Anonymous
Post 10/09/2016 11:22     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.


Massively oversimplified. There are many, many "haves" in the eastern part of the county who don't like the culture of affluenza and competitive child-rearing so common in Bethesda.


Yes, but I bet their kids are going to private schools. Not to any of the middle schools mentioned earlier.


Then who do you think all these kids in our high schools are? Blair, Einstein, even Wheaton High School are not majority FARMS. If "everybody" goes private then where are all these kids coming from? Unless your definition of "haves" is the 1% (which would be nuts).
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2016 10:25     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.


Massively oversimplified. There are many, many "haves" in the eastern part of the county who don't like the culture of affluenza and competitive child-rearing so common in Bethesda.


This.

I wish people would realize that some of us in east and mid-county made a conscious choice NOT to live in the western portion of the county...and it's really okay.


Agree. And no one moves to Howard county for schools - unless they get a job in Baltimore. I have lived in this area a long time and no one says hmmm I want better schools and I'm sure we won't mind adding 3 hours a day to our commute. MAYBE those who commute to Montgomery county but the commute from DC to Howard county is no small factor for most.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2016 09:57     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.


Massively oversimplified. There are many, many "haves" in the eastern part of the county who don't like the culture of affluenza and competitive child-rearing so common in Bethesda.


Yes, but I bet their kids are going to private schools. Not to any of the middle schools mentioned earlier.


No - we send our kids to DCC middle and high schools with decent FARMs rates and where our children are not in the majority (there is no majority race). I am a new poster and I also choose to live in the DCC on purpose to avoid the entitlement and competitive parenting and materialistic/vapid environment. It is fine and there are a lot of us involved in the schools. Same background of parent (or possibly even more education ironically) than everyone in the W and BCC districts, just different choice as to where to live.

In other words, it is a choice and we (the PPs and myself) choose to live here on purpose with our kids' development in mind.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2016 20:32     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.


Massively oversimplified. There are many, many "haves" in the eastern part of the county who don't like the culture of affluenza and competitive child-rearing so common in Bethesda.


Yes, but I bet their kids are going to private schools. Not to any of the middle schools mentioned earlier.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2016 20:28     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.


Massively oversimplified. There are many, many "haves" in the eastern part of the county who don't like the culture of affluenza and competitive child-rearing so common in Bethesda.


This.

I wish people would realize that some of us in east and mid-county made a conscious choice NOT to live in the western portion of the county...and it's really okay.


Exactly, I preferred to have my kids grow up in a diverse area.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2016 20:01     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.


Massively oversimplified. There are many, many "haves" in the eastern part of the county who don't like the culture of affluenza and competitive child-rearing so common in Bethesda.


This.

I wish people would realize that some of us in east and mid-county made a conscious choice NOT to live in the western portion of the county...and it's really okay.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2016 10:54     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.


Massively oversimplified. There are many, many "haves" in the eastern part of the county who don't like the culture of affluenza and competitive child-rearing so common in Bethesda.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2016 10:41     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Move to a condo or rental apartment in her friends' school catchment.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2016 16:03     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.


We live in the east, and chose a solid but low ranked elementary school with access to a stronger middle school. For the record, the middle school is great and the kids coming from our solid but low ranked elementary school do well there. We've also not dealt with anything significant in terms of behavioral problems and what we have seen has been about 50/50 split between special snowflake middle class white kids who are just "misunderstood" and low income Black/Lantinx kids picking up bad habits from television. The west of the county is not the only place with strong educational options, nor is the east the only place where kids sometimes act out.

The broader point, though, is that a lot of folks on the real estate board talk about elementary school as if that's the be all and end all of their child's education. I don't know if they just aren't thinking ahead, or if they are assuming they will "level up" into a different home by middle school.


Agreed, 100%.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2016 10:03     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.


We live in the east, and chose a solid but low ranked elementary school with access to a stronger middle school. For the record, the middle school is great and the kids coming from our solid but low ranked elementary school do well there. We've also not dealt with anything significant in terms of behavioral problems and what we have seen has been about 50/50 split between special snowflake middle class white kids who are just "misunderstood" and low income Black/Lantinx kids picking up bad habits from television. The west of the county is not the only place with strong educational options, nor is the east the only place where kids sometimes act out.

The broader point, though, is that a lot of folks on the real estate board talk about elementary school as if that's the be all and end all of their child's education. I don't know if they just aren't thinking ahead, or if they are assuming they will "level up" into a different home by middle school.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2016 10:00     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's see.
1. Can't be Banneker--the activity bus just started this week.
2. Can't be Briggs Chaney--the announcements on 9/30 mentioned the following: step team, musical, flag football, the school newspaper club, and cheer tryouts.
3.Can't be Farquhar--they have over 10 clubs listed on their activities page.
4. Can't be White Oak--their posted announcements this week mentioned the drama club, flag football, the Spanish choir, as well as the creative writing group.
5. Can't be Key--their principal tweeted about the new leaders of their Eagle Environmental Club, as well as the members of Girls on the Run.


Sooo...OP...what school? Seems like all the NEC feeder middle schools have multiple activities.


Thank you PP! I'm definitely calling troll on this one now!

I tried to tell you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Textbook troll, probably all the co-signing was sock puppeting.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2016 09:54     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.


Easy for you to say. Not everyone can afford the good school districts or private. That is the sadly the problem that many motivated families with a lower income face in this county. The Haves live on the west, the have nots live on the east. And those lucky ones in the east with $$$ will move to Howard County or send their kids to private. What do the rest of us do? In all honesty - the issue is the behavioral problems that the east school face. They need to take these kids out and send them to a remedial school like they used to have back in the 70's/80's. Win-win for everyone.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2016 07:50     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
This is also a pretty good "lesson learned" and warning to anyone who is making real estate decisions based only on elementary schools. If you don't like your middle and high school options, that's almost a bigger deal than K-5, where you have a lot more control over your kid's peers and where the education is fairly standardized.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2016 06:48     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
Anonymous wrote:I posted what's happening at the schools. I truly empathize with the OP, but it seems like what's really happening at the school in question is not in line with what she shared.

There are a TON of outside activities that your DD can participate in. Since soccer was one you were interested in...and it seems like Farquhar is where some of OP's friends ended up, why not look into sports offered by OBGC?


Soccer is offered at the schools mentioned in the spring.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2016 05:45     Subject: The problem with low SES middle schools -unfair!
I posted what's happening at the schools. I truly empathize with the OP, but it seems like what's really happening at the school in question is not in line with what she shared.

There are a TON of outside activities that your DD can participate in. Since soccer was one you were interested in...and it seems like Farquhar is where some of OP's friends ended up, why not look into sports offered by OBGC?