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Anonymous wrote:OK poster, ask who? And how exactly would Hardy feeders have supported Hyde's efforts? Keep your grubby paws off of what is "mine" is the order of the day it seems, at least for you.

FFS! There is a Hardy feeder school group made up of PTA/PTO types that I participate on! that seemed like a decent starting point of a place to ask for help and support.

Awesome! And what exactly would y'all have done to help????

I can't tell if you're being facetious or if H-A is playing dumb or what. Just off the top of my head I think one way the other feeder elementaries could've helped is if you guys had reached out to explain that Ellington Field was a possible swing location and the one that the school community preferred. You could have explained how it would work and made the pitch that keeping H-A in the neighborhood helps Hardy (more IB families), etc. Had you gotten all the parent Association's at the feeders to write letters supporting the Ellington Field plan, collectively that could've been a good counter argument to the Burleith association. But we weren't looped in until we read in the neighborhood paper that one plan was to invade the Hardy campus, taking up every inch of space, inside and out. That was a shitty way to find out about a plan we were never going to accept. You could still try to come up with a neighborhood plan and ask feeders to support it, but it is admittedly harder now that everyone's feeling a little burned. But so long as you don't try to undercut our efforts at Hardy I'd personally be happy to lend support of a swing plan for H-A that it's community supports.

Anonymous wrote:No, not at all. This person is saying the Hyde-Addison principal opposes it.

Principal Pride has clearly stated she cannot and will not comment on (or take a position on) Fillmore in her current role. She does mention very fondly that her own children went to Fillmore and she still has their art from it!

Sorry, was a little confused since the person also said that Principal Pride wants to use the space that Fillmore is occupying for her growing school. That made it sound like Hardy wants Fillmore to vacate Hardy but perhaps that is not Principal Pride, maybe Hardy parents? I really do love the Fillmore program.

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Anonymous wrote:OK poster, ask who? And how exactly would Hardy feeders have supported Hyde's efforts? Keep your grubby paws off of what is "mine" is the order of the day it seems, at least for you.

FFS! There is a Hardy feeder school group made up of PTA/PTO types that I participate on! that seemed like a decent starting point of a place to ask for help and support.

Awesome! And what exactly would y'all have done to help????

No, not at all. This person is saying the Hyde-Addison principal opposes it.

Principal Pride has clearly stated she cannot and will not comment on (or take a position on) Fillmore in her current role. She does mention very fondly that her own children went to Fillmore and she still has their art from it!

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Anonymous wrote:Actually Hyde going to Hardy doesn't necessarily affect whether Fillmore closes or not. They could put Fillmore at Ellington, or put more trailers for Hyde at Hardy. The real challenge for Fillmore is (and always has been) the fact the DCPS is determined to close the program. Their recent "bus contract" switch that effectively cut the program time doesn't bode well for any of us who love Fillmore.

just put trailors on the already tiny amount of field space Hardy has now? "Just" move Fillmore to Ellington (no possibility of this has ever been discussed and they'd have to build this etc). Nice entitled Hyde parent... this is so bogus and the type of attitude that is engendering the cross school hostility. Neither Mitch nor Lafayette came gunning against their fellow feeder schools over their renovations.

What do they have to build? They have a 600 person capacity space designed for arts education that is unoccupied half the day over at ellington. Why not discuss it? This isn't about gunning against anyone. Talk about it. Work it out. And Fillmore is definitely in trouble if it loses one of the schools it serves.

The H-A principal does not like or value Fillmore. She has been clear about that. H-A will have in-house art and music after its renovation. That's already part of the plans so trying to scare Hardy feeders into lobbying for allowing H-A at Hardy won't work. You guys are leaving Fillmore regardless. When Fillmore does leave Hardy, Trish Pride will need the vacated space for her growing middle school.

wait -- is Principal Pride opposing Fillmore?

Anonymous wrote:I think Hardy and it's feeders have to keep a close eye on this issue because while the Mayor publicly said that the decision for H-A to swing at Meyer is final, Jack Evans could still raise it with the Council. The Mayor said the decision is final at a recent Citizens Association of Georgetown meeting. She said she didn't think that disrupting two school communities was a good idea and also acknowledged that even within the H-A community the stance against Meyer is NOT unanimous (prob because they are majority OOB and Meyer isn't that much of a trip). But now that our school is aware is what H-A tried to do to Hardy we aren't going to take our eyes off this.

For those who are closer to it - please make keep the E & KM feeders to Hardy posted - (Eaton - future feeder). Principal Pride had said it was completely off the table so it hasn't been on the radar screen for us at all. There are many of us who are seriously committed to Hardy. That included keeping Hardy Hardy as Pride had said (and not taking away the already limited green and field space with trailers!!!! What an incredibly awful idea!)

DCPS has never given a hoot what parents think. Back in the day, Hyde (minus Addison) not only never managed to push through any renovations or new additions, it actually faced closure, not once but numerous times. It still remains a majority OOB school and that is unlikely to ever change. OOB kids probably will be far less affected by the swing and some may find it more convenient. OOB parents are usually grateful at having gotten their kid(s) in to a "good" school and rarely rock the boat. H-A parents should be grateful they are getting such an upgrade. A local swing option would have been ideal but not at the cost of squeezing Hardy, a school with its own set of problems. As for Fillmore, it would be crazy for H-A to not fight for keeping it seeing as the individual schools will never be able to replicate such depth, diversity and quality of instruction. There is a long, long history here that some may want to investigate before discarding a proven program in the hopes that DCPS will offer them something equally good or better. DCPS taketh away much more than giveth. The mantra should be to never abandon something that works until that better thing is already tested and up and running.

I think Hardy and it's feeders have to keep a close eye on this issue because while the Mayor publicly said that the decision for H-A to swing at Meyer is final, Jack Evans could still raise it with the Council. The Mayor said the decision is final at a recent Citizens Association of Georgetown meeting. She said she didn't think that disrupting two school communities was a good idea and also acknowledged that even within the H-A community the stance against Meyer is NOT unanimous (prob because they are majority OOB and Meyer isn't that much of a trip). But now that our school is aware is what H-A tried to do to Hardy we aren't going to take our eyes off this.

So if this is rehashing the aftermath - sounds like it's time to move on...

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Anonymous wrote:Actually Hyde going to Hardy doesn't necessarily affect whether Fillmore closes or not. They could put Fillmore at Ellington, or put more trailers for Hyde at Hardy. The real challenge for Fillmore is (and always has been) the fact the DCPS is determined to close the program. Their recent "bus contract" switch that effectively cut the program time doesn't bode well for any of us who love Fillmore.

just put trailors on the already tiny amount of field space Hardy has now? "Just" move Fillmore to Ellington (no possibility of this has ever been discussed and they'd have to build this etc). Nice entitled Hyde parent... this is so bogus and the type of attitude that is engendering the cross school hostility. Neither Mitch nor Lafayette came gunning against their fellow feeder schools over their renovations.

What do they have to build? They have a 600 person capacity space designed for arts education that is unoccupied half the day over at ellington. Why not discuss it? This isn't about gunning against anyone. Talk about it. Work it out. And Fillmore is definitely in trouble if it loses one of the schools it serves.

The H-A principal does not like or value Fillmore. She has been clear about that. H-A will have in-house art and music after its renovation. That's already part of the plans so trying to scare Hardy feeders into lobbying for allowing H-A at Hardy won't work. You guys are leaving Fillmore regardless. When Fillmore does leave Hardy, Trish Pride will need the vacated space for her growing middle school.

Anonymous wrote:OK poster, ask who? And how exactly would Hardy feeders have supported Hyde's efforts? Keep your grubby paws off of what is "mine" is the order of the day it seems, at least for you.

FFS! There is a Hardy feeder school group made up of PTA/PTO types that I participate on! that seemed like a decent starting point of a place to ask for help and support.

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Anonymous wrote:So let me get this straight, the Hardy Community (who has been so desperately trying to build a better school through cultivation of in-bound feeder kids) would rather decimate one of those feeder schools and reap the consequences of what will likely be a majority OOB Meyer-located Hyde for years to come because they feel slighted. Makes sense.

OR you could have shown us a little mercy, and we might have considered sending our kids to Hardy.

Um, so feeder school wants to decimate Hardy ruining the pathway for all of us ..... seriously. Esp the the feeder with 60% OOB?

Still can't tell from this tread if this is still a proposal on the table or just still hashing the aftermath? If still on the table, the parents still trying to save Fillmore will be up doubly up at arms.

It's just rehashing the aftermath. H-A swinging at Hardy is off the table. Will not happen. Meyer is a decision but H-A is unwilling to accept it.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty rich that some of you are telling Hyde parents to suck it up when Burleith fought to delay getting redistricted to Hyde until after the construction. Apparently what is good enough for Hyde kids wasn't good enough for theirs. And Murch got 8.9 million for their space up at UDC. Likewise Lafayette. Who exactly is entitled? As for Marie Reed, the route you get bused on doesn't take 40 minutes. That is how much time DCPS found the route from Hyde to Meyer could take.

I there are so few kids who live in Burleith that this is a non issue really and the ones who are there would much rather go to stoddert where we can walk anyway!

Sure, but DC has decided to redistrict Burleith to Hyde. Once that happens Stoddert is not an option for Burleith, unless you lottery in.

Wait this is circular - the parents either wanted to wait to get refined for Hyde until after the renovations (which Jones did - never wanting to be resigned) or and had some crazy scheme to delay fighting the trailors on the Ellington field just to force the move to use the Meyer space (which they did not. The Burleith citizens group had bee fighting since day one and few to none have kids!!)

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Anonymous wrote:Actually Hyde going to Hardy doesn't necessarily affect whether Fillmore closes or not. They could put Fillmore at Ellington, or put more trailers for Hyde at Hardy. The real challenge for Fillmore is (and always has been) the fact the DCPS is determined to close the program. Their recent "bus contract" switch that effectively cut the program time doesn't bode well for any of us who love Fillmore.

just put trailors on the already tiny amount of field space Hardy has now? "Just" move Fillmore to Ellington (no possibility of this has ever been discussed and they'd have to build this etc). Nice entitled Hyde parent... this is so bogus and the type of attitude that is engendering the cross school hostility. Neither Mitch nor Lafayette came gunning against their fellow feeder schools over their renovations.

What do they have to build? They have a 600 person capacity space designed for arts education that is unoccupied half the day over at ellington. Why not discuss it? This isn't about gunning against anyone. Talk about it. Work it out. And Fillmore is definitely in trouble if it loses one of the schools it serves.

Anonymous wrote:Actually Hyde going to Hardy doesn't necessarily affect whether Fillmore closes or not. They could put Fillmore at Ellington, or put more trailers for Hyde at Hardy. The real challenge for Fillmore is (and always has been) the fact the DCPS is determined to close the program. Their recent "bus contract" switch that effectively cut the program time doesn't bode well for any of us who love Fillmore.

just put trailors on the already tiny amount of field space Hardy has now? "Just" move Fillmore to Ellington (no possibility of this has ever been discussed and they'd have to build this etc). Nice entitled Hyde parent... this is so bogus and the type of attitude that is engendering the cross school hostility. Neither Mitch nor Lafayette came gunning against their fellow feeder schools over their renovations.