Anonymous
12/20/2016 12:20
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Washington Latin or Capitol City get such great deals? I know their buildings were in awful ondition...
You raise a good point: the terms that Lab is getting are far better than what public charter school are getting on former DCPS properties -- despite the fact that charters are actual public schools that serve DC residents, and Lab is a private school that primarily serves out-of-staters.
Ha! If this were the test, then the principals of a a number of DC public schools and charters should lose their funding -- because a substantial number of their students whose parents claim DC residency in fact reside out-of-state, especially in "Ward 9" (PG)!
Anonymous
12/20/2016 11:39
Subject: Re:DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf
A lease costing $80,000 which they wont have to pay because of credits is a steal in that neighborhood.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 11:12
Subject: Re:DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf
Plus, I don't think people who oppose Lab understand the concept of IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Act) or FAPE (Free Appropriate Public Education). The kids who are funded at Lab are there b/c they couldn't learn in the public school.
"If you have a child with a disability, your child is entitled to FAPE - a free appropriate public education, under the IDEA...In a nutshell, FAPE is an individualized educational program that is designed to meet the child's unique needs and from which the child receives educational benefit, and prepares them for further education, employment, and independent living."
http://www.wrightslaw.com/nltr/10/nl.0921.htm
I absolutely understand IDEA, IDEIA, and FAPE. It's not relevant at all. Lab educates some DCPS kids who have a nonpublic placement, and Lab is paid tuition in exchange for that. They are not a public agency. They are a private nonprofit school. Having public students placed there does not mean that the city provides them with space. They are responsible for their own finances. It's not complicated.
That doesn't equate to "opposing" Lab. I'm sure it's a great school.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 11:10
Subject: Re:DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf
It's being leased for a total of 50 years, and for the first 25, they would pay almost nothing. And it's being done on an "emergency" basis by the council, despite the fact that Lab's current lease isn't up for 7 years. What's the rush? Let the council answer some of the objections made in this thread.
You posted a link there. Not sure why.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 11:09
Subject: Re:DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf
Plus, I don't think people who oppose Lab understand the concept of IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Act) or FAPE (Free Appropriate Public Education). The kids who are funded at Lab are there b/c they couldn't learn in the public school.
"If you have a child with a disability, your child is entitled to FAPE - a free appropriate public education, under the IDEA...In a nutshell, FAPE is an individualized educational program that is designed to meet the child's unique needs and from which the child receives educational benefit, and prepares them for further education, employment, and independent living."
http://www.wrightslaw.com/nltr/10/nl.0921.htm
Anonymous
12/20/2016 11:07
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
More kids live in the city and attend the Lab School but so what? It's still a private school.
Lab should be getting no better terms than they have given charters who take over surplused space.
It's not just a "private school." It's designated as an LEA (Local Education Agency) by DCPS along with:
Chelsea School (Hyattsville, MD)
Childrens Guild - Prince George's (Chillum, MD)
Episcopal Center for Children (DC)
Harbour School Annapolis (Annapolis, MD)
Ivymount School (Rockville, MD)
Kennedy Krieger: Fairmont Campus (Baltimore, MD)
Kingsbury Day School (DC)
Lab School of Washington (DC)
Page 8
http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf
So if the DC kids didn't go to Lab, they would be sent somewhere else on this list. Lab isn't getting a "deal" compared to other charters. They are providing education that the charters don't provide.
Like all the other schools on the list, they are compensated by tuition for every student placed there. If the DC Council wants to reward them additionally with a favorable real estate deal, fine -- let's just use an ordinary process that doesn't use emergency legislation. And let's consider fair treatment between Lab and other schools on that list, and the needs of DCPS and public charter schools.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 11:07
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
So if the DC kids didn't go to Lab, they would be sent somewhere else on this list. Lab isn't getting a "deal" compared to other charters. They are providing education that the charters don't provide.
are any other schools on that list of LEAS getting land deals o. DCPS property? This school charges dcps 45 to 60 K per child too
Anonymous
12/20/2016 11:03
Subject: Re:DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf
http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf
Anonymous
12/20/2016 10:59
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
More kids live in the city and attend the Lab School but so what? It's still a private school.
Lab should be getting no better terms than they have given charters who take over surplused space.
It's not just a "private school." It's designated as an LEA (Local Education Agency) by DCPS along with:
Chelsea School (Hyattsville, MD)
Childrens Guild - Prince George's (Chillum, MD)
Episcopal Center for Children (DC)
Harbour School Annapolis (Annapolis, MD)
Ivymount School (Rockville, MD)
Kennedy Krieger: Fairmont Campus (Baltimore, MD)
Kingsbury Day School (DC)
Lab School of Washington (DC)
Page 8
http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf
So if the DC kids didn't go to Lab, they would be sent somewhere else on this list. Lab isn't getting a "deal" compared to other charters. They are providing education that the charters don't provide.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 10:52
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In 2015, 45 students at Lab (of 350 total) were placed there at DCPS expense.
See this link, attachment F, page 5 http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf
Where did you get 350 total? There are less than 150 students at Lab in total.
Their website.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 10:50
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:In 2015, 45 students at Lab (of 350 total) were placed there at DCPS expense.
See this link, attachment F, page 5 http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf
Where did you get 350 total? There are less than 150 students at Lab in total.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 10:34
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Washington Latin or Capitol City get such great deals? I know their buildings were in awful ondition...
You raise a good point: the terms that Lab is getting are far better than what public charter school are getting on former DCPS properties -- despite the fact that charters are actual public schools that serve DC residents, and Lab is a private school that primarily serves out-of-staters.
No, this is a lie. More than half the students in the Hardy building live in DC. Many are funded by DCPS b/c they were unable to teach them in the public schools.
Before you go calling people liars, you got a cite for that? The legislation says 26% from DCPS.
Those are kids with FUNDING. I can see the school directory. More than half the kids at the Hardy Building live in the district.
So bsaed on the OSSE data, 26% is just wrong.
12% of students get funding. More kids live in the city and attend the Lab School but so what? It's still a private school.
Lab should be getting no better terms than they have given charters who take over surplused space.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 10:28
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
In 2015, 45 students at Lab (of 350 total) were placed there at DCPS expense.
See this link, attachment F, page 5 http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf
See this link, attachment F, page 5 http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf
Anonymous
12/20/2016 10:21
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Washington Latin or Capitol City get such great deals? I know their buildings were in awful ondition...
You raise a good point: the terms that Lab is getting are far better than what public charter school are getting on former DCPS properties -- despite the fact that charters are actual public schools that serve DC residents, and Lab is a private school that primarily serves out-of-staters.
No, this is a lie. More than half the students in the Hardy building live in DC. Many are funded by DCPS b/c they were unable to teach them in the public schools.
Before you go calling people liars, you got a cite for that? The legislation says 26% from DCPS.
Those are kids with FUNDING. I can see the school directory. More than half the kids at the Hardy Building live in the district.
Anonymous
12/20/2016 10:14
Subject: DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Washington Latin or Capitol City get such great deals? I know their buildings were in awful ondition...
You raise a good point: the terms that Lab is getting are far better than what public charter school are getting on former DCPS properties -- despite the fact that charters are actual public schools that serve DC residents, and Lab is a private school that primarily serves out-of-staters.
No, this is a lie. More than half the students in the Hardy building live in DC. Many are funded by DCPS b/c they were unable to teach them in the public schools.
Before you go calling people liars, you got a cite for that? The legislation says 26% from DCPS.