Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it depends on the person but also on their family and the sound level they're used to. And on a larger scale it's a cultural thing as well.

Anecdotally, I live in Paris where locals have the reputation of unkind/impatient with tourists, but I think some of it is just tourists being very loud and completely oblivious to the level of noise they're generating. French people speak very softly, even in Paris, and oftentimes on the subway the only voices you'll hear will be tourists yelling at each other and disturbing the peace and quiet. In some cases the unfriendliness is just a visceral reaction to people "hurting" your ears!

+1 I grew up in Europe and the middle east and came to the US as a teenager. Americans, as a whole, are very loud! In many countries it's considered low class to talk loudly in public, but obviously not here!

Funny. I lived in Italy as a teen and grew to love the loud, spirited conversations. I think it's why now, as an adult, I have no tolerance for quiet people. Once you get used to that outgoing, louder friendliness, you have no real use for the mealy-mouthed or judgmental types.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it depends on the person but also on their family and the sound level they're used to. And on a larger scale it's a cultural thing as well.

Anecdotally, I live in Paris where locals have the reputation of unkind/impatient with tourists, but I think some of it is just tourists being very loud and completely oblivious to the level of noise they're generating. French people speak very softly, even in Paris, and oftentimes on the subway the only voices you'll hear will be tourists yelling at each other and disturbing the peace and quiet. In some cases the unfriendliness is just a visceral reaction to people "hurting" your ears!

Yes, Americans in general are so loud! Very embarrassing when traveling abroad...pull out my Canadian flag.

Anonymous wrote:ADHD

Anonymous wrote:I am naturally loud. I grew up in a household where multiple people spoke at once and you were often involved in 3-4 conversations at once with different people. Yes, I know that I am loud and have been shushed regularly. The problem is that this is my default and I have to concentrate literally constantly to modulate my voice quieter so that it stays quieter. Otherwise, I'll be quieter for a few sentences and as my mind passes on to other things, including the conversation, then my voice goes back to loud. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.

Conversely, there are a lot of timid and quieter speakers that I know that speak so softly and then get frustrated when people don't notice or hear them speaking, or don't think the person is talking to them. So, they are asked to speak up/louder and they'll do so for a few sentences and then go quieter again and have to be reminded to speak up or be ignored. These people are especially annoying on telecons or just regular phone conversations where you can't hear them over the phone. It works both ways. And frankly, I find the quiet speakers to be more annoying, but I try to be accommodating to both loud and quiet speakers where possible and to accept the fact that some people speak louder, some speak softer and try to work with each person to communicate.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so loud. I don't really care if it annoys people.

We just moved to an open floor plan at work and I had 2 women complain about my "loudness"... I tell them to tell the survey.

Good news I am getting a promotion and an office in a few weeks and that will piss them off more than my "loudness".

My NY friends are louder.

+1

I think it's just socially awkward introverts that are bothered by it. I don't think the normal people care.

+1

And people who "pride themselves" on being such. LOL.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so loud. I don't really care if it annoys people.

We just moved to an open floor plan at work and I had 2 women complain about my "loudness"... I tell them to tell the survey.

Good news I am getting a promotion and an office in a few weeks and that will piss them off more than my "loudness".

My NY friends are louder.

+1

I think it's just socially awkward introverts that are bothered by it. I don't think the normal people care.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it depends on the person but also on their family and the sound level they're used to. And on a larger scale it's a cultural thing as well.

Anecdotally, I live in Paris where locals have the reputation of unkind/impatient with tourists, but I think some of it is just tourists being very loud and completely oblivious to the level of noise they're generating. French people speak very softly, even in Paris, and oftentimes on the subway the only voices you'll hear will be tourists yelling at each other and disturbing the peace and quiet. In some cases the unfriendliness is just a visceral reaction to people "hurting" your ears!

Yes, Americans in general are so loud! Very embarrassing when traveling abroad...pull out my Canadian flag.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it depends on the person but also on their family and the sound level they're used to. And on a larger scale it's a cultural thing as well.

Anecdotally, I live in Paris where locals have the reputation of unkind/impatient with tourists, but I think some of it is just tourists being very loud and completely oblivious to the level of noise they're generating. French people speak very softly, even in Paris, and oftentimes on the subway the only voices you'll hear will be tourists yelling at each other and disturbing the peace and quiet. In some cases the unfriendliness is just a visceral reaction to people "hurting" your ears!

+1 I grew up in Europe and the middle east and came to the US as a teenager. Americans, as a whole, are very loud! In many countries it's considered low class to talk loudly in public, but obviously not here!

Anonymous wrote:I think it depends on the person but also on their family and the sound level they're used to. And on a larger scale it's a cultural thing as well.

Anecdotally, I live in Paris where locals have the reputation of unkind/impatient with tourists, but I think some of it is just tourists being very loud and completely oblivious to the level of noise they're generating. French people speak very softly, even in Paris, and oftentimes on the subway the only voices you'll hear will be tourists yelling at each other and disturbing the peace and quiet. In some cases the unfriendliness is just a visceral reaction to people "hurting" your ears!

Anonymous wrote:I think it depends on the person but also on their family and the sound level they're used to. And on a larger scale it's a cultural thing as well.

Anecdotally, I live in Paris where locals have the reputation of unkind/impatient with tourists, but I think some of it is just tourists being very loud and completely oblivious to the level of noise they're generating. French people speak very softly, even in Paris, and oftentimes on the subway the only voices you'll hear will be tourists yelling at each other and disturbing the peace and quiet. In some cases the unfriendliness is just a visceral reaction to people "hurting" your ears!

Anonymous wrote:

doodlebug wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so loud. I don't really care if it annoys people.

We just moved to an open floor plan at work and I had 2 women complain about my "loudness"... I tell them to tell the survey.

Good news I am getting a promotion and an office in a few weeks and that will piss them off more than my "loudness".

My NY friends are louder.

The issue the other people have has less to do with the loudness (though it's certainly a problem if they're complaining) but it's your attitude of "the world revolves around me and screw everyone else" that's the problem. If they had gone straight to your boss or HR to complain you'd be mad that they didn't come to you first and deal with you like an adult, face to face. Well they did, and your attitude is why people going behind other people's backs to the boss or HR instead of trying to deal with issues head on.

Not PP but that is the pot calling kettle black.

The loud talker did not complain about anyone. It is the complainer that thinks the world revolves around them and needs the whole workforce to comply with her little needs to be a productive employee.










Read your post from the opposite perspective....sounds the same. Both sides need to be a little forgiving of the other.

This is why every classroom need SN kids, a kid with ADHD, preferably a child with Tourette's. His is real life and being raised in a bubble has not served you well.

Sorry, but the whole world is not conforming to your little needs so you can be happy. Grow the f up.

Learn to deal, learn to ignore, learn to operate in environments that are not perfect.... Little snowflake it's getting warm.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a double threat. ADHD AND hearing loss since birth. He would drive you nuts. We are working with a specialist to help him understand how to have conversations with others, and manage his impulsivity and confusion when he can't follow conversations.

Sounds trite, but remember that people are fighting battles you will never know or comprehend. This little 6 year old amazing guy is one of them.

OP here. I'm not really talking about children here. I know they're loud. You don't have to defend your son. I'm talking about (as some people on DCUM like to say) "grown ass adults."

doodlebug wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so loud. I don't really care if it annoys people.

We just moved to an open floor plan at work and I had 2 women complain about my "loudness"... I tell them to tell the survey.

Good news I am getting a promotion and an office in a few weeks and that will piss them off more than my "loudness".

My NY friends are louder.

The issue the other people have has less to do with the loudness (though it's certainly a problem if they're complaining) but it's your attitude of "the world revolves around me and screw everyone else" that's the problem. If they had gone straight to your boss or HR to complain you'd be mad that they didn't come to you first and deal with you like an adult, face to face. Well they did, and your attitude is why people going behind other people's backs to the boss or HR instead of trying to deal with issues head on.