sad, disgusting human beings. Keep your uninformed, judgmental ideas to yourself. To clear some things up: (1) I have a toddler in DOL currently and have spoken with staff about what happened (2) There were multiple teachers in the room (I've never seen a room without at least two teachers in it), (3) the heimlech and cpr were applied by staff, without success, (4) paramedics arrived, and were still unable to revive the child, (5) the grandmother, not the parents, has been giving interviews to everyone, and she is obviously grieving, but knows nothing about what actually happened, (6) the mother is devastated and hasn't said a word to the media yet, (7) the staff is devastated. I'm very happy with DOL, and we are all sad. For the people who made baseless accusations against the daycare, FOAD!
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2017 09:51     Subject: Re:3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:We desperately need to find someone to blame because it helps us with our own fear. To acknowledge that some things are out of our control can be terrifying. The reality is that sometimes really bad things happen to kids, even when we do everything right.


So true. I hope his family is healing. I can't imagine their loss.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2017 08:03     Subject: Re:3 year old died at the DOL daycare
We desperately need to find someone to blame because it helps us with our own fear. To acknowledge that some things are out of our control can be terrifying. The reality is that sometimes really bad things happen to kids, even when we do everything right.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2017 07:55     Subject: 3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:To the poster who was shocked that there were only 2 teachers for 13 kids.... This is totally within DC child care center ratio, which is 1 to 10 for 2.5-3 year olds and 1 to 8 for 2-2.5 year olds.


I doubt it would have mattered.

First - chocking can be silent so it may have taken a few minutes for it to register with a teacher and even the other kids that something happened,

Another issue is that learning the hemlich maneuver in a classroom on a dummy and then actually performing it correctly and with success in a panic situation are two different things, I doubt my ability to do it and have had CPR training many times. You don't actually practice the maneuver enough and it is possible to do it wrong and produce no result,
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2017 07:52     Subject: 3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:If I had a child at this daycare, I would be looking for an alternative.


Good luck finding a daycare without any accidents.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2017 07:45     Subject: 3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:To the poster who was shocked that there were only 2 teachers for 13 kids.... This is totally within DC child care center ratio, which is 1 to 10 for 2.5-3 year olds and 1 to 8 for 2-2.5 year olds.


For 2-2.5 year olds the ratio is 1 to 4. For 2.5-3 year olds it's 1 to 8.

AGE OF CHILDREN ADULT-TO-CHILD
RATIO MAXIMUM SIZE OF
GROUP
0 - 24 months 1:4 8
24 - 30 months 1:4 12
30 months - 48 months 1:8 16
48 months – 60 months years 1:10 20
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2017 04:24     Subject: 3 year old died at the DOL daycare
To the poster who was shocked that there were only 2 teachers for 13 kids.... This is totally within DC child care center ratio, which is 1 to 10 for 2.5-3 year olds and 1 to 8 for 2-2.5 year olds.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2017 23:29     Subject: Re:3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just hope everyone thinks of this story when they let their kids snack on whatever in the back seat while the parents are focused on driving, or letting their little ones free range snack around the house from one of those cute little muffin tins filled with bite size snacks for easy toddler access.
Had a 2 year old gag choke on a diced peach today because she's a shoveler and doesn't like to chew her food. Not much I can do about it except stay on top of her and never let her eat out of my direct line of sight. But I know that isn't a guarantee she won't choke. Nothing is guaranteed except that accidents happen. I'm so sorry for the family's loss and that the little guy doesn't get to live his life.


You are absolutely right. I've been thinking about this, too. I have let my 3yo snack in the car, and I have let her snack alone while I quickly ran upstairs to change a diaper, etc. This is a good reminder to slow down, stay safe, and focus only on eating and drinking when we are eating and drinking. It is a tragedy, and just absolutely horrible. I am so sorry for the family, the daycare staff, the families at the daycare...but I will honor the life of this little one by renewing my commitment to care and safety.


You are completely right!



+2, well said!
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2017 23:15     Subject: 3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:If I had a child at this daycare, I would be looking for an alternative.

I have two friends with children here. I've heard nothing but amazing things. Please think of how hard this must be on the staff there.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 21:34     Subject: Re:3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Agreed. We don't allow eating while we're in the car driving. Our center uses Good Food and no meatballs on our menu. Good idea of the PP to talk to center director, I will do the same next week.

I can't even imagine the pain and agony the family is going through. Terrible tragedy.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 14:47     Subject: Re:3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just hope everyone thinks of this story when they let their kids snack on whatever in the back seat while the parents are focused on driving, or letting their little ones free range snack around the house from one of those cute little muffin tins filled with bite size snacks for easy toddler access.
Had a 2 year old gag choke on a diced peach today because she's a shoveler and doesn't like to chew her food. Not much I can do about it except stay on top of her and never let her eat out of my direct line of sight. But I know that isn't a guarantee she won't choke. Nothing is guaranteed except that accidents happen. I'm so sorry for the family's loss and that the little guy doesn't get to live his life.


You are absolutely right. I've been thinking about this, too. I have let my 3yo snack in the car, and I have let her snack alone while I quickly ran upstairs to change a diaper, etc. This is a good reminder to slow down, stay safe, and focus only on eating and drinking when we are eating and drinking. It is a tragedy, and just absolutely horrible. I am so sorry for the family, the daycare staff, the families at the daycare...but I will honor the life of this little one by renewing my commitment to care and safety.


You are completely right!
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2017 14:45     Subject: Re:3 year old died at the DOL daycare
Anonymous wrote:I just hope everyone thinks of this story when they let their kids snack on whatever in the back seat while the parents are focused on driving, or letting their little ones free range snack around the house from one of those cute little muffin tins filled with bite size snacks for easy toddler access.
Had a 2 year old gag choke on a diced peach today because she's a shoveler and doesn't like to chew her food. Not much I can do about it except stay on top of her and never let her eat out of my direct line of sight. But I know that isn't a guarantee she won't choke. Nothing is guaranteed except that accidents happen. I'm so sorry for the family's loss and that the little guy doesn't get to live his life.


You are absolutely right. I've been thinking about this, too. I have let my 3yo snack in the car, and I have let her snack alone while I quickly ran upstairs to change a diaper, etc. This is a good reminder to slow down, stay safe, and focus only on eating and drinking when we are eating and drinking. It is a tragedy, and just absolutely horrible. I am so sorry for the family, the daycare staff, the families at the daycare...but I will honor the life of this little one by renewing my commitment to care and safety.