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Anonymous wrote:Like the coward he is, he wouldn't actually allow himself to go through the trial. He'll resign.

I don't even think he'll let them start. He'll just make like Sarah Palin and quit.

I don't think he knows how to quit. Rather than quit, he'll take everyone down with him. I COULD possibly see him claiming a medical reason as an excuse though.

Anonymous wrote:The 25th Amendment gives another route, namely a declaration by the VP and a majority of the cabinet that the Pres is incapable of carrying out his duties. However, if the Pres disputes this, it takes a 2/3 majority of both houses to get rid of him.

Pence us nothing more than a lapdog!

Yeah, well it's just another day if they don't nail Bannon and Priebus in the process.

Anonymous wrote:Wishful thinking.

Ryan is evil. Trump is just not in control. Which is worse? Only the crystal ball knows.

The 25th Amendment gives another route, namely a declaration by the VP and a majority of the cabinet that the Pres is incapable of carrying out his duties. However, if the Pres disputes this, it takes a 2/3 majority of both houses to get rid of him.

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Anonymous wrote:Impeachment and removal from office?

Some liberals are really delusional.

I think SOME Trump voters are delusional.
Many folks held their nose and voted for him. Just because they disliked Hillary so much.
They are not loyal to him. They love their country more than they love him.

In the annals of history it won't make a damn bit of difference if you smiled and voted or held your nose and voted. You voted for him and in doing so, you lost a fundamental piece of humanity. Anyone who voted for him will be lumped into the same excoriated, reviled pile.

Hear, hear!

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Anonymous wrote:Impeachment and removal from office?

Some liberals are really delusional.

I think SOME Trump voters are delusional.
Many folks held their nose and voted for him. Just because they disliked Hillary so much.
They are not loyal to him. They love their country more than they love him.

In the annals of history it won't make a damn bit of difference if you smiled and voted or held your nose and voted. You voted for him and in doing so, you lost a fundamental piece of humanity. Anyone who voted for him will be lumped into the same excoriated, reviled pile.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, no. He was impeached. Impeachment happens in the house.

The articles of impeachment then move to the senate, where a trial is held. They held a trial. In the end, he did not lose his job.

THANK YOU. Bill Clinton was impeached by the House but not convicted by the Senate, so he did not leave office.

But this is virtually irrelevant in Trump's case, because if it gets bad enough that this House has the votes to impeach him, this Senate will absolutely convict him.

And you base this on what? An impulse? Wishful thinking? A bee in your bonnet?

Based on the number of votes needed to impeach in the House and convict in the Senate, and also based upon the current political composition of each. If whatever Trump has done or will do is bad enough to get a simple majority vote for impeachment in the House, which contains a much larger majority of Republicans than the Senate and has many more actual Trump supporters, I think getting a 2/3 vote for conviction in the Senate, which is more evenly divided and has many more Republicans who are NOT fans of Trump, is likely.

Hmm! They would need almost 20 Republican senators to flip - and that is assuming that all the Democratic senators will support conviction. It will not happen even if he shoots someone in the presence of witnesses on 5th Avenue!

What do you think would be the chances of reelection for Republican senators who vote to convict a sitting Republican president? Hard as it may be to believe both Republican and Democratic elected officials are more concerned about their political survival than anything else.

The current makeup is 52 Republicans and 48 Democrats (or others caucusing with Democrats.) 67 votes needed to convict. I'm not talking about lying about a blow job here, though. I'm talking if the worst possible and eminently verifiable things come out about collusion with Russia, because to get through the House it will need to be bad. You think Rand Paul and Jeff Flake and John McCain and Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio and Susan Collins and Ben Sasse and Rob Portman, just off the top of my head, won't vote to convict? There will still be a Republican president once Trump leaves office.

Let me just say - and it dates me in acknowledging this - I closely followed the Nixon impeachment. Democrats then controlled the Senate. It literally took a taped recording of Nixon, in his voice, orchestrating the cover up of the Watergate burglary before there were enough Republican senators who were willing to flip. Even then, there were quite a few Republican senators who were not willing to vote to convict but between the Democratic majority and the Republicans who were willing to flip they believed there were at least 67.

There are now 52 Republicans and it would have to be something downright incriminating and amounting to a "high crime" with irrefutable proof before Republicans would turn on Trump. This is because in the ultimate analysis, their primary concern is their reelection. Applies to the Senate and the House.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, no. He was impeached. Impeachment happens in the house.

The articles of impeachment then move to the senate, where a trial is held. They held a trial. In the end, he did not lose his job.

THANK YOU. Bill Clinton was impeached by the House but not convicted by the Senate, so he did not leave office.

But this is virtually irrelevant in Trump's case, because if it gets bad enough that this House has the votes to impeach him, this Senate will absolutely convict him.

And you base this on what? An impulse? Wishful thinking? A bee in your bonnet?

Based on the number of votes needed to impeach in the House and convict in the Senate, and also based upon the current political composition of each. If whatever Trump has done or will do is bad enough to get a simple majority vote for impeachment in the House, which contains a much larger majority of Republicans than the Senate and has many more actual Trump supporters, I think getting a 2/3 vote for conviction in the Senate, which is more evenly divided and has many more Republicans who are NOT fans of Trump, is likely.

Hmm! They would need almost 20 Republican senators to flip - and that is assuming that all the Democratic senators will support conviction. It will not happen even if he shoots someone in the presence of witnesses on 5th Avenue!

What do you think would be the chances of reelection for Republican senators who vote to convict a sitting Republican president? Hard as it may be to believe both Republican and Democratic elected officials are more concerned about their political survival than anything else.

The current makeup is 52 Republicans and 48 Democrats (or others caucusing with Democrats.) 67 votes needed to convict. I'm not talking about lying about a blow job here, though. I'm talking if the worst possible and eminently verifiable things come out about collusion with Russia, because to get through the House it will need to be bad. You think Rand Paul and Jeff Flake and John McCain and Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio and Susan Collins and Ben Sasse and Rob Portman, just off the top of my head, won't vote to convict? There will still be a Republican president once Trump leaves office.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, no. He was impeached. Impeachment happens in the house.

The articles of impeachment then move to the senate, where a trial is held. They held a trial. In the end, he did not lose his job.

THANK YOU. Bill Clinton was impeached by the House but not convicted by the Senate, so he did not leave office.

But this is virtually irrelevant in Trump's case, because if it gets bad enough that this House has the votes to impeach him, this Senate will absolutely convict him.

And you base this on what? An impulse? Wishful thinking? A bee in your bonnet?

Based on the number of votes needed to impeach in the House and convict in the Senate, and also based upon the current political composition of each. If whatever Trump has done or will do is bad enough to get a simple majority vote for impeachment in the House, which contains a much larger majority of Republicans than the Senate and has many more actual Trump supporters, I think getting a 2/3 vote for conviction in the Senate, which is more evenly divided and has many more Republicans who are NOT fans of Trump, is likely.

Hmm! They would need almost 20 Republican senators to flip - and that is assuming that all the Democratic senators will support conviction. It will not happen even if he shoots someone in the presence of witnesses on 5th Avenue!

What do you think would be the chances of reelection for Republican senators who vote to convict a sitting Republican president? Hard as it may be to believe both Republican and Democratic elected officials are more concerned about their political survival than anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, no. He was impeached. Impeachment happens in the house.

The articles of impeachment then move to the senate, where a trial is held. They held a trial. In the end, he did not lose his job.

THANK YOU. Bill Clinton was impeached by the House but not convicted by the Senate, so he did not leave office.

But this is virtually irrelevant in Trump's case, because if it gets bad enough that this House has the votes to impeach him, this Senate will absolutely convict him.

And you base this on what? An impulse? Wishful thinking? A bee in your bonnet?

Based on the number of votes needed to impeach in the House and convict in the Senate, and also based upon the current political composition of each. If whatever Trump has done or will do is bad enough to get a simple majority vote for impeachment in the House, which contains a much larger majority of Republicans than the Senate and has many more actual Trump supporters, I think getting a 2/3 vote for conviction in the Senate, which is more evenly divided and has many more Republicans who are NOT fans of Trump, is likely.

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Anonymous wrote:Impeachment and removal from office?

Some liberals are really delusional.

I think SOME Trump voters are delusional.
Many folks held their nose and voted for him. Just because they disliked Hillary so much.
They are not loyal to him. They love their country more than they love him.

Yep those were the white democratic women. LOL

Anonymous wrote:Impeachment and removal from office?

Some liberals are really delusional.

I think SOME Trump voters are delusional.
Many folks held their nose and voted for him. Just because they disliked Hillary so much.
They are not loyal to him. They love their country more than they love him.

Anonymous wrote:You can argue this away all you want and try to be a bullshit artist like the Cheeto king and his minions.

They say all these things to save face. They hope we'll forget when they change their minds later.

Fact remains that the senate had said they weren't going to hold hearings. Then suddenly, yesterday...

Shit is about to get real, peeps.

You are a moron because I did not and don't support Trump. But spreading nonsensical crap about the senate hearings is just idiotic.

Provide a citation as to where the senate refused to hold hearings in the past week or so and then changed their minds yesterday. Don't make up nonsense and then accuse people of supporting the "Cheeto king" because you can't support your own statements. You must be the same clown who said the senate would definitely convict Trump if he is impeached.

You can argue this away all you want and try to be a bullshit artist like the Cheeto king and his minions.

They say all these things to save face. They hope we'll forget when they change their minds later.

Fact remains that the senate had said they weren't going to hold hearings. Then suddenly, yesterday...

Shit is about to get real, peeps.