Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please, people.
None of your rights will be taken away. NONE.
Calm down. The world is not burning, despite what the liberal media have predicted.

Agreed. You folks are acting paranoid as hell. Calm down.

-Dem

Tell this to states that have slowly, incrementally made it nearly impossible for women to get abortions.

This is because Roe v Wade made these states allow abortions when they didn't want to. So they are finding ways to make it very difficult, skirting around the ruling. Other states would have even more liberal abortion laws were not for the R v W restrictions. This is what happens when the courts are used to ram through things that states should determine. You want liberal abortion laws throughout the US? Do the hard work of a Constitutional Amendment, not the short cut of stacking the SC to be aligned with your beliefs to make a decision imposed on all, no matter the support in individual states.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anything women should go out and stock up on now, because it will be banned under Trump?

Any type of birth control that isn't contraceptive -- the pill, IUDs, implants.

It will take time for a Trump court to overturn Roe v Wade, of course, but they will try. And anyone who lives in a state that passes some "life begins at conception" law would necessarily outlaw abortifacient birth control.

This is ludicrous. They won't be banned. They just won't be free anymore. An IUD will set a woman back $500. If you don't have $500, are sexually active and want to ensure that you don't get pregnant - now is the time to get them.

But the technology will still be there for those who can pay.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's just not true. But okay - go ahead and believe that there won't be any backlash against women. Right.

There would be more backlash against women if Hillary was elected. Not at the federal level, obviously, but at certain state and local level. Read Susan Faludi's book, "Backlash", about the 80s.

... "According to Faludi, the backlash is also a historical trend, generally recurring when it appears that women have made substantial gains in their efforts to obtain equal rights. "

And I actually think the trump win is part of this backlash. All around the world, countries are electing extremely conservative, anti-woman governments. Look at what has happened in Muslim countries over the past twenty years. As women gained rights and jobs, a significant part of the population started freaking out. I think we'll look back at this period in history as a backlash against the '80s and 90's freedoms.

Yes, I agree. I also think race relations got worse after Obama was elected. Same phenomenon.

It's like when the KKK rose up in the wake of Reconstruction.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please, people.
None of your rights will be taken away. NONE.
Calm down. The world is not burning, despite what the liberal media have predicted.

Agreed. You folks are acting paranoid as hell. Calm down.

-Dem

Tell this to states that have slowly, incrementally made it nearly impossible for women to get abortions.

Anonymous wrote:Is there anything women should go out and stock up on now, because it will be banned under Trump?

Any type of birth control that isn't contraceptive -- the pill, IUDs, implants.

It will take time for a Trump court to overturn Roe v Wade, of course, but they will try. And anyone who lives in a state that passes some "life begins at conception" law would necessarily outlaw abortifacient birth control.

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Anonymous wrote:I would guess people are mostly concerned about Trump appointing pro-life justices to the Supreme Court, and an eventual ruling banning abortion.

Did he ever say he wanted to ban all abortion? I know he is against late term abortion as are most people.

No, Trump was never against all abortions, or even against planned parenthood, or against birth control.
But there are enough Rs in the House and Senate that want nothing more than take women's reproductive rights away, and the new Supreme Court (once new judges get in) may make this all a reality.
No abortions, no birth control, defund Planned Parenthood- they have no check now and can push their agenda through.
Unless, enough Rs don't vote for all of that.

It's not Trump that'll usher in the Christian Sharia laws, it's the crazies who feel emboldened that their views are right that'll start trying to implement all the ancient laws from Deutronomy.

OP, I'm wondering if the anti Muslim hate couple with Christian white male dominance could lead to the banning of the hijab.

Like the Muslim women on the beaches of France this past summer who were ordered by the police to remove certain items of clothing.... I could see a ban on hijabs and burkas here.

As a woman, I don't want a government telling women what to wear, or not.

Ayep. Handmaid's Tale.

As a woman (and especially a white woman), you have only yourselves to blame. And the men most of you married.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's just not true. But okay - go ahead and believe that there won't be any backlash against women. Right.

There would be more backlash against women if Hillary was elected. Not at the federal level, obviously, but at certain state and local level. Read Susan Faludi's book, "Backlash", about the 80s.

... "According to Faludi, the backlash is also a historical trend, generally recurring when it appears that women have made substantial gains in their efforts to obtain equal rights. "

And I actually think the trump win is part of this backlash. All around the world, countries are electing extremely conservative, anti-woman governments. Look at what has happened in Muslim countries over the past twenty years. As women gained rights and jobs, a significant part of the population started freaking out. I think we'll look back at this period in history as a backlash against the '80s and 90's freedoms.

Yes, I agree. I also think race relations got worse after Obama was elected. Same phenomenon.

OP, the majority of woman voted for Trump. Please go away.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's just not true. But okay - go ahead and believe that there won't be any backlash against women. Right.

There would be more backlash against women if Hillary was elected. Not at the federal level, obviously, but at certain state and local level. Read Susan Faludi's book, "Backlash", about the 80s.

... "According to Faludi, the backlash is also a historical trend, generally recurring when it appears that women have made substantial gains in their efforts to obtain equal rights. "

And I actually think the trump win is part of this backlash. All around the world, countries are electing extremely conservative, anti-woman governments. Look at what has happened in Muslim countries over the past twenty years. As women gained rights and jobs, a significant part of the population started freaking out. I think we'll look back at this period in history as a backlash against the '80s and 90's freedoms.

Anonymous wrote:That's just not true. But okay - go ahead and believe that there won't be any backlash against women. Right.

There would be more backlash against women if Hillary was elected. Not at the federal level, obviously, but at certain state and local level. Read Susan Faludi's book, "Backlash", about the 80s.

... "According to Faludi, the backlash is also a historical trend, generally recurring when it appears that women have made substantial gains in their efforts to obtain equal rights. "

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Anonymous wrote:None. Absolutely none. The over-the-top end of the world nonesense is much more dangerous. Trump would never have been my choice. But he isn't going to destroy the country. His ego alone may make him a decent President. 2020 will be here in four short years. Hopefully the Democratic Party had learned that you can't just shove an unelectable candidate down the throats of voters and hope it gets better.[u]

Sigh, I hope they learned something.

shut the fuck up, hillary won the popular vote!

Grabbing this from another thread:

Barely. Looks like by a margin of 150,000.

Obama got 10,000,000 more votes than McCain. Bush trounced Kerry by 3,000,000. Al Gore got 500,000 more votes than Bush.

WHY WAS THIS EVEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF CLOSE?!

How does someone who has 20 years of electoral experience over a candidate of ZERO, someone with more political money than god, someone with the best (and to be honest even more popular than her) surrogates ever, loose so badly?

This was a ridiculous shitshow of a candidacy. Biden would have trounced that orange.

Unfortunately for the Democrats, the Clintons wouldn't let Biden run.