Anonymous wrote:OP here. Leaking TRUE information is not the same as "manipulating" an election. If it was, then every media outlet, including (gasp!) foreign media outlets, would be guilty of "manipulating" the election results. Now if Russia hacked the voting machines and actually changed the vote count, that would be a totally different story. Releasing true information is the way our society works. If our domestic media sources are totally biased and will only break negative stories about one candidate, then that's a problem that I'm happy to have an external entity fix. Bravo to them for doing so.

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know a phishing link was "Russian hacking"?

I didn't know someone at the DNC downloading and leaking their email system was "Russian hacking"?

I didn't know the DNC laughing off the FBI about security threats was "Russian hacking"?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the Democrats are hysterical because they thought Hillary was a cinch to win the election and for them the only question was how much of a landslide it would be in terms of the electoral college.

Hillary lost and, in fact, got trounced. They cannot get over that shock and then it makes it worse that they thought they would gain control of the Senate but that did not happen. They even thought there was an outside chance that they would regain control of the House and that also did not happen. So it has been a loss on every front.

The crowning humiliation is that Trump does not give a shit what the Democrats or the media thinks so when they rant about him, he just makes fun of them and mocks them. He has nominated people for his cabinet who Democrats don't like and he tells them to go fly a kite.

The Democrats don't know how to deal with him so they went with Jill Stein's recount which blew up in their faces. Now their latest ploy is to use the Russian hacking to get the electoral college to vote against Trump and they will lose on this as well. After all, one of the leaders of that effort is Nancy Pelosi's daughter which tells you how desperate they are! After he is inaugurated, they will start about impeaching Trump and that too will pass ........

Trump's nominees will get confirmed courtesy of Harry Reid who used the nuclear option to eliminate the filibuster! So Reid is there ranting about everything under the sun about Trump and the FBI and Comey and the Russians and he does not realize that he is yesterday's news.

This, exactly. The MSM, Obama and the Dems have lost all credibility outside of their sanctuary city bubbles. They are all desperate to remain relevant.

The Russian trolls have returned. Your attempts at distraction won't work. There will be an investigation to determine why Trump's top aides (Flynn, Mannafort, and Phillips) had contact with senior Russian officials though out the summer and exactly how much money and to whom in Russia Trump owes money.

Of course, he could just release his tax returns, that would save some time.

I encourage investigation of any improprieties and if anyone broke the law, he/she should be prosecuted. But I can assure you that if they are cleared Democrats will be claiming that it was a fix!

I seriously doubt he will release any tax returns and, guess what, the electorate does not give a shit about it because otherwise they would not have voted for him. You really don't get it!

You forget the only other options was Hillary. I think the electorate does care (not the 30% or so super-Trumpers, but the rest).
Winning against Hillary is really not such a badge of honor or sign of success.

Now, this I agree with but the Democrats nominated Hillary and really screwed themselves in the process ....... and that is the main reason they lost against Trump. Not the Russian hacking ....... it was plain and simple because you nominated a totally flawed candidate who had no message.

So own it and try and have a winning message, agenda and candidate in 2020.

Anonymous wrote:I think that every one is disturbed by any hacking by a foreign power. It just so happened that the DNC got duped. But what was released has not been challenged for its truthfulness. Just that it was disclosed and by whom.

And before getting in a fluster about this being collusion between Trump and the Russians, note that the Russians also tried to hack the RNC the same way. The RNC, however, just didn't fall for it . . .or got lucky or both.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/republican-national-committee-security-foiled-russian-hackers-1481850043

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the Democrats are hysterical because they thought Hillary was a cinch to win the election and for them the only question was how much of a landslide it would be in terms of the electoral college.

Hillary lost and, in fact, got trounced. They cannot get over that shock and then it makes it worse that they thought they would gain control of the Senate but that did not happen. They even thought there was an outside chance that they would regain control of the House and that also did not happen. So it has been a loss on every front.

The crowning humiliation is that Trump does not give a shit what the Democrats or the media thinks so when they rant about him, he just makes fun of them and mocks them. He has nominated people for his cabinet who Democrats don't like and he tells them to go fly a kite.

The Democrats don't know how to deal with him so they went with Jill Stein's recount which blew up in their faces. Now their latest ploy is to use the Russian hacking to get the electoral college to vote against Trump and they will lose on this as well. After all, one of the leaders of that effort is Nancy Pelosi's daughter which tells you how desperate they are! After he is inaugurated, they will start about impeaching Trump and that too will pass ........

Trump's nominees will get confirmed courtesy of Harry Reid who used the nuclear option to eliminate the filibuster! So Reid is there ranting about everything under the sun about Trump and the FBI and Comey and the Russians and he does not realize that he is yesterday's news.

This, exactly. The MSM, Obama and the Dems have lost all credibility outside of their sanctuary city bubbles. They are all desperate to remain relevant.

The Russian trolls have returned. Your attempts at distraction won't work. There will be an investigation to determine why Trump's top aides (Flynn, Mannafort, and Phillips) had contact with senior Russian officials though out the summer and exactly how much money and to whom in Russia Trump owes money.

Of course, he could just release his tax returns, that would save some time.

Not Russian... Why can't you understand NOT EVERYONE SHARES YOUR OPINION. American citizens can disagree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Leaking TRUE information is not the same as "manipulating" an election. If it was, then every media outlet, including (gasp!) foreign media outlets, would be guilty of "manipulating" the election results. Now if Russia hacked the voting machines and actually changed the vote count, that would be a totally different story. Releasing true information is the way our society works. If our domestic media sources are totally biased and will only break negative stories about one candidate, then that's a problem that I'm happy to have an external entity fix. Bravo to them for doing so.

it is manipulation when you only leak information about one party in the election.

So CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, Washington Post, et al. are also guilty then? What if one of those media outlets is foreign-owned? Does that also justify clutching one's pearls?

Allegations of hacking by Russia is now pearl clutching. Wow.

We enter an era where no fact matters, blatant bigotry and plutocracy are celebrated as Making America Great Again, and reckless, irresponsible, and corrupt behavior from Trump and his cronies in the States and abroad, no matter how dangerous to our democracy, national security, and civil society, is normalized.

Perfectly a-ok for Trump to urge the Russians to hack into our systems and no big deal that Trump and his associates not only invited the hacks but then suppressed investigations for political gain. Just like no big deal that his kids sit in official meetings with policy makers and foreign business and leaders. Nothing tonsee here!

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Anonymous wrote:If Clinton won we'd never hear a peep about this. This is Obama/Clinton's vessel to taint Trump's win -- that's all. Sour grapes.

We heard about this all summer and fall.

When did Obama order an investigation? When did he promise retaliation? Was it before or after Hillary lost?

before.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/obama-administration-accuses-russian-government-of-election-year-hacking-229296

The White House wanted to act and GOP leadership, including Comey, shut it down because they knew to gain from the information being released.

Are people just not getting it?
Why does this have to be explained over and over again?

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Anonymous wrote:If Clinton won we'd never hear a peep about this. This is Obama/Clinton's vessel to taint Trump's win -- that's all. Sour grapes.

We heard about this all summer and fall.

When did Obama order an investigation? When did he promise retaliation? Was it before or after Hillary lost?

before.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/obama-administration-accuses-russian-government-of-election-year-hacking-229296

The White House wanted to act and GOP leadership, including Comey, shut it down because they knew to gain from the information being released.

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Anonymous wrote:If Clinton won we'd never hear a peep about this. This is Obama/Clinton's vessel to taint Trump's win -- that's all. Sour grapes.

We heard about this all summer and fall.

When did Obama order an investigation? When did he promise retaliation? Was it before or after Hillary lost?

before.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/obama-administration-accuses-russian-government-of-election-year-hacking-229296

The White House wanted to act and GOP leadership, including Comey, shut it down because they knew to gain from the information being released.

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Anonymous wrote:If Clinton won we'd never hear a peep about this. This is Obama/Clinton's vessel to taint Trump's win -- that's all. Sour grapes.

We heard about this all summer and fall.

When did Obama order an investigation? When did he promise retaliation? Was it before or after Hillary lost?

before.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/obama-administration-accuses-russian-government-of-election-year-hacking-229296

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Leaking TRUE information is not the same as "manipulating" an election. If it was, then every media outlet, including (gasp!) foreign media outlets, would be guilty of "manipulating" the election results. Now if Russia hacked the voting machines and actually changed the vote count, that would be a totally different story. Releasing true information is the way our society works. If our domestic media sources are totally biased and will only break negative stories about one candidate, then that's a problem that I'm happy to have an external entity fix. Bravo to them for doing so.

it is manipulation when you only leak information about one party in the election.

So CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, Washington Post, et al. are also guilty then? What if one of those media outlets is foreign-owned? Does that also justify clutching one's pearls?

Allegations of hacking by Russia is now pearl clutching. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:If Clinton won we'd never hear a peep about this. This is Obama/Clinton's vessel to taint Trump's win -- that's all. Sour grapes.

We heard about this all summer and fall.

When did Obama order an investigation? When did he promise retaliation? Was it before or after Hillary lost?

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the Republican emails weren't filled with delicious inside gossip that would have shown them to be horses' asses in the same manner that the Democrat emails were, so they weren't worth bothering to release.